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Politicizing Hurricane Milton

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“When I get back to Washington that’s the first thing, we’re gonna — we need a reorganization of FEMA. That is completely – I mean it’s like the Department of Education – shut it down, send that money to the states where they know best for how to do it,” Rep. Tim Burchett, of Tennessee’s 2nd Congressional District, said on The Benny Show podcast.

"All they know how to do is steal our dadgum money," said Burchett, who is in an ultra-safe district.
Let's see how that works when the hard-hit statements go begging from the safer states who don't have many natural disasters.
 
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Is Congress expected to approve more disaster aid soon?​

[Congress is in recess until November 12]

“Look, we’ll be back in session immediately after the election,” [Speaker] Johnson said on “Fox News Sunday.”

White House officials have privately urged congressional leaders to pass a disaster aid bill while remaining on recess. That legislation could pass through “unanimous consent,” when all 535 members of Congress agree to the measure without objection.

[Congress previously did so after Hurricane Katrina in 2004]

Biden sending emergency funding bill for disaster relief to Congress

Several agencies said they are running low of money in the wake of back-to-back major hurricanes, the memo stated.

"The Biden-Harris Administration stands ready to work with lawmakers to deliver the vital resources our communities need with strong bipartisan and bicameral support -- just as Speaker Mike Johnson has promised," Shalanda Young, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, wrote in the memo.
 
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Biden sending emergency funding bill for disaster relief to Congress

Several agencies said they are running low of money in the wake of back-to-back major hurricanes, the memo stated.

"The Biden-Harris Administration stands ready to work with lawmakers to deliver the vital resources our communities need with strong bipartisan and bicameral support -- just as Speaker Mike Johnson has promised," Shalanda Young, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, wrote in the memo.
Good.
 
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Just listened to most of Gov. DeSantis' message to Florida residents about preparing for Hurricane Milton. He managed to talk for at least fifteen minutes, thanking Publix, WalMart and other companies, saying that they had received $63 million in donations after Helene, and not mentioning the federal government at all.

As he continues to perpetuate this fantasy, let's remember that he refused to accept a call from VP Harris the day before.

For the truth about what the U.S. is doing in disaster relief for Hurricanes Helene and Milton, visit

It's disgraceful that Republicans are spreading disinformation and frightening residents who fear help won't be there when they need it.

The fact that DeSantis is not extending the deadline for registering to vote shows where his priorities are. Ugh.

We have many close relative in Florida, and my husband's whole family is in the Tampa to Clearwater area. We are praying for the people, as I'm sure you are.

It upsets me to see these disasters exploited for political purposes.
Biden had enough for (illegally) paying off student loans, give arms to Ukraine, and spent billions in the last few days on semi-conductor manufacturers (Silicon Valley supporters). But the Democrats saved money by skipping the homes of Trump supporters.

The fact is FEMA has spent their funds on illegals and now doesn't have the money to cover disasters. I wouldn't give FEMA a dime. I would give the money directly to the states.
 
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Biden had enough for (illegally) paying off student loans
The only loans forgiven were through programs created by Congress.
, give arms to Ukraine,
money appropriated for that purpose by Congress
and spent billions in the last few days on semi-conductor manufacturers (Silicon Valley supporters).
Also money appropriated by Congress
But the Democrats saved money by skipping the homes of Trump supporters.
I know that has been claimed, but from my understanding there is no proof of it.
The fact is
It's always really interesting when somebody prefaces something by saying "the fact is" because what follows is often not a fact.
FEMA has spent their funds on illegals
Using money appropriated for that purpose by Congress
and now doesn't have the money to cover disasters.
That is not what Mayorkas said. He said that they will run out of money before the end of hurricane season if Congress didn't give them more money. It's also worth pointing out that the money for housing for undocumented immigrants is in a different fund than for disaster relief. They could have spent literally no money on supporting DHS with housing immigrants and still not have enough money for disaster relief.
I wouldn't give FEMA a dime. I would give the money directly to the states.
The states would be worse off if it was simply a block grant. In the current situation, the aid is targeted to places that have the most need, which wouldn't be the case if it were spread out to the whole country.
 
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The only loans forgiven were through programs created by Congress.

money appropriated for that purpose by Congress

Also money appropriated by Congress

I know that has been claimed, but from my understanding there is no proof of it.

