White House Defends Trump Threat Label Amid Violence

Valletta · Sep 18, 2024

“It’s been only two days since somebody allegedly tried to kill Donald Trump again and you’re here at the podium at the White House briefing room calling him a threat,” Doocy said. “How many more assassination attempts on Donald Trump until the president and the vice president and you pick a different word to describe Trump other than ‘threat’?”

Karine Jean-Pierre says it’s OK to call Trump a ‘threat’ to democracy despite murder plots: ‘Jan. 6! Jan. 6! Jan. 6!’

“How many more assassination attempts on Donald Trump until the president and the vice president and you pick a different word to describe Trump other than ‘threat’?” Fox Ne…

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Obviously they have no concern for Trump's safety.

Vambram · Sep 18, 2024

Valletta said:
Karine Jean-Pierre says it’s OK to call Trump a ‘threat’ to democracy despite murder plots: ‘Jan. 6! Jan. 6! Jan. 6!’

“How many more assassination attempts on Donald Trump until the president and the vice president and you pick a different word to describe Trump other than ‘threat’?” Fox Ne…

nypost.com

Obviously they have no concern for Trump's safety.

Agreed.
And also the Democratic Party really appears to believe the extreme rhetoric they have been saying about Donald Trump and America first, constitutional conservatives.

Hammster · Sep 18, 2024

There’s a lot of folks on the left using similar language.

iluvatar5150 · Sep 18, 2024

Valletta said:
“It’s been only two days since somebody allegedly tried to kill Donald Trump again and you’re here at the podium at the White House briefing room calling him a threat,” Doocy said. “How many more assassination attempts on Donald Trump until the president and the vice president and you pick a different word to describe Trump other than ‘threat’?”

Karine Jean-Pierre says it’s OK to call Trump a ‘threat’ to democracy despite murder plots: ‘Jan. 6! Jan. 6! Jan. 6!’

“How many more assassination attempts on Donald Trump until the president and the vice president and you pick a different word to describe Trump other than ‘threat’?” Fox Ne…

nypost.com

Obviously they have no concern for Trump's safety.

"Threat to democracy" is a factually accurate way of describing someone who tried to steal an election.

Vambram · Sep 18, 2024

iluvatar5150 said:
"Threat to democracy" is a factually accurate way of describing someone who tried to steal an election.

smh

He tried using constitutionally legal methods to contest the election results. But, the liberals appear that they are not ever going to believe that.

The IbanezerScrooge · Sep 18, 2024

They're just trying to quash all criticism of convicted felon Trump because they know how bad he really is for the country, but how good his administration would be for the rich.

Vambram · Sep 18, 2024

The IbanezerScrooge said:
They're just trying to quash all criticism of convicted felon Trump because they know how bad he really is for the country, but how good his administration would be for the rich.

I am not rich at all, but the middle class tax cuts and the booming economy during Trump's administration were a godsend for me and my family.

The IbanezerScrooge · Sep 18, 2024

Vambram said:
smh

He tried using constitutionally legal methods to contest the election results. But, the liberals appear that they are not ever going to believe that.

Fake electors are not "constitutionally legal" methods of contesting election results. Inciting supporters to storm the Capitol with the express intent to stop the counting of electoral votes and threating to hang the Vice President and other members of congress on the literal gallows they constructed outside is not "constitutionally legal" methods.

Always in His Presence · Sep 18, 2024

iluvatar5150 said:
"Threat to democracy" is a factually accurate way of describing someone who tried to steal an election.

That makes it ok to repeat political rhetoric that endangers his life,

He is worthy of a violent death?

Always in His Presence · Sep 18, 2024

The IbanezerScrooge said:
They're just trying to quash all criticism of convicted felon Trump because they know how bad he really is for the country, but how good his administration would be for the rich.

That’s right! Imprison him or have him assassinated! Now that is the American way!

iluvatar5150 · Sep 18, 2024

Vambram said:
smh

He tried using constitutionally legal methods to contest the election results.

No, filing fraudulent documents is not "constitutionally legal." That's why are there prosecutions happening in five separate states against some 50-odd defendants, not including Trump himself (who's also got a case going in federal court.

Trump fake electors plot - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

But, the liberals appear that they are not ever going to believe that.

That's because it isn't true and we haven't been hoodwinked by his fraud.

iluvatar5150 · Sep 18, 2024

hislegacy said:
That makes it ok to repeat political rhetoric that endangers his life,

Calling him a "threat to democracy" is not "political rhetoric." It is a factual statement about his past criminal behaviors and potential (arguably likely) future behavior. Applying that label to him is no different than the Right labeling Hillary or Hunter or any of a number of people as "criminal."

He is worthy of a violent death?

If I'd wanted to say that, I would have.

