Half of US clergy backs Trump — with only 23% backing Harris: survey

HARK! · Sep 19, 2024

Half of US clergy backs Trump — with only 23% backing Harris: survey

One presidential candidate this year may have more than a prayer when it comes to support from America’s clergy, a new survey reveals.

nypost.com

mindlight · Sep 19, 2024

HARK! said:
Half of US clergy backs Trump — with only 23% backing Harris: survey

One presidential candidate this year may have more than a prayer when it comes to support from America’s clergy, a new survey reveals.

nypost.com

Harris is a compromised Christian, I get that. Her views on abortion and gay marriage have nothing to do with true faith. She does not stand with persecuted Christians around the world and turns a blind eye to their oppression. But this unanimity of support for Trump is deeply concerning because the man is not fit to be president.

He has a criminal record, he is an adulterer and he is a bully who divides rather than unites. His economic strategy could bankrupt the USA and his foreign policy is a disaster waiting to happen and would destabilize the entire world.

The fact is that Trump is emptying churches because his message is essentially one of using force to promote Christianity, tinged with the racism of white protestants against Hispanic immigrants, showing contempt for the poor, and lacking all Christian compassion. Persecuted Christians around the world may appreciate that he might help them but in the long run, his support is a poisoned chalice that will not benefit them as it will harden hearts and minds against them in their lands.

The best policy for Republican Christians is to vote for Harris for president and support the Republicans in the Senate and House. That way they can ensure she cannot pass her Federal baby-killing bill but at least end this Trump nightmare once and for all.

HARK! · Sep 19, 2024

mindlight said:
His economic strategy could bankrupt the USA

What kind of business experience does Harris have? I mean other that what Biden might have taught her about Hunter's shell companies.

Most American yearn to go back to the good old economic times that had under good old Trump.

HARK! · Sep 19, 2024

mindlight said:
He has a criminal record

Do you mean after the Biden/Harris Administration weaponized the government against him?

HARK! · Sep 19, 2024

mindlight said:
his foreign policy is a disaster waiting to happen and would destabilize the entire world.

You mean worse than overthrowing a government, installing a puppet, and pushing us toward war with the world's most powerful nuclear power, while simultaneously pushing us toward war with that nuclear power's ally, which has one of the largest populations on earth?

China has us out manned; and Russia has us outgunned; and this administration thinks that it can win a three front war.

It's insanity; but these Oligarchs have bunkers to save their own skin.

Oh, and I almost forgot this:

In your eyes, is the best policy to sell out the American People to the Globalists?

Hans Blaster · Sep 19, 2024

HARK! said:
Half of US clergy backs Trump — with only 23% backing Harris: survey

One presidential candidate this year may have more than a prayer when it comes to support from America’s clergy, a new survey reveals.

nypost.com

And what fraction of Americans pay attention to what clergy say?

HARK! · Sep 19, 2024

Hans Blaster said:
And what fraction of Americans pay attention to what clergy say?

I don't know; but we Christians do.

bèlla · Sep 19, 2024

HARK! said:
China has us out manned; and Russia has us outgunned; and this administration thinks that it can win a three front war.

We're living in a perpetual SNL skit. It's so ridiculous you have to laugh.

You forgot North Korea. If we deal with the pair we'd have them as well.

HARK! said:
It's insanity; but these Oligarchs have bunkers to save their own skin.

A very smart move. You should do the same.

HARK! said:
In your eyes, is the best policy to sell out the American People to the Globalists?

You can't possibly believe they're only in one camp. Whether we get Trump or Harris they're part of the package.

~bella

bèlla · Sep 19, 2024

HARK! said:
I don't know; but we Christians do.

Not we. Some. I've never heeded their advice and I'm not alone in that.

~bella

Larniavc · Sep 19, 2024

HARK! said:
You mean worse than overthrowing a government, installing a puppet, and pushing us toward war with the world's most powerful nuclear power,

You do know this didn’t happen? The Jan 6th coup failed.

Stephen3141 · Sep 19, 2024

I'm not sure about your numbers.

Christianity Today has the same numbers, but says that 24% of pastors
will vote for Kamala, and 23% are undecided.

Half of Pastors Plan to Vote for Trump, Nearly a Quarter Wouldn’t Say - Christianity Today

Like other Americans, pastors are deciding who they’ll vote for in the November election. Compared to previous elections, however, they’re much more hesitant to share their preference. Almost all US Protestant pastors (97%) plan to vote in the 2024 presidential election, according to a Lifeway...

www.christianitytoday.com

Note that these stats seem to apply to Protestant "sort of" pastors.

