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What is the greatest threat to the church in our generation?

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tdidymas said:
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I have a list of three or four things that could be a threat to the church in the 21st century: Politicians (from both sides, especially the far-left and far-right), fundamentalist pastors/priests (including folks who twist and cherry pick the Bible verses), and the entertainment industry.

What do you guys/gals think?
 
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Growing apathy for one's neighbor?
 
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Churches tend to be communities that agree with a pastor, so dialogue on issues is difficult. A house divided.

(the threats don't matter since communication is greatly obscured)
 
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Even if these scriptures are talking about the tribulation as some suggest, the affects of sin and the world system are hurting the faith and love of many now. I pray we can all find a refuge in God and be strong to the end.

Matthew 24:12 (KJV)
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Luke 18:8 (KJV)
8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
 
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tdidymas said:
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Christians.
 
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BTW, according to the lastest Barna report, only 37% of all pastors in the US have a Biblical worldview. Interview here:
This is interesting, since it was said in 2004 it was 50%. It indicates we are approaching the last of the last days, since Paul prophesied a major apostasy in the end times. We're seeing it right before our eyes.

I recommend this documentary:
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Enemies Within the Church-DVD - Olive Tree Ministries Store

Does Evil Exist? What if the evil we never acknowledge has infiltrated the Church, twisted the Gospel, and exploited otherwise well-meaning Christians for its own dark purposes? Enemies Within: The Church heralds a clarion call for Christians to turn away from popular, yet errant beliefs held...
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I've seen it twice, and consider it important education for all Christians in the US. There are maybe 2 or 3 statements in the whole 2 hr 12 min. documentary that I questioned. Here is the trailer:

Here is a mildly opposing review of the film:
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‘Enemies Within the Church’ Targets Christian Institutions as Marxist, Names SBC Leaders

The documentary film names as “enemies" many influential evangelical institutions, as well as a diverse group of individuals, from Bill Johnson to Albert Mohler.
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tdidymas said:
BTW, according to the lastest Barna report, only 37% of all pastors in the US have a Biblical worldview. Interview here:
This is interesting, since it was said in 2004 it was 50%. It indicates we are approaching the last of the last days, since Paul prophesied a major apostasy in the end times. We're seeing it right before our eyes.

I recommend this documentary:
store.olivetreeviews.org

Enemies Within the Church-DVD - Olive Tree Ministries Store

Does Evil Exist? What if the evil we never acknowledge has infiltrated the Church, twisted the Gospel, and exploited otherwise well-meaning Christians for its own dark purposes? Enemies Within: The Church heralds a clarion call for Christians to turn away from popular, yet errant beliefs held...
store.olivetreeviews.org store.olivetreeviews.org
I've seen it twice, and consider it important education for all Christians in the US. There are maybe 2 or 3 statements in the whole 2 hr 12 min. documentary that I questioned. Here is the trailer:

Here is a mildly opposing review of the film:
churchleaders.com

‘Enemies Within the Church’ Targets Christian Institutions as Marxist, Names SBC Leaders

The documentary film names as “enemies" many influential evangelical institutions, as well as a diverse group of individuals, from Bill Johnson to Albert Mohler.
churchleaders.com churchleaders.com
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Yep, we are in the end times. Churches focus on spreading both far-left and far-right politics instead of Biblical content, and many churches in 2024 are sadly open to the woke agenda.
 
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tdidymas said:
BTW, according to the lastest Barna report, only 37% of all pastors in the US have a Biblical worldview.
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I'd be willing to bet they define "Biblical worldview" in narrow and contested terms.
 
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tdidymas said:
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They lost the plot 2,000 years ago.
 
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I'd be willing to bet they define "Biblical worldview" in narrow and contested terms.
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A Biblical worldview is one in which decisions are made based on what the Bible says.
 
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A Biblical worldview is one in which decisions are made based on what the Bible says.
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And yet two people can make different decisions, both based on " what the Bible says."
 
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... I know there's many choices to pick from by which to answer the OP question, but I'm still going with the old-standby of "Satan" as my answer. :sorry:
 
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Paidiske said:
I'd be willing to bet they define "Biblical worldview" in narrow and contested terms.
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From here: Competing Worldviews Influence Today’s Christians - Barna Group

Barna defines “biblical worldview” as believing that absolute moral truth exists; the Bible is totally accurate in all of the principles it teaches; Satan is considered to be a real being or force, not merely symbolic; a person cannot earn their way into Heaven by trying to be good or do good works; Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth; and God is the all-knowing, all-powerful creator of the world who still rules the universe today.
 
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Tinker Grey said:
From here: Competing Worldviews Influence Today’s Christians - Barna Group

Barna defines “biblical worldview” as believing that absolute moral truth exists; the Bible is totally accurate in all of the principles it teaches; Satan is considered to be a real being or force, not merely symbolic; a person cannot earn their way into Heaven by trying to be good or do good works; Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth; and God is the all-knowing, all-powerful creator of the world who still rules the universe today.
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I'd want to see the actual questions they're asking, though. For example, they cite as demonstrating a belief in karma, the idea that people will receive good if they do good; but that could also draw on (for example) St. Paul saying that we reap what we sow.
 
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timothyu said:
<snipped> that church sold out the Kingdom and rejoined the world of man 1700 years ago and has not repented yet.
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Christians.
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Churches tend to be communities that agree with a pastor<snip>
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Seems like neither side has a clue what Jesus was about. But this of course is typical of US thinking.
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Satan: true as long as its not a cop out for lazy believers who refuse to examine themselves, and find him within themselves.
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... I know there's many choices to pick from by which to answer the OP question, but I'm still going with the old-standby of "Satan" as my answer. :sorry:
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