Vambram · Sep 18, 2024

iluvatar5150 said:
No, filing fraudulent documents is not "constitutionally legal." That's why are there prosecutions happening in five separate states against some 50-odd defendants, not including Trump himself (who's also got a case going in federal court.

Trump fake electors plot - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That's because it isn't true and we haven't been hoodwinked by his fraud.

I disagree with the liberal premise of your argument.

iluvatar5150 · Sep 18, 2024

Vambram said:
I disagree with the liberal premise of your argument.

The "liberal premise" that laws exist and that it's illegal to violate them?

Always in His Presence · Sep 18, 2024

iluvatar5150 said:
Calling him a "threat to democracy" is not "political rhetoric."

Yes it is.

Without a charge and conviction it cannot be factual.

Here’s where you bring up the charges that have nothing to do with Jan 6.

What you do have are. Very strong opinions on both sides.

What you do have is a whole lot of pearl clutching and emotionalism shouting 24/7 for almost 4 years the same bi line.

What do have is a statement repeated hundreds of thousands of times that has the propensity to cause the man’s violent death. Somehow that is justified.

No it is not.

Always in His Presence · Sep 18, 2024

Valletta said:
“It’s been only two days since somebody allegedly tried to kill Donald Trump again and you’re here at the podium at the White House briefing room calling him a threat,” Doocy said. “How many more assassination attempts on Donald Trump until the president and the vice president and you pick a different word to describe Trump other than ‘threat’?”

Karine Jean-Pierre says it’s OK to call Trump a ‘threat’ to democracy despite murder plots: ‘Jan. 6! Jan. 6! Jan. 6!’

“How many more assassination attempts on Donald Trump until the president and the vice president and you pick a different word to describe Trump other than ‘threat’?” Fox Ne…

nypost.com

Obviously they have no concern for Trump's safety.

Shame on them for promoting violence on a political opponent. And promoting the greatest division this country has seen in over 140 years.

Aldebaran · Sep 18, 2024

hislegacy said:
That’s right! Imprison him or have him assassinated! Now that is the American way!

Hey, it works for Russia, so why wouldn't the current occupants of the White House make excuses and for it or trivialize it?
I only wonder what they'd say if an assassination attempt were successful. Will they say, "Well, he was a threat to democracy, so let's just turn the page and begin a new chapter"? I wouldn't doubt it.
A good percentage of people apparently would be happy if Trump was killed, and guess which side of the political spectrum they're on.

17% Say America Would Be Better Off If Trump Had Been Killed

The desensitization of some Americans following the second assassination of former President Trump is alarming. Seventeen percent (17%) of voters believe America would have been better off if former President Trump had been killed in last week's attempted assassination.That figure includes 28%...

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Aldebaran · Sep 18, 2024

iluvatar5150 said:
Calling him a "threat to democracy" is not "political rhetoric." It is a factual statement about his past criminal behaviors and potential (arguably likely) future behavior. Applying that label to him is no different than the Right labeling Hillary or Hunter or any of a number of people as "criminal."

If he's elected, it would be through the democratic process. How is that a threat to democracy?
The real threat is to try to prevent that from happening, especially through misinformation, lawfare and assassination attempts.

iluvatar5150 · Sep 18, 2024

hislegacy said:
Without a charge and conviction it cannot be factual.

That's ridiculous and you know that's not how that works. Al Capone was never convicted of anything violent - did that mean that we wasn't a threat to anybody? Of course not. Without a charge and a conviction, Trump can't be punished by the judicial system. That doesn't mean that we can't point out what he obviously did and the risks posed by it.

Here’s where you bring up the charges that have nothing to do with Jan 6.

If I'd wanted to make reference to his supporters' rioting on Jan 6, I would have. But I didn't. One can ignore that event entirely and still make a successful case that, by virtue of encouraging and/or engaging in criminally fraudulent activity in the pursuit of stealing the 2020 election from the rightful winner, Joe Biden, Trump is a threat to democracy in the US.

What you do have is a whole lot of pearl clutching and emotionalism shouting 24/7 for almost 4 years the same bi line.

No, what I have are five ongoing state criminal prosecutions as well as a federal prosecution.

What do have is a statement repeated hundreds of thousands of times that has the propensity to cause the man’s violent death. Somehow that is justified.

Somehow it's justified on your end to excuse it and pretend as if it didn't happen. I'm not calling for anybody to hurt Trump; I'm just trying to remind them of one more reason to not vote for him.

iluvatar5150 · Sep 18, 2024

Aldebaran said:
If he's elected, it would be through the democratic process. How is that a threat to democracy?
The real threat is to try to prevent that from happening, especially through misinformation, lawfare and assassination attempts.

The threat isn't if he wins; it's if he loses.

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