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Comparing Pelosi's comment on Biden to people's opinions on me

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I read on CNN News that Pelosi said its up to Biden to decide if he is going to run, and that it was interpreted as she was saying he should step down. I wouldn't have interpretted it this way. In fact to me it seems the opposite: that she was saying they should stop pressuring him to step down and respect his decision to run. Now, this is not about Biden, this is about me. Why is it a comment about Biden that everyone else seems to think is negative, I happened to perceive is positive? Maybe its because I get Ds and Fs in life, and thats why C sounds like a good grade to me. But others, who are getting As and Bs in life, to them C is a bad grade. So this just underscores just how horrible a feedback I must be getting in order for my interpretation of Pelosi's feedback on Biden to differ so greating from everyone else's interpretation.

So lets directly compare some of my feedback to Pelosi's feedback. I am very talkative here online, but if you see me in person I am a lot less talkative: I keep waiting for people to approach me and get frustrated that nobody does. When I complain about it, I am told I should just approach people myself. I guess I interpreted it as if they told me its not true that nobody likes me, and I get mad at them for lying to me since I think its most definitely true. But actually they didn't say the phrase "its not true", so maybe its the same kind of misinterpretation as the one I have about Pelosi and Biden. As much as I am mad at them for saying its not true, it would make me feel better if they did say this, on some level, so maybe its my desperation that makes me interpret it this way.

But anyway, if we *assume* thats what they say, then lets put it side by side with Pelosi+Biden and see how ridiculuous it would be. So, on the one hand, when Pelosi says its up to Biden to decide if he is going to run, its supposed to be a negative comment. On the other hand, when nobody talks to me (neither in church, nor at work, nor anywhere else), its supposed to be neutral. Do you see how ridiculous it is? Pelosi actually defended Bided when she said its up to him, yet its supposed to be negative because I guess she didn't defend him hard enough. But in my case, nobody even says hello to me, yet its supposed to be neutral because I didn't say hello first (why should I be the one saying it first?) So you see how its a double standard?

Now lets look at another example. When I am complaining "am I going to die single and childless", people are telling me its up to God. I take it as if they are insinuate that they think God wants me to die single and childless and I confront them why do they think God wants that? Then they say "we didn't say God wants that, we don't know what God wants, thats why you have to pray". Well, they didn't say this but they insinuated this, and the only reason they are denying it is because they don't want an argument. But even if I give them a benefit of the doubt and say they did mean "they don't know it", this still leaves a very good possibility that maybe God wants me to die single and childless (just with a word maybe inserted). Were they leaving this kind of possibility for themselves when they were single? Are they leaving this possibility for their single friends who don't have Asperger's? And even suggestion to pray to find out God's will. In case of other people, they are praying for them to find a partner. But in my case they want me to pray to see God's will. See the difference?

Lets now compare this to what Pelosi said about Biden. In my case, they told me its up to God, and its supposed to be neutral. In Pelosi's case, she said it its up to him, and its supposed to be negative. I disagree. I think saying its up to Biden is more positive than saying its up to God. When people are telling me its up to God, they are saying that maybe God already decided I should be single and childless and there is nothing I can do about it. But when Pelosi says its up to Biden, then yes Biden has a power to stay in a race: all he has to do is to decide to stay in a race which he already did. So I think what Pelosi said about Biden is much more positive than what people say about me.
 

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I read on CNN News that Pelosi said its up to Biden to decide if he is going to run, and that it was interpreted as she was saying he should step down. I wouldn't have interpretted it this way. In fact to me it seems the opposite: that she was saying they should stop pressuring him to step down and respect his decision to run. Now, this is not about Biden, this is about me. Why is it a comment about Biden that everyone else seems to think is negative, I happened to perceive is positive? Maybe its because I get Ds and Fs in life, and thats why C sounds like a good grade to me. But others, who are getting As and Bs in life, to them C is a bad grade. So this just underscores just how horrible a feedback I must be getting in order for my interpretation of Pelosi's feedback on Biden to differ so greating from everyone else's interpretation.
I'm going to "jump in" where I probably shouldn't here. . .

