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Sotomayor won't resign from Supreme Court

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probinson said:
It's odd that this is considered normal.
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Since when has it been odd for a spokesperson to put a positive spin (aka "lie") on things? Notably, the quote you pulled was about campaign staff talking to "movers and shakers" (donors, celebrities, etc) about how the campaign was going in order to get their backing - financial, political, social. A political campaign is not the government.
 
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RocksInMyHead said:
Since when has it been odd for a spokesperson to put a positive spin (aka "lie") on things? Notably, the quote you pulled was about campaign staff talking to "movers and shakers" (donors, celebrities, etc) about how the campaign was going in order to get their backing - financial, political, social. A political campaign is not the government.
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If you want to believe that campaigns lie but once they're elected they suddenly start telling the truth, I suppose that's your prerogative. I find it pretty naive, personally.
 
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RocksInMyHead said:
Since when has it been odd for a spokesperson to put a positive spin (aka "lie") on things?
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A positive spin? In what was admittedly a "doomed" campaign? What is positive about that?

And the fact that they're telling this to donors, or the "movers and shakers", is even worse. They're like Baghdad Bob pretending like everything is peachy-keen, fine and dandy when they know everything is burning down around them. And then they "blatantly lie" to keep the money coming in under false pretenses. And we've apparently decided this is all normal and give it the much friendlier term, "spin".


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dogs4thewin said:
I am on SSDI now
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Sorry, my bad.
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if that is what you are implying as to SSI that program needs to be revisited anyway as there is NO way one can live off that with all the offsets. As to SSDI that is tricky because it is a situation where on the one hand you do not want people abusing the system on the other hand it needs to be easier to access for people who truely need it. I am not sure what the balance is there One thing that would help with SSDI is if they fixed the system by which one goes back to work. Right now the nine month trial work period ( that allows people who are on their own record to work while recieving benefits is on a ROLLING five year period. This can make people scared to go back to work because if you go back find you cannot do it after say three months quit go back a year later try again quit after four moths go back six months later and try again if you are sucessful then after two monthsif you do not think to call and cancel the benefits if the SSA does not catch it or whatever then you will owe them money if caught. Same thing applies if you quit and go back after say anoth six to nine months because you have used up your nine month trial period.
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The thing about privatization is that it inserts a middleman whose goal is to maximize profits and minimize payouts which is rarely, if ever, beneficial to the recipients. One problem about efficiency is that it is more efficient to keep people from getting benefits and to kick people out of the program than it is to serve them well - too many see "efficiency" in terms of money rather than of services provided. This hits the mentally ill particularly hard (a dolefully neglected section of our population).
 
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that is not privataztion. There is nothing private about the trial work period ( other than working for a private employer, but it is the SSA that is still paying those benefits for the up to nine months while people try their hand at getting back in the workforce. The problem is because it is a rolling five year period most people do not think to keep up with well gee I worked three months here failed quit for three months, went back for four months quit for two months get to month three month on my next try and uh oh I owe the SSA money now because I was overpaid and then they keep working say for another four months by the time it is caught they owe the SSA say7.5k for five months of overpayment . Sometimes more if it goes for a couple of years like that. For eah month you are overpaid you owe the government that in overpayment. You can see how quickly that can add up if someone is not thinking to catch it
 
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