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Is God a Fan of Wrestling?

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The word “wrestle” is in Ephesians 6:12. If read by itself, that Verse sounds like a riddle, making one wonder why ‘Who are we?’ isn’t added to the end of it. But if you read the three Verses before it, one would know who we are.

Since, according to many versions of the Bible, 2 Timothy 3:16 means that all Scripture is the Breath of God, and even accepting that other versions have the Verse saying that all Scripture is written via God’s inspiration, the word “wrestle” is part of God’s Lexicon one way or the other.

Can you think of a more appropriate word to describe our relationship with Satan? Satan is evil in God’s Eyes, while we strive to be good because of our faith and love in God and our neighbor. But we find that the longer we live on earth, the more we realize that things in black and white are overpowered by things in the grey area. It’s not always easy to determine what is good and what is evil, or, in terms of earthly logic, what is right and what is wrong.

A simple question whose answer is complicated: If the ends justify the means, and the ends happens to be right, does that mean what we do to bring us to the ends is right as well? Would God forgive us if we did something wrong but in doing so, accomplished something that was right? Take for example what the U.S. did to put an end to World War II against the Japanese. The U.S. dropped an atomic bomb on two cities in Japan, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians, men, women and children who at that moment were not a threat to the U.S. That’s pre-meditated murder, which is forbidden by the Sixth Commandment.

In and of itself, there wouldn’t be a righteous person on earth who wouldn’t think that what the U.S. did was pure evil. But in doing what the U.S. did, it ended World War II with Japan, thus saving the lives of half a million people from both sides who were engaged in fighting eachother, enabling those with families and other aspirations to continue their lives along with others who weren’t involved with the fighting, and being productive members of society. Is that not a righteous end to the evil which brought it about?

Seems that Satan must’ve had a good laugh at our expense as he continues to try to be a thorn in God’s Side. The presence of Satan on earth is forever causing us to think whether what we did, are doing or are planning to do would be good in God’s Eyes or would be evil that Satan would approve of.

There isn’t just Satan to contend with. We have to contend with his influence over those who would deliberately or invariably act in his name; those who cannot resist the metaphysical, symbolic and spirited forces emanating from Satan. If those same people were to act out of goodness, would we be concerned about their behavior? The problem with our fighting Satan is that no sooner does he and all the spirits and forces he conjures up ceases possessing a person upon their death, than he’s ready to move onto the next one as they’re born. It’s a never-ending battle we have with Satan. The wrestling part each of us is engaged in involves determining whether we are categorically doing something that is good or is evil; or whether the goal should be to do something which turns out to be good for others, even though the thing we immediately contemplate doing is evil in and of itself. In terms of wrestling, the world is a wrestling cage from which we can check out any time we want, but we can never leave. The wrestlers are us and evil, with one fall to each of us and no time limit.
 

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I didn't read your texts. But I'm going to provide an answer for the catchphrase, I mean your topic.

Well,
It was written in the Bible that God wrestled with Jacob.

Jacob Wrestles With God​

22 That night Jacob got up and took his two wives, his two female servants and his eleven sons and crossed the ford of the Jabbok. 23 After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions. 24 So Jacob was left alone, and a manwrestled with him till daybreak. 25 When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man. 26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”

But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.

28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,[f] because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”

29 Jacob said, “Please tell me your name.”

But he replied, “Why do you ask my name?” Then he blessed him there.

30 So Jacob called the place Peniel,[g] saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”
 
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The word “wrestle” is in Ephesians 6:12. If read by itself, that Verse sounds like a riddle, making one wonder why ‘Who are we?’ isn’t added to the end of it. But if you read the three Verses before it, one would know who we are.

Since, according to many versions of the Bible, 2 Timothy 3:16 means that all Scripture is the Breath of God, and even accepting that other versions have the Verse saying that all Scripture is written via God’s inspiration, the word “wrestle” is part of God’s Lexicon one way or the other.

Can you think of a more appropriate word to describe our relationship with Satan? Satan is evil in God’s Eyes, while we strive to be good because of our faith and love in God and our neighbor. But we find that the longer we live on earth, the more we realize that things in black and white are overpowered by things in the grey area. It’s not always easy to determine what is good and what is evil, or, in terms of earthly logic, what is right and what is wrong.

A simple question whose answer is complicated: If the ends justify the means, and the ends happens to be right, does that mean what we do to bring us to the ends is right as well? Would God forgive us if we did something wrong but in doing so, accomplished something that was right? Take for example what the U.S. did to put an end to World War II against the Japanese. The U.S. dropped an atomic bomb on two cities in Japan, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians, men, women and children who at that moment were not a threat to the U.S. That’s pre-meditated murder, which is forbidden by the Sixth Commandment.

In and of itself, there wouldn’t be a righteous person on earth who wouldn’t think that what the U.S. did was pure evil. But in doing what the U.S. did, it ended World War II with Japan, thus saving the lives of half a million people from both sides who were engaged in fighting eachother, enabling those with families and other aspirations to continue their lives along with others who weren’t involved with the fighting, and being productive members of society. Is that not a righteous end to the evil which brought it about?

Seems that Satan must’ve had a good laugh at our expense as he continues to try to be a thorn in God’s Side. The presence of Satan on earth is forever causing us to think whether what we did, are doing or are planning to do would be good in God’s Eyes or would be evil that Satan would approve of.

There isn’t just Satan to contend with. We have to contend with his influence over those who would deliberately or invariably act in his name; those who cannot resist the metaphysical, symbolic and spirited forces emanating from Satan. If those same people were to act out of goodness, would we be concerned about their behavior? The problem with our fighting Satan is that no sooner does he and all the spirits and forces he conjures up ceases possessing a person upon their death, than he’s ready to move onto the next one as they’re born. It’s a never-ending battle we have with Satan. The wrestling part each of us is engaged in involves determining whether we are categorically doing something that is good or is evil; or whether the goal should be to do something which turns out to be good for others, even though the thing we immediately contemplate doing is evil in and of itself. In terms of wrestling, the world is a wrestling cage from which we can check out any time we want, but we can never leave. The wrestlers are us and evil, with one fall to each of us and no time limit.
I wrestle with my sins, so yes, wrestling is part of the Bible. :) Sometimes, the world tries to get me, or I fall into the trap of sins, but God is the coach, and He can win my wrestling matches for me.
 
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You should know that Jacob could not overpower God in Genesis, despite the fact that God appeared to him in human form.
What now happens in Ephesians is the after-effects of what transpired in Genesis. At the end of the Genesis panorama, God blessed Jacob (Men) to wrestle with what we now have in Ephesians. I wish to say more but let me leave it here for now
The wrestling in Genesis 32:24 and Ephesians 6:12 are in to separate contexts.
 
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