Asperger's causes one to interpret everything literally, only according to the literal meaning of the words.
However, words and phrases very often are used not literally, but figuratively, as in my use of "jump in" above.
This is not natural to those with Asperger's, so they have to learn their figurative meanings also.
As in my use of "jump in," which implies a physical leap into something, while my "leap" is not physical, but conversational.

You are correct. The literal meaning of what they state is often not the real meaning of what they state.
I guess you will have to rely on others to help clarify their intended meanings for you.
So lets directly compare some of my feedback to Pelosi's feedback. I am very talkative here online, but if you see me in person I am a lot less talkative: I keep waiting for people to approach me and get frustrated that nobody does. When I complain about it, I am told I should just approach people myself. I guess I interpreted it as if they told me its not true that nobody likes me, and I get mad at them for lying to me since I think its most definitely true. But actually they didn't say the phrase "its not true", so maybe its the same kind of misinterpretation as the one I have about Pelosi and Biden. As much as I am mad at them for saying its not true, it would make me feel better if they did say this, on some level, so maybe its my desperation that makes me interpret it this way.

But anyway, if we *assume* thats what they say, then lets put it side by side with Pelosi+Biden and see how ridiculuous it would be. So, on the one hand, when Pelosi says its up to Biden to decide if he is going to run, its supposed to be a negative comment. On the other hand, when nobody talks to me (neither in church, nor at work, nor anywhere else), its supposed to be neutral. Do you see how ridiculous it is? Pelosi actually defended Bided when she said its up to him, yet its supposed to be negative because I guess she didn't defend him hard enough. But in my case, nobody even says hello to me, yet its supposed to be neutral because I didn't say hello first (why should I be the one saying it first?) So you see how its a double standard?

Now lets look at another example. When I am complaining "am I going to die single and childless", people are telling me its up to God. I take it as if they are insinuate that they think God wants me to die single and childless and I confront them why do they think God wants that? Then they say "we didn't say God wants that, we don't know what God wants, thats why you have to pray". Well, they didn't say this but they insinuated this, and the only reason they are denying it is because they don't want an argument. But even if I give them a benefit of the doubt and say they did mean "they don't know it", this still leaves a very good possibility that maybe God wants me to die single and childless (just with a word maybe inserted). Were they leaving this kind of possibility for themselves when they were single? Are they leaving this possibility for their single friends who don't have Asperger's? And even suggestion to pray to find out God's will. In case of other people, they are praying for them to find a partner. But in my case they want me to pray to see God's will. See the difference?

Lets now compare this to what Pelosi said about Biden. In my case, they told me its up to God, and its supposed to be neutral. In Pelosi's case, she said it its up to him, and its supposed to be negative. I disagree. I think saying its up to Biden is more positive than saying its up to God. When people are telling me its up to God, they are saying that maybe God already decided I should be single and childless and there is nothing I can do about it. But when Pelosi says its up to Biden, then yes Biden has a power to stay in a race: all he has to do is to decide to stay in a race which he already did. So I think what Pelosi said about Biden is much more positive than what people say about me.
 
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I'm going to "jump in" where I probably shouldn't here. . .

I didn't mean to make an impression that I don't want people without Asperger to respond. On the contrary, I want to get as many perspectives as possible: both from people with Asperger and from people without it. The reason I posted it on Asperger board is because the topic of the post is Asperger (namely, I have Asperger). But I intended to invite everyone in the discussion, regardless of whether they have it or not.

By the way, maybe this is part of the problem? Do I make an impression that I don't want to hear what others have to say, and thats why they don't talk to me?
 
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I didn't mean to make an impression that I don't want people without Asperger to respond. On the contrary, I want to get as many perspectives as possible: both from people with Asperger and from people without it. The reason I posted it on Asperger board is because the topic of the post is Asperger (namely, I have Asperger). But I intended to invite everyone in the discussion, regardless of whether they have it or not.

By the way, maybe this is part of the problem? Do I make an impression that I don't want to hear what others have to say, and thats why they don't talk to me?
I doubt it. . .

Maybe it's because you have difficulty understanding their use of language.
 
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I doubt it. . .

Maybe it's because you have difficulty understanding their use of language.

I agree I might not understand their use of language. But can you be more specific and tell me specific ways in which I misinterpret their language?
 
