Teen arrested for plotting ISIS-inspired terror attack on Phoenix Pride parade using TATP

essentialsaltes said:

“The top threat we face from [domestic violent extremists] continues to be those we identify as Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremists (RMVEs), specifically those who advocate for the superiority of the white race,” FBI director Christopher Wray testified before members of the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday [2021].

The FBI has formally elevated the threat from white supremacist groups to its top priority level, alongside Isis and its network of homegrown terrorists, Mr Wray said.

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From 2021 to present, the New America Foundation notes 3 right wing extremist terror attacks in the US with a total of 21 deaths. All three involved racial animus.
In the same time frame, there have been (per Wikipedia) zero terrorist attacks associated with ISIS in the US.

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Yes, if you whittle it down to just a specific 3 year time window in one geographic location, ....sure, I guess 5,000 guys in white pointy hats are more dangerous than an international terror organization.

By that standard, we have some street gangs in East Cleveland that are more dangerous than the Yakuza and Columbian Cartels.

However, if you expand the time window to get a better idea...

Curious as to why the New America Foundation decided to "start the clock" at 2021 and not, say, 2013?
Perhaps the NYC Truck Attack, OSU Attack, New Jersey Bombings, Pulse Night Club attack, San Bernadino Attack, Tennessee Military Base attack, Curtis Culwell Center attack, and Boston Marathon Bombing may have shifted those stats just a bit in a direction that doesn't conveniently conform to a particular narrative.

ThatRobGuy said:

Yes, if you whittle it down to just a specific 3 year time window in one geographic location, ....sure, I guess 5,000 guys in white pointy hats are more dangerous than an international terror organization.

By that standard, we have some street gangs in East Cleveland that are more dangerous than the Yakuza and Columbian Cartels.

However, if you expand the time window to get a better idea...

Curious as to why the New America Foundation decided to "start the clock" at 2021 and not, say, 2013?
Perhaps the NYC Truck Attack, OSU Attack, New Jersey Bombings, Pulse Night Club attack, San Bernadino Attack, Tennessee Military Base attack, Curtis Culwell Center attack, and Boston Marathon Bombing may have shifted those stats just a bit in a direction that doesn't conveniently conform to a particular narrative.

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Because this is the 2020s, not the 2010s. The FBI is assessing threats we currently face, not what was going on 10 years ago.

Hans Blaster said:

Because this is the 2020s, not the 2010s. The FBI is assessing threats we currently face, not what was going on 10 years ago.

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ISIS is still a more major threat, it's a matter of access and timing.

Unless ISIS is going through some sort of PR Image reform and have vastly changed their worldview? Has that occurred and I missed it? Or are they still on the "if I kill a bunch of non-Muslims and westerners, and die in the process, I'll get 70 virgins" kick?

One of the major concerns that conservatives express (and it's not completely unfounded, because it's happened) is that weak border policies could allow them easier access via the southern border.


Islamic terrorism may happen less frequently states-side, but when it does, it tends to be much better funded, better organized, and rack up a much bigger body count than when angry rednecks and neo-nazis do it.

As long as ISIS and Islamic radicalism is still in existence, they're a bigger threat (per the NBC News article I linked above, of the 400 that ISIS networks smuggled in across the southern border, only 150 have been apprehended and are accounted for)

You only need one 9/11 attack to equal more than all of the right wing terrorism from 2001 to 2024 combined (x10)

ThatRobGuy said:

ISIS is still a more major threat, it's a matter of access and timing.

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I didn't say they weren't a major threat.

ThatRobGuy said:

Unless ISIS is going through some sort of PR Image reform and have vastly changed their worldview? Has that occurred and I missed it? Or are they still on the "if I kill a bunch of non-Muslims and westerners, and die in the process, I'll get 70 virgins" kick?

One of the major concerns that conservatives express (and it's not completely unfounded, because it's happened) is that weak border policies could allow them easier access via the southern border.

DHS identifies over 400 migrants brought to the U.S. by an ISIS-affiliated smuggling network

Over 150 have been arrested, but the whereabouts of over 50 remain unknown, officials said. ICE is looking to arrest them on immigration charges when they are found.

www.nbcnews.com

List of Islamist terrorist attacks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Islamic terrorism may happen less frequently states-side, but when it does, it tends to be much better funded, better organized, and rack up a much bigger body count than when angry rednecks and neo-nazis do it.

As long as ISIS and Islamic radicalism is still in existence, they're a bigger threat (per the NBC News article I linked above, of the 400 that ISIS networks smuggled in across the southern border, only 150 have been apprehended and are accounted for)

You only need one 9/11 attack to equal more than all of the right wing terrorism from 2001 to 2024 combined (x10)

Right-wing terrorism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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A single event is not statistical. It was also 20+ years ago and does not represent the current threat matrix.