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The Democratic Mayor who refused to show care

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And that was money she cut from the fire department! Had i lost my house i would be upset too!
All while the city is massively in debt.

Why did the mayor of L.A. feel the need to go to Africa?
 
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All while the city is massively in debt.

Why did the mayor of L.A. feel the need to go to Africa?
She was part of the US delegation to the new President of Ghana's inauguration, so her trip was probably funded by federal money.
 
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I'm led to believe that SkyNews has a particular leaning and "reputation", and based on some of the questions.

They seem to be the "when did you stop beating your wife?" type of questions, where there's no good answer, and the whole point of the question is to make the recipient look bad (rather than being sincere inquiry) regardless of their answer, or whether or not they answer.

“Do you owe citizens an apology for being absent while their homes were burning?" Blevins asked on an airport jetway.
"Do you regret cutting the fire department budget by millions of dollars, Madam Mayor?” the reporter pressed.
"Elon Musk says that you're utterly incompetent — are you considering your position?"
"No apology for them? Do you think you should have been visiting Ghana when this was unfolding back home?"


Disclaimer: I'm not a fan of Mayor Karen Bass, I think she's the latest in a long line of Mayors who've all had a hand in allowing a once-awesome city to turn into a "not so awesome" place.

But fair is fair, these loaded questions hardly represent honest journalism.


Just a particular point of reference.
A $17 million dollar re-allocation from a near billion-dollar Fire Dept budget has nothing do with the ability (or inability) to contain one of the largest fire outbreaks in US history. Is this journalist honestly trying to suggest that at 1.2% budget cut was the "difference maker" here?

Captiva & Sanibel Florida cut their Fire department's budget by 43% in 2023.
Tallahassee FL did a Fire Dept cut that was of equal proportion to the LA cut back in 2022.

Was SkyNews on the ground in those locations immediately following the hurricane to grill city & state officials about "Do you regret these cuts that could've contributed to operational deficiencies during this natural disaster?" Or does SkyNews reserve that sort of "aggressive loaded question" journalism only for leaders of high-profile blue cities?

In April 2023, during the unprecedented flooding emergency in Fort Lauderdale, Governor DeSantis was in Ohio for a book tour... did Sky give him any flak for that?
 
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She was part of the US delegation to the new President of Ghana's inauguration, so her trip was probably funded by federal money.
Why go when the Federal Government is in massive debt?
 
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Why go when the Federal Government is in massive debt?
You think that US politicians should not leave the country on diplomatic duties as long as the country is in debt?
 
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You think that US politicians should not leave the country on diplomatic duties as long as the country is in debt?
No expense is too great to attend the inauguration of the President of ... what?... oh yeah, Ghana.

Dem don swear John Mahama in as Ghana president


Dem don swear President John Dramani Mahama into office for one colourful ceremony wey occur for di Black Star Square for di kontri capital, Accra.

Di swearing-in dey happun afta im strong victory for last month presidential elections.

Also for di first time for di history of Ghana, di kontri don get female Vice President, Professor Jane Naana Opoku Agyemang.
Earlier on Tuesday, dem swear in new Members of Parliament and di speaker.

Mahama bin serve as President of Ghana bifor from 2012 to 2017.

Twenty one heads of state including Nigeria President and Chair of ECOWAS Bola Tinubu dey dia to witness di event.

Mahama dey enta office for time wey Ghana dey recover from dia worst economic crisis inside one generation.

Expectations dey high, but Oga Mahama don promise to turn di economy around.

For di election, di opposition National Democratic Congress (NDC) win 56.55% of di vote while di New Patriotic Party get 41.61%.

Dis na election wey di opposition bin win by almost 1.7 million votes.
 
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You think that US politicians should not leave the country on diplomatic duties as long as the country is in debt?
The mayor of L.A. is a diplomat? Since when?

Don't we already have Ambassadors for Ghana?

And people tend not to travel when they have no money.
 
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The mayor of L.A. is a diplomat? Since when?
She led the comittee for african foreign affairs from 2019 to 2022.
Don't we already have Ambassadors for Ghana?
That was another member of the delegation.

 
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She led the comittee for african foreign affairs from 2019 to 2022.
So she is not a diplomat anymore - right?

She has a new job - right?
That was another member of the delegation.

So - again - why did she go to Africa?
 
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So she is not a diplomat anymore - right?

She has a new job - right?

So - again - why did she go to Africa?
Your question has been answered often enough that it's only on you if you still don't understand it, in case you aren't just faking your confusion and are posting in bad faith.
 
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Your question has been answered often enough that it's only on you if you still don't understand it, in case you aren't just faking your confusion and are posting in bad faith.
If she had access to Obama’s Time Machine she could have known about the wildfires that were about to spring up whilst she was lallygagging on her junket.
 
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So she is not a diplomat anymore - right?

People who aren't official diplomats are often included in presidential delegations, particularly for significant international or ceremonial events. These individuals are often selected because of their expertise, connection to the event, or ability to represent the United States in a meaningful way.


George W Bush would often send James Baker, after he was no longer in the official role, on delegations due to the track record he'd built with certain world leaders back when he was secretary of state.

There's plenty of things to bash Bass about (and I have), but this isn't one of those things.

I mean, Trump just sent his son and Charlie Kirk over to Greenland, did he not?
 
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Your question has been answered often enough that it's only on you if you still don't understand it, in case you aren't just faking your confusion and are posting in bad faith.
When I get a new job - I don't go moonlighting to my old one on someone else's dime while my new place of work burns.
 
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People who aren't official diplomats are often included in presidential delegations, particularly for significant international or ceremonial events. These individuals are often selected because of their expertise, connection to the event, or ability to represent the United States in a meaningful way.


George W Bush would often send James Baker, after he was no longer in the official role, on delegations due to the track record he'd built with certain world leaders back when he was secretary of state.

There's plenty of things to bash Bass about (and I have), but this isn't one of those things.

I mean, Trump just sent his son and Charlie Kirk over to Greenland, did he not?
Were James Baker, Trump Jr or Charlie Kirk supposed to be running one of the largest cities in the nation at the time they were sent overseas?
 
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When I get a new job - I don't go moonlighting to my old one on someone else's dime while my new place of work burns.
I'm looking forward to your relentless criticism of President Trump when he spends a quarter of his second term on the golf course.
 
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Were James Baker, Trump Jr or Charlie Kirk supposed to be running one of the largest cities in the nation at the time they were sent overseas?
No, but that has very little to do with the situation.

It's not as if she's going to add any value by physically being in the city vs communicating with people remotely. It's not like it's the mayor typically the out there with the hose and ladder fighting the fires.


Like I said, there's plenty to criticize her for in terms of how things have gone in the city in terms of policies. "Not being physically present in the city when a fire breaks out" isn't one of them.

That'd be like criticizing Bush because he was in a school doing story time with children when the planes struck the towers.
 
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It's not as if she's going to add any value by physically being in the city vs communicating with people remotely.
Effective leadership, cares to be in person, to those they are leading. Ineffective leadership does not. Effective leadership knows that their very physical presence is a strong comfort, a strong motivation, a strong stabilizing force. Ineffective leadership knows none of these things, and it may very well be, is none of these things.
 
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