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When humans can live forever, will people still follow Jesus?

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One of the goals of life-extension advocates is the ability to ultimately make humans immortal through technological means. Numerous scientists have promoted various pathways and initiatives toward these ends. But, from a theological perspective, if technological immortality can be achieved, will people still follow Jesus?

While most people believe that they will ultimately die, there are increasing efforts to extend human life and ultimately achieve human immortality. Aubrey de Grey, for example, is a biomedical gerontologist who cofounded the SENS Research Foundation which focuses on research aimed at repairing the cellular and molecular damage that accumulates with aging. In the book Ending Aging, de Grey outlines his theories on how science can be used to halt the aging process, making it possible for humans to live indefinitely.

In a similar vein, billionaire entrepreneur and venture capitalist Peter Thiel is interested in extending human life and has invested in various technologies aimed at achieving this goal. While not as publicly focused on immortality as others, his investments reflect a commitment to pushing the boundaries of human lifespan. Thiel has invested in companies like Calico (Founded by Google/Alphabet) and the Methuselah Foundation, which supports research into extending human life. Thiel has publicly stated that he views death as a problem that can and should be solved through technology, and he has used his wealth to support initiatives aimed at radical life extension.

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Even if technology like that occurred, would they still be considered human or a robot? I'm no moral theologian, so I don't know the answer.
 
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I'm no theologian but I believe that "eating of the tree of Life." in this sinful world in our sinful condition would not only be a hell on earth but would also lead people to believe that they are their own God. Worship of technology. I also personally believe that that is the era if that happens that the Second Coming will occur.
 
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One of the goals of life-extension advocates is the ability to ultimately make humans immortal through technological means. Numerous scientists have promoted various pathways and initiatives toward these ends. But, from a theological perspective, if technological immortality can be achieved, will people still follow Jesus?

While most people believe that they will ultimately die, there are increasing efforts to extend human life and ultimately achieve human immortality. Aubrey de Grey, for example, is a biomedical gerontologist who cofounded the SENS Research Foundation which focuses on research aimed at repairing the cellular and molecular damage that accumulates with aging. In the book Ending Aging, de Grey outlines his theories on how science can be used to halt the aging process, making it possible for humans to live indefinitely.

In a similar vein, billionaire entrepreneur and venture capitalist Peter Thiel is interested in extending human life and has invested in various technologies aimed at achieving this goal. While not as publicly focused on immortality as others, his investments reflect a commitment to pushing the boundaries of human lifespan. Thiel has invested in companies like Calico (Founded by Google/Alphabet) and the Methuselah Foundation, which supports research into extending human life. Thiel has publicly stated that he views death as a problem that can and should be solved through technology, and he has used his wealth to support initiatives aimed at radical life extension.

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Our true immortality lies not in scientific breakthroughs, but in our relationship with God.

The desire to extend life is understandable, even admirable in its way. It speaks to our innate recognition of the preciousness of existence. However, we must be cautious not to confuse longevity with the eternal life promised by Christ. Our earthly bodies are temporary vessels; our souls are what truly endure.

The fixation on avoiding death can be a manifestation of deep-seated fears and insecurities. It may reflect a lack of faith in what lies beyond, or a reluctance to confront our own mortality. Yet, it is often through accepting our finite nature that we find the greatest meaning and purpose in life.

History teaches us that technological advancements, while often beneficial, can also lead us astray from our spiritual path if we place too much faith in them. The story of humanity is replete with examples of those who sought immortality through worldly means, only to find that true fulfillment comes from a life lived in service and love.
 
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I think events will take this wishful thinking out of our hands. I believe God is going to drive us off the planet, and when he does it will be so difficult that survivors won't have the time or resources to fool around with eternal biological life.

That's my odd opinion.

Those who have died and put their bodies into deep freeze would have found out whether God exists or not. One thing we can be absolutely certain about is that they won't be coming back.

Hebrews 9:27 NIV "Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment ..."

They've already been judged.

Anyway who'd want to live forever in this world?
 
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