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Harris - under-performing Hillary Clinton by this same time in her opposition to Donald Trump.

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Harris - under-performing Hillary Clinton by this same time in her opposition to Donald Trump.


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Not making any predictions here - but it is interesting what the bulk of the news is not reporting so far.
 
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Harris - under-performing Hillary Clinton by this same time in her opposition to Donald Trump.


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Not making any predictions here - but it is interesting what the bulk of the news is not reporting so far.
I don’t know what metric they’re using to say that she’s polling below Hillary in 2016, but this looks to me like she’s polling ahead of Hillary:

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Harris - under-performing Hillary Clinton by this same time in her opposition to Donald Trump.


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Not making any predictions here - but it is interesting what the bulk of the news is not reporting so far.
From those graphs, it seems like she is doing "alright", as one might say. Harris and Hillary have somewhat similar performance, at roughly 45% approval ratings from those graphs. A 1-2% discrepancy is pretty small, my brother.

But hey, I am probably gonna go 3rd party, so none of these graphs matter as much.
 
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I don’t know what metric they’re using to say that she’s polling below Hillary in 2016, but this looks to me like she’s polling ahead of Hillary:

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In the individual swing state polls, harris is ahead but equal or less than the amount hillary was. You are right though in the national poll Harris is above where Hillary was.
 
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I'm not sure how meaningful the OP is, even if we accept it as true. The issue is, in these next couple of months in 2016, the FBI announced they had reopened investigations into Clinton, which caused her poll numbers to drop. Since I don't expect any announcement of an investigation into Harris prior to the election, any comparison of Harris to Clinton's polling doesn't work.
 
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Harris in Pittsburgh Penn -- two days ago at rally -

about 250 people present --

Where’d you get a headcount? I skimmed through and the widest shot I found (around 24:30) only showed the first row of tables. The bleachers behind her had about 45 people.
 
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Harris in Pittsburgh Penn -- two days ago at rally -

about 250 people present --


Where’d you get a headcount? I skimmed through and the widest shot I found (around 24:30) only showed the first row of tables. The bleachers behind her had about 45 people.
They slipped and allowed one camera shot from the back of the room - large round tables used to fill the room with just a few less than 200 people present at the tables - approx.

I take that back - there could have been 300 people in that room based on the one shot they allowed to go out at the end of the vid/clip

So then tight camera shots in general and crows sounds like there are 25 people in a rather small room

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PBS keeps the angle tight so it looks and sounds like 30 people in a crowded elevator in Pittsburgh

hmmm that video appears to have been edited to cut out the wide shot at the end


here is another vid - by C-Span and 5:05 does have a wide shot showing the room of about 300 for that same Pittsburgh rally.

 
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They slipped and allowed one camera shot from the back of the room - large round tables used to fill the room with just a few less than 200 people present at the tables - approx.

So then tight camera shots in general and crows sounds like there are 25 people in a rather small room

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PBS keeps the angle tight so it looks and sounds like 30 people in a crowded elevator in Pittsburgh
Do you have a time stamp of that wide shot? I only saw a couple that showed the first row. And I don't care enough to watch the whole thing in real time. Either way, it does look like a smaller room.
 
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Do you have a time stamp of that wide shot? I only saw a couple that showed the first row. And I don't care enough to watch the whole thing in real time. Either way, it does look like a smaller room.
See the update in this post #10

I updated it to note that it looks like about 300 people in the room from the wide shot they give for a brief second - of the entire room at the end.
 
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See the update in this post #10

I updated it to note that it looks like about 300 people in the room from the wide shot they give for a brief second - of the entire room at the end.
Thanks. Based on my experiences in churches of around that size, I’d expect they could probably get about 600 in there, but the tables throw it off a bit. Either way, not a big room.
 
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Trump has 58% chance of winning electoral college according to current poll.

from: MSN: www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/top-pollster-finds-trump-gaining-momentum-against-harris-with-58-chance-of-winning-2024-race

"Former President Donald Trump’s chances of winning the 2024 election have surged in the last month while Vice President Kamala Harris has struggled to find “a 2nd gear,” according to polling guru Nate Silver.

"The data analyst and founder of FiveThirtyEight revealed Wednesday that his presidential race model now indicates that Trump has a 58.2% chance at winning the Electoral College in November compared to Harris’ 41.6% chance.

“Trump’s chances of winning are his highest since July 30,” Silver wrote

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nate-silver-s-election-model-shows-donald-trump-surging

"Despite Vice President Kamala Harris' consistent string of polling victories since entering the 2024 race, Silver's forecast shows Trump having a higher chance of securing the 270 electoral votes needed to win his reelection bid, putting Trump's chances of victory at 58.2 percent as of Wednesday. Harris, in comparison, has a 41.6 percent chance of winning in November, according to the latest Silver Bulletin."

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"We have all seen the viral videos, even from the Democratic National Convention, of delegates being asked what their favorite Harris policy is, only to stare off into the distance, looking for an answer that isn’t there as if they had been asked to conjugate some word in Ancient Greek"
 
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