It's always really interesting when somebody prefaces something by saying "the fact is" because what follows is often not a fact.

Using money appropriated for that purpose by Congress

That is not what Mayorkas said. He said that they will run out of money before the end of hurricane season if Congress didn't give them more money. It's also worth pointing out that the money for housing for undocumented immigrants is in a different fund than for disaster relief. They could have spent literally no money on supporting DHS with housing immigrants and still not have enough money for disaster relief.

The states would be worse off if it was simply a block grant. In the current situation, the aid is targeted to places that have the most need, which wouldn't be the case if it were spread out to the whole country.
I appreciate your effort Arc - but from what I remember ALL of these points have been covered in the post before with evidence and links demonstrating them sufficiently.

Some "Christians" just do not seem to love truth - or want to serve God with all their "Mind" in all honest objectivity.
 
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I appreciate your effort Arc - but from what I remember ALL of these points have been covered in the post before with evidence and links demonstrating them sufficiently.

Some "Christians" just do not seem to love truth - or want to serve God with all their "Mind" in all honest objectivity.
Eh, not everybody reads all the posts in a thread before responding. So I'm assuming they are just repeating talking points without knowing the truth behind them.
 
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Eh, not everybody reads all the posts in a thread before responding. So I'm assuming they are just repeating talking points without knowing the truth behind them.
Sorry - I wasn't criticising you for not knowing the whole history of the thread - but just pointing out that some people will not change their minds no matter how much credible information is shared with them.
 
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Sorry - I wasn't criticising you for not knowing the whole history of the thread - but just pointing out that some people will not change their minds no matter how much credible information is shared with them.
Oh, no I was more saying I was assuming that the poster I was responding too didn't read the thread and thus didn't know they were sprouting incorrect info.
 
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The only loans forgiven were through programs created by Congress.

money appropriated for that purpose by Congress

Also money appropriated by Congress

I know that has been claimed, but from my understanding there is no proof of it.

It's always really interesting when somebody prefaces something by saying "the fact is" because what follows is often not a fact.

Using money appropriated for that purpose by Congress

That is not what Mayorkas said. He said that they will run out of money before the end of hurricane season if Congress didn't give them more money. It's also worth pointing out that the money for housing for undocumented immigrants is in a different fund than for disaster relief. They could have spent literally no money on supporting DHS with housing immigrants and still not have enough money for disaster relief.

The states would be worse off if it was simply a block grant. In the current situation, the aid is targeted to places that have the most need, which wouldn't be the case if it were spread out to the whole country.
The Department of Education issued those loans. Biden told the people who had outstanding debt that they didn't have to pay those loans back. The Supreme Court stated that Biden didn't have that authority. He ignored them and went ahead and erased those loans-funds that we, as taxpayers, will now have to pay to the bank.

This was a campaign promise of Biden. I'm not sure why you are trying to say Biden didn't do this. It's been trumpeted in all the papers. I would think you would be happy with this.
 
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The Department of Education issued those loans. Biden told the people who had outstanding debt that they didn't have to pay those loans back. The Supreme Court stated that Biden didn't have that authority.
Actually not true. If you believe this you need to read Biden v. Missouri again. What that case decided was that Biden did not have the authority to forgive student loans using the HEROES Act. In other words, this specific tool was not one that could be used that way.
He ignored them and went ahead and erased those loans-funds that we, as taxpayers, will now have to pay to the bank.
He didn't ignore them though. He listened to them, dropped his attempt to forgive loans through the HEROES Act, and looked for and found some other way to reach his goal. He ended up using more targeted forgiveness using some provisions of the Higher Education Act instead of his earlier blanket approach. It's as if the goal to forgive loans was a room and BIden tried to go through one door and was told he couldn't so he just looked until he found a different door he could use.
This was a campaign promise of Biden.
I'm not denying that.
I'm not sure why you are trying to say Biden didn't do this.
I'm not saying Biden didn't implement some student loan forgiveness, I'm just rebutting the implication this was some sort of rouge act instead of Biden using his authority as President as specifically granted by Congress. In other words, if Congress didn't want him to be able to fulfill his promise of meeting this goal, they should have amended the HEA.
 
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