Will the Antichrist be a cloned being ?

Apple Sky · Aug 23, 2024

I did read somewhere that Anti-Christ/Messiah would be a cloned being, cloned from the blood of Jesus which is known as the true holy grail which they have had in safe keeping until the right time.

Antichrist: The Cloned Image of Jesus Christby by Dr. Joye Jeffries Pugh

I believe I was called to write the Lord God’s truth. I was born for such reason. It has been my lifelong calling to investigate and reveal the puzzle of God’s truth as revealed to me. As our world comes closer to God’s predicted end-times; always know Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior is near; even at the door. With this, it is my hope to prepare you for Satan’s antichrist clone, who will come as a counterfeit. My hope is to introduce you to the real Jesus so that you will not be deceived by this coming imposted

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RandyPNW · Aug 23, 2024

I don't know what the "Image of the Beast" will be. Antichrist will not be a clone--he will be a man, in my opinion. There isn't enough time in history to perfect the science of cloning simply to fulfill prophecy. Antichrists have existed all through NT history--all without cloning. It is, I think, a bit of a distraction. Let's focus on what the Scriptures say, instead of getting too speculative about modern science.

Handmaid for Jesus · Aug 23, 2024

Apple Sky said:
I did read somewhere that Anti-Christ/Messiah would be a cloned being, cloned from the blood of Jesus which is known as the true holy grail which they have had in safe keeping until the right time.

Antichrist: The Cloned Image of Jesus Christby by Dr. Joye Jeffries Pugh

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Antichrist-Cloned-Image-Jesus-Christ/dp/1387429884

IMHO, there is technology that can augment biologics. I think it is possible thaat Nephilim tecnology could alter a man's DNA. So not a clone, but an augmented man...such as Nimrod.

Aldebaran · Aug 23, 2024

Not sure about the Beast, but the scriptural descriptions of the false prophet and especially the Image seem to indicate either a clone, or maybe even an AI creation. I lean toward the latter.

Apple Sky · Aug 23, 2024

Handmaid for Jesus said:
So not a clone, but an augmented man...such as Nimrod.

Rob Skiba tends to move towards the idea that it could be Nimrod, i'll post a video when I find it.

Apple Sky · Aug 24, 2024

Handmaid for Jesus said:
IMHO, there is technology that can augment biologics. I think it is possible thaat Nephilim tecnology could alter a man's DNA. So not a clone, but an augmented man...such as Nimrod.

Here are the videos as promised - Enjoy

Douggg · Aug 24, 2024

Apple Sky said:
Here are the videos as promised - Enjoy

I watched the video. No, Nimrod is not the beast of Revelation who's number of his name is 666. Rob says the name of the beast is Apollo. But Apollo does not add to 666.

Another issue is that the person as the "Anti" "christ" must be anointed as the King of Israel thought-to-messiah by the Jews, instead of and against the rightful King of Israel, messiah - Jesus. Therefore, the person must be a Jew. Nimrod is a non-fit. Rob does not consider the being a Jew factor of the Antichrist.

Mark 15: 32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

Rob goes to Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

What Rod did not refer to is Revelation 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

The scarlet colored beast represented Satan. The mystery of Satan is that he used the garden of eden serpent beast to get Adam and Eve to sin at the foundation of the world. The garden of eden serpent beast is the first being of the earth in the bible to do evil. It is the serpent beast, as a disembodied spirit, that is in the bottomless pit - that will someday ascend out of it. To possess the end times person who will become the beast, in namesake of the serpent beast.

RileyG · Aug 24, 2024

Would a cloned human have a soul?

The Liturgist · Sep 12, 2024

Apple Sky said:
I did read somewhere that Anti-Christ/Messiah would be a cloned being, cloned from the blood of Jesus which is known as the true holy grail which they have had in safe keeping until the right time.

Where? Who is “they”?

Because you know, the actual Blood of Christ our True God is present in the Eucharist. I do not consider it likely our Lord would allow anyone to clone Him, and God, being omnipotent, can absolutely put a stop to that.

The Liturgist · Sep 12, 2024

RileyG said:
Would a cloned human have a soul?

Why wouldn’t they? Cloning does not create an exact copy of the cloned, merely a something with the same DNA. If you’ve ever had a banana, you’ve basically had a clone, since the seedless bananas which are cultivated are not able to reproduce. They are literal offshoots of the Cavendish banana (or before the 1950s, the Gros Michel, the production of which stopped due to a fungal infection, but now a fungus is attacking Cavendish bananas and has been doing so for some time, so I recall reading as far back as 2007 about proposals to bring back the Gros Michel cultivar.

Seed-bearing bananas would not make for pleasant consumption.

At any rate, a cloned human would have a similar appearance to its clone, but it would be a bit like that of twins - clones might develop a different appearance based on diet and exercise, and would likely have their own interests and personality.

My main fear, from the perspective of Christian pro-life bioethics, is that people will have clones made of themselves for use in providing spare parts. A new clone might be made every year during childhood, and every five to ten years during adulthood, and these clones would be confined to sanitoria where they would eat healthy diets and be exercised, and perhaps receive some minimal education to keep them useful, and when no longer needed as a source of spare parts, they would be “allowed to leave” the cloning facility (actually, probably harvested for their organs, even including their skin, which would still be useful in persons other than their clone, although I would note that very wide distribution of cloned organs might increase the risk of an infection appearing that would specifically be harmful to the cloned individual. Either way I doubt any of the clones bread for spare parts would make it into old age.

Apple Sky · Sep 12, 2024

The Liturgist said:
My main fear, from the perspective of Christian pro-life bioethics, is that people will have clones made of themselves for use in providing spare parts. A new clone might be made every year during childhood, and every five to ten years during adulthood, and these clones would be confined to sanitoria where they would eat healthy diets and be exercised, and perhaps receive some minimal education to keep them useful, and when no longer needed as a source of spare parts, they would be “allowed to leave” the cloning facility (actually, probably harvested for their organs, even including their skin, which would still be useful in persons other than their clone, although I would note that very wide distribution of cloned organs might increase the risk of an infection appearing that would specifically be harmful to the cloned individual. Either way I doubt any of the clones bread for spare parts would make it into old age.

Do clones feel pain ?

The Liturgist · Sep 12, 2024

Apple Sky said:
Do clones feel pain ?

Well the animals we experimentally cloned clearly could, we know that from their behavior.

It would be unconscionably cruel to intentionally inflict pain on a clone just to see what happens, but since every clone, going back to Dolly the Sheep, behaves normally, and much normal behavior, as much for irrational beasts as for men, is informed by the natural and God-given defense mechanism of aversion to pain.

alertandawake · Sep 19, 2024

RandyPNW said:
I don't know what the "Image of the Beast" will be. Antichrist will not be a clone--he will be a man, in my opinion. There isn't enough time in history to perfect the science of cloning simply to fulfill prophecy. Antichrists have existed all through NT history--all without cloning. It is, I think, a bit of a distraction. Let's focus on what the Scriptures say, instead of getting too speculative about modern science.

The Image of the Beast could be made up of multiple components? The technologies we got today, like communication and surveillance, AI and so on. All the necessary components have to be put into place before the "mark" is required.

As for the Antichrist being a man, in the case of a single individual, I don't feel this is the case, but that is my opinion.

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