On America's Bill of Rights

• First Amendment [Religion, Speech, Press, Assembly, Petition (1791)] (see explanation)
• Second Amendment [Right to Bear Arms (1791)] (see explanation)
• Third Amendment [Quartering of Troops (1791)] (see explanation)
• Fourth Amendment [Search and Seizure (1791)] (see explanation)
• Fifth Amendment [Grand Jury, Double Jeopardy, Self-Incrimination, Due Process (1791)] (see explanation)
• Sixth Amendment [Criminal Prosecutions - Jury Trial, Right to Confront and to Counsel (1791)] (see explanation)
• Seventh Amendment [Common Law Suits - Jury Trial (1791)] (see explanation)
• Eighth Amendment [Excess Bail or Fines, Cruel and Unusual Punishment (1791)] (see explanation)
• Ninth Amendment [Non-Enumerated Rights (1791)] (see explanation)
• Tenth Amendment [Rights Reserved to States or People (1791)] (see explanation)

There seems to be a lot of hoo-ah about some of the rights that citizens have
under the American fair rule of law.

Some politicians have made MUCH of their "right" to say anything they want,
even if it can be demonstrated that they do not believe what they are saying,
or even if it can be demonstrated that they are continually lying (changing their
personal "opinions" in contradictory ways, in order to make different impressions
on different crowds.

Some politicians are claiming that they can say ANYTHING, AND have full
immunity for everything they say.

Some politicians emphasize freedom of speech, WHEN THEY SPEAK, however
wish to curtail the right of journalists to speak opinions that are contrary to a
politician's assertions. Arbitrarily granted freedom of speech, is not really what
the American right of freedom of speech is all about.

Also, no matter how much a politician may dislike journalists doing fact-checking
on his/her speeches, journalists have a right to do fact checking, and publish
their results.

The appeal to one specific right, in order to destroy another right, is probably
something that American courts will find to be Unconstitutional.

"The advocacy of illegal action is a category of speech not protected by the First Amendment. It is also sometimes referred to as the advocacy of illegal conduct."

Yes, you can TRY to use speech to raise a crowd, to lynch your political
(or other) opponents, but this sort of speech is not protected under the
fair rule of law in America.

An example of Americans who are appealing for complete immunity from
prosecution, for what they say, is an RFK Junior group that is anti-vaccine.

The Supreme Court has rejected an attempt by an anti-vaccine group, to
claim complete immunity for the physicians in the group speaking opinions
about American vaccines -- opinions that do not match the scientific
research.

Although these physicians are free to say anything they want, or believe, they
are also responsible to reflect the large body of scientific data that indicates
that these vaccines are effective and safe, for the purposes for which they
were designed. That is one of the duties, of professionals.

When people who are supposed to be technical experts in an area of knowledge,
misrepresent the best scientific research in that area, THEN they are subject to
prosecution under the fair rule of law in America. Freedom of speech, as a right,
is accompanied by RESPONSIBILITY for what one chooses to say.

linux.poet said:

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From the Christian Philosophy and Ethics SOP:


This thread looks like it's discussing politics, which the General Politics forum is more suited for:



Therefore, this thread has been moved from Christian Philosophy and Ethics to General Politics.

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Not everything is politics (regardless of what the politicians think).

As for freedom of speech, as I have mentioned before many times,
CHRISTIANS are morally-ethically bound to bear true witness about our
shared reality. Bearing false witness about our shared reality, is called LYING,
and the Bible asserts that there are very serious and just results for those
who will not turn from their LYING. (Philosophically, Christians always have
freedom of speech, but we temper this ability with prudence, about what
should be said.)

The corollary in the American Bill of Rights, is that we have "freedom of speech",
but this does not give us immunity from prosecution for what we speak. It is the
same with God's law.

There are many corollaries between the American Consitutional rights, and the
Judeo-Christian moral-ethical system, even if this site considers all discussion
of the fair rule of law in America, to be POLITICAL only.

In all my posts in the "current event" section, I try to make clear connections
between Christian morality-ethics, or the impact that certain current events
would have on the Christian community.

Call this "Politics" if you wish, but in my book, this is Christian life within
a secular state that has "separation of church and state".