Massive protests expected at Chicago’s DNC; police are ready

HARK! · Aug 17, 2024

“We’re not going to allow you to riot,” Police Superintendent Larry Snelling told business leaders and elected officials at a downtown event Monday. “Protesting and rioting are two different things. You have the right to protest, but there will be no rioting tolerated.”

Massive protests expected at Chicago’s DNC; police are ready

Chicago officials expect swarms of demonstrators to march for and against various issues beginning Monday when the Democratic National Convention kicks off in the Windy City.

www.washingtontimes.com

I'm still confused. What exactly distinguishes a riot from a mostly peaceful protest?

Maybe a Democrat can explain this to me in more detail.

Fantine · Aug 18, 2024

Do you have an unbiased report from a better media source?

Is the security any different from other marches if that size? The March for Life in Washington, for example?

Security also protects peaceful marches from potential infiltrates and disruptors.

Most peaceful protesters have good intentions.

They are protesting on issues on which Democrats have better solutions. They are protesting because if an authoritarian dictator wins, it may be the last free speech they'll have.

Note no one is calling the Guard--as Project 2025 proposes.

We believe in free speech and public safety.

HARK! · Aug 18, 2024

Fantine said:
Do you have an unbiased report from a better media source?

I quoted the Police Superintendent.

Fantine said:
Is the security any different from other marches if that size?

Is it?

Fantine said:
Most peaceful protesters have good intentions.

I'm still not clear on the difference between a mostly peaceful protest and a riot.

Fantine said:
They are protesting on issues on which Democrats have better solutions.

They are protesting at the DNC.

Fantine said:
They are protesting because if an authoritarian dictator wins, it may be the last free speech they'll have.

I understand that Harris wasn't duly elected as the Democratic candidate; but are you suggesting that the DNC might nominate a Authoritarian Dictator instead?

Fantine said:
We believe in free speech and public safety.

Who exactly are this "we?" Do you all consider riots to be an expression of free speech? Do you all consider mostly peaceful protest to be safe? If so, safe for whom?

I'm more confused now than I was before

Apple Sky · Aug 18, 2024

HARK! said:
I'm still confused. What exactly distinguishes a riot from a mostly peaceful protest?

They hate mass gathering peaceful or not, so they will always have their insiders to cause havoc which gives them the perfect excuse to disperse the crowd & call it a riot.

Bradskii · Aug 18, 2024

HARK! said:
I'm still confused. What exactly distinguishes a riot from a mostly peaceful protest?

As long as the Police Chief knows you won't have to worry about it.

Servus · Aug 18, 2024

HARK! said:
“We’re not going to allow you to riot,” Police Superintendent Larry Snelling told business leaders and elected officials at a downtown event Monday. “Protesting and rioting are two different things. You have the right to protest, but there will be no rioting tolerated.”

Massive protests expected at Chicago’s DNC; police are ready

Chicago officials expect swarms of demonstrators to march for and against various issues beginning Monday when the Democratic National Convention kicks off in the Windy City.

www.washingtontimes.com

I'm still confused. What exactly distinguishes a riot from a mostly peaceful protest?

Maybe a Democrat can explain this to me in more detail.

I think it's anything beyond five police cars being set on fire constitutes a riot.

Ana the Ist · Aug 18, 2024

HARK! said:
I'm still confused. What exactly distinguishes a riot from a mostly peaceful protest?

The target. Also...the skin color of majority of the protesters.

Fantine · Aug 18, 2024

HARK! said:
Do you all consider mostly peaceful protest to be safe? If so, safe for whom?

I might be suggesting that it is the biased source, Washington Times, that is characterizing demonstrations as "riots."

Any large gathering has the potential to turn into a riot. Look at what happened at the peaceful gathering (?) on 1/6/2021.

Yeshua HaDerekh · Aug 18, 2024

Fantine said:
We believe in free speech and public safety.

yes...just like all the cities that "we" burned down...so glad that "we", Antifa and BLM care so much for free speech and public safety

Fantine · Aug 18, 2024

By holding Floyd's murderers accountable, and by better training for police and recruitment of minority officers, BLM is unlikely to protest.
As for Antifa, it's a verbal characterization, not a movement.

Bradskii · Aug 18, 2024

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
yes...just like all the cities that "we" burned down...so glad that "we", Antifa and BLM care so much for free speech and public safety

The 'we' is the set of people that would decry those using the argument for free speech as an excuse for violence.

Servus · Aug 18, 2024

Fantine said:
By holding Floyd's murderers accountable, and by better training for police and recruitment of minority officers, BLM is unlikely to protest.
As for Antifa, it's a verbal characterization, not a movement.

Artifa is a left-wing terrorist organization.

Always in His Presence · Aug 18, 2024

Fantine said:
By holding Floyd's murderers accountable, and by better training for police and recruitment of minority officers, BLM is unlikely to protest.
As for Antifa, it's a verbal characterization, not a movement.

Well, both leftist verbal characterizations got sued almost out of existence for the billions of dollars in damages they peacefully created.