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I agree I might not understand their use of language. But can you be more specific and tell me specific ways in which I misinterpret their language?
I had in mind the OP. . .
 
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I read on CNN News that Pelosi said its up to Biden to decide if he is going to run, and that it was interpreted as she was saying he should step down. I wouldn't have interpretted it this way. In fact to me it seems the opposite: that she was saying they should stop pressuring him to step down and respect his decision to run. Now, this is not about Biden, this is about me. Why is it a comment about Biden that everyone else seems to think is negative, I happened to perceive is positive? Maybe its because I get Ds and Fs in life, and thats why C sounds like a good grade to me. But others, who are getting As and Bs in life, to them C is a bad grade. So this just underscores just how horrible a feedback I must be getting in order for my interpretation of Pelosi's feedback on Biden to differ so greating from everyone else's interpretation.

So lets directly compare some of my feedback to Pelosi's feedback. I am very talkative here online, but if you see me in person I am a lot less talkative: I keep waiting for people to approach me and get frustrated that nobody does. When I complain about it, I am told I should just approach people myself. I guess I interpreted it as if they told me its not true that nobody likes me, and I get mad at them for lying to me since I think its most definitely true. But actually they didn't say the phrase "its not true", so maybe its the same kind of misinterpretation as the one I have about Pelosi and Biden. As much as I am mad at them for saying its not true, it would make me feel better if they did say this, on some level, so maybe its my desperation that makes me interpret it this way.

But anyway, if we *assume* thats what they say, then lets put it side by side with Pelosi+Biden and see how ridiculuous it would be. So, on the one hand, when Pelosi says its up to Biden to decide if he is going to run, its supposed to be a negative comment. On the other hand, when nobody talks to me (neither in church, nor at work, nor anywhere else), its supposed to be neutral. Do you see how ridiculous it is? Pelosi actually defended Bided when she said its up to him, yet its supposed to be negative because I guess she didn't defend him hard enough. But in my case, nobody even says hello to me, yet its supposed to be neutral because I didn't say hello first (why should I be the one saying it first?) So you see how its a double standard?

Now lets look at another example. When I am complaining "am I going to die single and childless", people are telling me its up to God. I take it as if they are insinuate that they think God wants me to die single and childless and I confront them why do they think God wants that? Then they say "we didn't say God wants that, we don't know what God wants, thats why you have to pray". Well, they didn't say this but they insinuated this, and the only reason they are denying it is because they don't want an argument. But even if I give them a benefit of the doubt and say they did mean "they don't know it", this still leaves a very good possibility that maybe God wants me to die single and childless (just with a word maybe inserted). Were they leaving this kind of possibility for themselves when they were single? Are they leaving this possibility for their single friends who don't have Asperger's? And even suggestion to pray to find out God's will. In case of other people, they are praying for them to find a partner. But in my case they want me to pray to see God's will. See the difference?

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I told a woman I hadn't recognised her so she said "I have aged". Somepeople don't recognise faces easily. In the social context I think it was tactless of her to - at that initial point - risk looking as if she was accusing me of implying something conventionally discourteous on my part, and I know that's the general view. I also know that some people assume some things about me that I genuinely haven't given them cause to think.

It may be she meant what she was saying, in which case I have no problem with her not having a problem! (This won't stand between us, I am just citing an example of gambits.) I could add that I am talking about me and not about her. This arose because she recognised me and was puzzled.

A renowned holy preacher was at a meeting when a small minded fellow attender asked him if he should apply for a certain job in which he in fact turned out a disastrous performer. The holy man ("eyes rolling" inwardly) told him he should do as he thinks he should (too obvious to occur to the other). In other words, why should he assume he should ask a stranger whom he has put on a wrong pedestal - it's not a compliment - that was not why God sent the holy man there, and it was not why God offered the man the wasted capability to think, network realistically, discern and decide.

A big set of problems arises precisely because the majority don't take what is intended moderately literally, as mostly roughly just that.

But Roman, you compound that infinitely by copying others' view of an ungenerous "God". You have got to stick your neck out and tell them straight out that their "God" has got to be untrue. Thus the case is not that similar because the faulty thinking is even more in you than it already is in everybody else, precisely because you are copying them.
 
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