Among some groups, there is much more support for Kamala than
for Trump.

These numbers were similar to the numbers in the 2020 election.
I'm not sure what insight can be gotten out of these numbers.

mindlight · Sep 19, 2024

HARK! said:
What kind of business experience does Harris have? I mean other that what Biden might have taught her about Hunter's shell companies.

Most American yearn to go back to the good old economic times that had under good old Trump.

Trump borrowed $5Trillion. It was a false boom that borrowed off your kids credit card

Hans Blaster · Sep 19, 2024

HARK! said:
I don't know; but we Christians do.

That's odd. I regularly hear whinging on this very site about how few "so-called" (as they are often tagged) Christians go to church regularly, or have a "Biblical worldview", or Catholics about the large number of their fellows that don't follow the Church's teachings on birth control or abortion.

Don't think "listening to clergy" on politics is super high in the pews.

mindlight · Sep 19, 2024

HARK! said:
Do you mean after the Biden/Harris Administration weaponized the government against him?

The timing of the cases is clearly political but the content is real enough.

Hans Blaster · Sep 19, 2024

HARK! said:
You mean worse than overthrowing a government, installing a puppet,

The US hasn't overthrown a government since we pushed out Saddam. That was 2 decades ago.

HARK! said:
and pushing us toward war with the world's most powerful nuclear power,

How would that work? We *are* the "world's most powerful nuclear power".

HARK! said:
while simultaneously pushing us toward war with that nuclear power's ally, which has one of the largest populations on earth?

Since you seem to be talking about Russia earlier, you should know that China and Russia aren't "allies" in any meaningful military sense.

mindlight · Sep 19, 2024

HARK! said:
You mean worse than overthrowing a government, installing a puppet, and pushing us toward war with the world's most powerful nuclear power, while simultaneously pushing us toward war with that nuclear power's ally, which has one of the largest populations on earth?

China has us out manned; and Russia has us outgunned; and this administration thinks that it can win a three front war.

It's insanity; but these Oligarchs have bunkers to save their own skin.

Oh, and I almost forgot this:

In your eyes, is the best policy to sell out the American People to the Globalists?

You are talking about selling out the Ukraine to Putin and Taiwan to Xi Jing Ping, breaking the NATO alliance that has kept the peace for 77 years and a general level of favoritism to dictators! The brinkmanship here is being performed by Putin. Russia does not have the USA or indeed the rest of NATO outgunned and who cares how many Chinese there are. The current world order benefits the USA and indeed the rest of us. It keeps the peace and trade flowing. Also it keeps your borrowing costs lower.

wing2000 · Sep 19, 2024

"....while 23% refused to answer, Lifeway Research said. That “no answer” figure is roughly six times the 4% who declined an answer four years ago."

..not exactly a neutral polling organization:

Launched in 2006, Lifeway Research is a leading evangelical research firm measuring needs in the church and culture. Lifeway Research has become a renowned and respected source for insights on pastoral leadership, church ministry, and the beliefs and faith practices of Americans.

Laodicean60 · Sep 19, 2024

Hans Blaster said:
The US hasn't overthrown a government since we pushed out Saddam. That was 2 decades ago.

These are some of our involvement in regime change since Saddam: 2004: Haiti, 2005: Kyrgyzstan, 2006–2007: Palestine, 2005–2009: Syria, 2011: Libya, 2012–2017: Syria, 2019: Bolivia, 2019–2022: Venezuela.

Hans Blaster said:
How would that work? We *are* the "world's most powerful nuclear power".

Yes we are but once the button is pushed there will be no winners and if we get into a nuclear conflict I'm sure China will help Russia finish the USA off. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Laodicean60 · Sep 19, 2024

"Summary from the AllSides News Team
The fourth-largest union in the country said its member polls showed "no majority support" for Kamala Harris and "no universal support" for Donald Trump."

Teamsters Won't Endorse a Presidential Candidate After Member Polls Split

See multiple perspectives from CNBC, Breitbart News, and CNN Digital at AllSides.com.

www.allsides.com

Chesterton · Sep 19, 2024

Laodicean60 said:
"Summary from the AllSides News Team
The fourth-largest union in the country said its member polls showed "no majority support" for Kamala Harris and "no universal support" for Donald Trump."

Teamsters Won't Endorse a Presidential Candidate After Member Polls Split

See multiple perspectives from CNBC, Breitbart News, and CNN Digital at AllSides.com.

www.allsides.com

What does "universal support" mean? 100%?

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