Biden to start WW3?? Biden allowing Kyiv to use long-range weapons against Russia!

ozso said:

So Biden is supposed to tell the presidents of other countries what they can and can't do?

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wing2000 said:

The US government has a long history of providing arms with conditions....this certainly is not new.

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ozso said:

Yes, but it's not one president's job to tell another president what they can or can't do with what's already in their possession.

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John G. said:

This war is America's doing, not Russia's.
The USA invaded Iraq. Its actions cost the lives of 1,300,000 people, destabilised the country, caused the persecution of Iraq's Christian minority.
The USA went back on its agreement with Russia and helped the destabilisation of Yugoslavia.
It proceeded to demonise the Serbs who tried to hold their country together (who's on your $5 bill?) and "bomb the s**t out of them" (US government official's quote)
It handed the historically Serbian province of Kosovo to UCK terrorists.
It destabilised Libya and Syria causing civil wars and a mad invasion of refugees into Europe.
It encouraged a violent coup d' etat against the democratically-elected government of Ukraine which resulted in persecution and deaths in Donbas and Lugansk.
It went back on its agreement with Russia and expanded into Eastern Europe including the three Baltic Republics.
Finally, the USA and its NATO lackeys threatened to go into Ukraine.

With a track record like that, would you say V.Putin was wrong to defend Russia as a matter of national security???

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wing2000 said:

Okay, but many presidents (and Congress) have done just that.

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Yeshua HaDerekh said:

He never did anything under Trump. All these liberal proxy wars are getting tiresome and Biden is making things much worse...

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SimplyMe said:

That is quite a string of Russian propaganda there. Though I will agree with a few things, such as the US invasion of Iraq (in 2003), which I have stated from the beginning was a bad idea.

OTOH, there was never an agreement between the US and Russia (actually the Soviet Union, prior to Russia being a country) to not expand NATO -- it was floated by the US delegation but seemed to be something the USSR did not care about and ended being dropped, not ever really discussed and was not in the final agreement.

There was no violent "coup d' etat" against the government, instead Ukraine's Parliament voted to impeach the President after the President had fled to Russia for sanctuary knowing he would be impeached and arrested (for various crimes, largely corruption charges). It is also worth noting that he was elected to create closer ties, including an agreement with the EU, but instead rejected the EU agreement he was voted to make and was going to create a treaty with Russia -- so it is understandable why those who elected him might have protested (with the President ordering his troops to shoot protesters causing much of the violent behavior).

That somehow the US "forced" the invasion of Ukraine is pure Russian propaganda. Russia invaded Ukraine because they view Ukraine as part of "Imperial Russia" (along with other Eastern European countries that fear they may be invaded after Ukraine) and want their ports and agriculture to "Make Russia Great Again," it has nothing to do with the US, that is just a convenient excuse.

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Yeshua HaDerekh said:

those are YOUR assumptions, not mine

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ozso said:

I know, because the US government thinks that it's in charge of the world. And the world uses that to make the US their cash cow.

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