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Why is the National Cathedral Episcopalian?

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St. Augustine of Canterbury is a Catholic Saint who brought Christianity to England.
Yup. Although Henry and Elizabeth WERE as brutal as Hitler and Stalin.
 
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What? So she isn’t a lesbian but has open relationship?

Ugh
Sounds like it was a 3 way relationship, so at least half lesbian and definitely morally corrupt. Not sure if she's still in that situationship. Ben only said that at one point this is how she was living.
 
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Sounds like it was a 3 way relationship, so at least half lesbian and definitely morally corrupt. Not sure if she's still in that situationship. Ben only said that at one point this is how she was living.
Well….i don’t know if she thinks anything is sinful about that.

Who knows?
 
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St. Augustine of Canterbury is a Catholic Saint who brought Christianity to England.
Yes, but he died in the 600s AD; the Church of England didn't come around for another 900 years. I realize my blanket statement made it seem as if I was including him, but I wasn't. There was no way that Augustine could have been in cahoots with King Hank.
 
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Yes, but he died in the 600s AD; the Church of England didn't come around for another 900 years. I realize my blanket statement made it seem as if I was including him, but I wasn't. There was no way that Augustine could have been in cahoots with King Hank.
Amen
 
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GAFCON still exists. It's an uncomfortable agglomeration of conservative and semi-conservative high and low and middle church Anglicans that kind of want to stay Anglican but don't fit in the regnant status quo at all. I thought they had departed TEC but honestly I'm not sure. I call it an uncomfortable agglomeration because some are just fine with women ministers while others are dead set against that. Some are rather evangelical in leaning while others lean a bit anglocatholic. I don't see what glues them together in the long run. I honestly suspect GAFCON will split into smaller groups soon enough. Too bad, because for a while I thought they could bring it together as the successor to TEC.
They've departed the Episcopal Church. The whole point of GAFCON (Global Fellowship of Confessing Anglicans) as I understand it is that it's a collection of former Episcopal/Anglican churches who didn't like the direction of the Episcopal/Anglican Church so they left. So if you're in GAFCON, you're not in the Anglican Communion.

There do seem to be a decent number of them, though--they have about 40 million members worldwide (note that all numbers I am going to give are taken from Wikipedia). For comparison, the Anglican Communion itself has 85 million. So that puts it a little less than half the size of the Anglican Communion.

However, they don't have that big of a presence in North America, and are mostly in Africa. There are only 122,000 members in Canada, Mexico, and the United States combined. In contrast, there are 1 million in Rwanda, 5 million in Kenya, 11 million in Uganda, and 18 million in Nigeria.
 
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They've departed the Episcopal Church. The whole point of GAFCON (Global Fellowship of Confessing Anglicans) as I understand it is that it's a collection of former Episcopal/Anglican churches who didn't like the direction of the Episcopal/Anglican Church so they left. So if you're in GAFCON, you're not in the Anglican Communion.

There do seem to be a decent number of them, though--they have about 40 million members worldwide (note that all numbers I am going to give are taken from Wikipedia). For comparison, the Anglican Communion itself has 85 million. So that puts it a little less than half the size of the Anglican Communion.

However, they don't have that big of a presence in North America, and are mostly in Africa. There are only 122,000 members in Canada, Mexico, and the United States combined. In contrast, there are 1 million in Rwanda, 5 million in Kenya, 11 million in Uganda, and 18 million in Nigeria.
Ah, I see. There is the Anglican Church in North America (ACNA) which has conservative views on marriage, and abortion; yet it ordains women to the priesthood BUT NOT to the episcopacy.

They are relatively small.

 
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They've departed the Episcopal Church. The whole point of GAFCON (Global Fellowship of Confessing Anglicans) as I understand it is that it's a collection of former Episcopal/Anglican churches who didn't like the direction of the Episcopal/Anglican Church so they left. So if you're in GAFCON, you're not in the Anglican Communion.

There do seem to be a decent number of them, though--they have about 40 million members worldwide (note that all numbers I am going to give are taken from Wikipedia). For comparison, the Anglican Communion itself has 85 million. So that puts it a little less than half the size of the Anglican Communion.

However, they don't have that big of a presence in North America, and are mostly in Africa. There are only 122,000 members in Canada, Mexico, and the United States combined. In contrast, there are 1 million in Rwanda, 5 million in Kenya, 11 million in Uganda, and 18 million in Nigeria.

The relationship is a little more complicated. A number of GAFCON-affiliated churches are still in the Anglican Communion, particularly (as you mention) in Africa. The Church of Nigeria, the Church of Uganda, the Anglican Church of Rwanda, and the Anglican Church of Kenya, for example, are all in the Anglican Communion.

In some other places (for example, the US, Brazil, and New Zealand), the GAFCON affiliates have broken away from the national Anglican church in their country and are thus no longer part of the Anglican Communion.

Sources: My own memory (I've been watching this closely), plus Global Anglican Future Conference - Wikipedia and Church of Nigeria - Wikipedia .
 
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The relationship is a little more complicated. A number of GAFCON-affiliated churches are still in the Anglican Communion, particularly (as you mention) in Africa. The Church of Nigeria, the Church of Uganda, the Anglican Church of Rwanda, and the Anglican Church of Kenya, for example, are all in the Anglican Communion.

In some other places (for example, the US, Brazil, and New Zealand), the GAFCON affiliates have broken away from the national Anglican church in their country and are thus no longer part of the Anglican Communion.

Sources: My own memory (I've been watching this closely), plus Global Anglican Future Conference - Wikipedia and Church of Nigeria - Wikipedia .
Thanks for the info! It’s appreciated

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