Bradskii · Aug 18, 2024

hislegacy said:
Well, both leftist verbal characterizations got sued almost out of existence for the billions of dollars in damages they peacefully created.

From here: https://www.npr.org/2020/06/09/8732...-justice-department-cases-brought-over-unrest

'On top of that, experts said antifa isn't even a group; it's more of a diffuse movement of leftists who share a similar ideology in opposition to fascism.

Barr described antifa as a "very loosely organized group" with a "sort of unique or unusual system of communication and organization." On the question of hierarchy, he said that "there are people who could be characterized as leaders in any given situation."

FBI Director Christopher Wray, in sworn testimony before congressional lawmakers, has said the bureau considers antifa "more of an ideology than an organization." He has repeatedly said the FBI doesn't investigate ideology; it investigates violence.'

Who got sued?

Always in His Presence · Aug 18, 2024

Bradskii said:
From here: https://www.npr.org/2020/06/09/8732...-justice-department-cases-brought-over-unrest

'On top of that, experts said antifa isn't even a group; it's more of a diffuse movement of leftists who share a similar ideology in opposition to fascism.

Barr described antifa as a "very loosely organized group" with a "sort of unique or unusual system of communication and organization." On the question of hierarchy, he said that "there are people who could be characterized as leaders in any given situation."

FBI Director Christopher Wray, in sworn testimony before congressional lawmakers, has said the bureau considers antifa "more of an ideology than an organization." He has repeatedly said the FBI doesn't investigate ideology; it investigates violence.'

Yes, I am familiar with the propaganda of denial.

Here is the 'not even a group's flag:

Here are the antifa thugs in uniforms with shields marked with their logo

Here they are marching under their flag

Here is how you can donate to them

The International Anti-Fascist Defence Fund

The International Anti-Fascist Defence Fund provides direct, immediate support to anti-fascists and anti-racists anywhere in the world, whenever they find themselves in a difficult situation as a result of their stand against hate. Whether it’s replacing damaged/stolen property, paying medical...

actionnetwork.org

Not too bad for something not even a group - huh?

Bradskii said:
Who got sued?

Google will help you increase in areas of knowledge you do not currently have

Andy Ngo scores legal win over Portland Antifa as judge awards $300K in damages

An Oregon judge ruled in favor of independent journalist Andy Ngo, ordering three defendants to pay $300,000 in damages for an alleged assault by Rose City Antifa at a 2019 protest.

www.foxnews.com

Criminal cases also:

A criminal conspiracy case against a group of activists in San Diego is headed toward a trial that could prove crucial in defining the much-misunderstood political movement known as Antifa.

There are more, but I'll let you explore - have fun! Read, expand the knowledge base...

Bradskii · Aug 18, 2024

hislegacy said:
Yes, I am familiar with the propaganda of denial.

Again...who got sued?

HARK! · Aug 18, 2024

Bradskii said:
"sort of unique or unusual system of communication and organization."

Terrorist cells have sort of unique or unusual system of communication and organization..

Bradskii said:
organized group

Bradskii said:
isn't even a group

Left Wing language is confusing.

Maybe the confusing language is why Left Wing cities have such high crime rates.

Bradskii said:
FBI Director Christopher Wray, in sworn testimony before congressional lawmakers

Rep. Matt Gaetz: FBI Director Wray Lied Under Oath

iluvatar5150 · Aug 18, 2024

Fantine said:
Do you have an unbiased report from a better media source?

Is the security any different from other marches if that size? The March for Life in Washington, for example?

Security also protects peaceful marches from potential infiltrates and disruptors.

Most peaceful protesters have good intentions.

They are protesting on issues on which Democrats have better solutions. They are protesting because if an authoritarian dictator wins, it may be the last free speech they'll have.

Note no one is calling the Guard--as Project 2025 proposes.

We believe in free speech and public safety.

I can’t speak to what’s typical for a political convention, but the March for Life is a nothingburger. Cops block traffic and that’s kind of it.

HARK! · Aug 18, 2024

Fantine said:
I might be suggesting that it is the biased source, Washington Times, that is characterizing demonstrations as "riots."

Maybe the WT was characterizing riotous demonstrations.

However, I'm still confused about the Left's distinction between mostly peaceful protests and riots.

Maybe you can help me make up some flash cards for review.

Peaceful protest, or riot?

Peaceful protest, or riot?

Peaceful protest, or riot?

Peaceful protest, or riot?

Larniavc · Aug 18, 2024

HARK! said:
“We’re not going to allow you to riot,” Police Superintendent Larry Snelling told business leaders and elected officials at a downtown event Monday. “Protesting and rioting are two different things. You have the right to protest, but there will be no rioting tolerated.”

Massive protests expected at Chicago’s DNC; police are ready

Chicago officials expect swarms of demonstrators to march for and against various issues beginning Monday when the Democratic National Convention kicks off in the Windy City.

www.washingtontimes.com

I'm still confused. What exactly distinguishes a riot from a mostly peaceful protest?

Maybe a Democrat can explain this to me in more detail.

How big are you projecting these protests to be?

Massive protests expected at Chicago’s DNC; police are ready

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