Democratic News Media claims the Machine is now Exposed

BobRyan · Jul 14, 2024

MSN: opinion-democrats-are-staging-a-coup-by-the-elite-s-elite

Article claims that it is all out in the open now.

James Carville argues for the coup as the only option left given imploding situation among democrat voters and doners

MSN: James Carville says democrats-are-doing-exactly-what-donald-trump-wants

Interesting question put to Carville "how do you BYPASS VP Harris without losing a big chunk of the Democratic party?" - So basically that is the idea of don't back Biden and don't back Harris - pick someone else (at around 03:15 in that video) . WOW.

Next Question at 04::30 in the video - asks Carville "how do you persuade Joe Biden to step down?"
Ans: AT 05:00 Carville says "The doner class is shutting down.. I know these people... not only are they shutting down contributions to the Biden campaign they are shutting down contributions to the Senate Comittee... to the house committee.."

MSN: democrat-donors-are-withholding-90m-to-largest-pro-biden-super-pac-if-he-stays-on-ticket-report

The Barbarian · Aug 2, 2024

BobRyan said:
Next Question at 04::30 in the video - asks Carville "how do you persuade Joe Biden to step down?"
Ans: AT 05:00 Carville says "The doner class is shutting down.. I know these people... not only are they shutting down contributions to the Biden campaign they are shutting down contributions to the Senate Comittee... to the house committee.."

Kamala Harris smashes fundraising record with stunning $81 million haul over 24 hours

Kamala Harris smashes fundraising record with stunning $81 million haul over 24 hours

Kamala Harris is smashing fundraising records as the Democratic Party’s donors — big and small — open their wallets for the vice president in the immediate aftermath of President Joe Biden's stunning decision to step aside.

apnews.com

iarwain · Aug 4, 2024

There is a smell here, with the voters being bypassed and the party elite choosing the nominee. It also stinks that the voters made their preference known, but the Democrats didn't like the look of the polls, and decided to go with someone else. If they wanted Biden to step down, it should have been done before the primaries.

But the Machine that I see that is exposed is the news media's partnership with the Democrat party. It's nothing new, but we have seen them blatantly lie now to favor the Democrats in two consecutive elections (to be generous), and to watch them form up a united front in favor of Kamala is pretty interesting.

Ted-01 · Aug 4, 2024

iarwain said:
There is a smell here, with the voters being bypassed and the party elite choosing the nominee. It also stinks that the voters made their preference known, but the Democrats didn't like the look of the polls, and decided to go with someone else. If they wanted Biden to step down, it should have been done before the primaries.

But the Machine that I see that is exposed is the new media's partnership with the Democrat party. It's nothing new, but we have seen them blatantly lie now to favor the Democrats in two consecutive elections (to be generous), and to watch them form up a united front in favor of Kamala is pretty interesting.

I agree that "the machine" is exposed, but in my view, it's been there for a very long time now. The Left, however you might want to call them, have been doing social engineering since the 1930's... moving towards some form of socialism... and it's been talked about all those years too. The big problem has been that any talk about such things has just been labeled "Conspiracy Theory" and the convo gets shut down.

But as you say, now things are blatant. Still, the folks that follow left-leaning ideology are okay with it, even though they don't always seem to know what's going on, and on social media platforms like this, they even argue fiercely for their favorite people. Watching the form up behind Harris is indeed interesting, but to use that tired old colloquialism, it's like watching a train wreck. I think that they'll win the election... I'm concerned about what happens after, though.

iarwain · Aug 4, 2024

Ted-01 said:
it's like watching a train wreck. I think that they'll win the election... I'm concerned about what happens after, though.

I think it's too early to say they are going to win. Certainly too early to concede a loss. Harris is running on Biden's record, but she's further to the left of him, despite what she says. I don't fear Harris, but I am concerned about the Democratic machine - media, ground game, ballot harvesting. They are relentless, and ruthlessly effective.

Ted-01 · Aug 4, 2024

iarwain said:
I think it's too early to say they are going to win. Certainly too early to concede a loss. Harris is running on Biden's record, but she's further to the left of him, despite what she says. I don't fear Harris, but I am concerned about the Democratic machine - media, ground game, ballot harvesting. They are relentless, and ruthlessly effective.

If you could..., why do you have no fear?

See, (forgive the buzzwords) I'm concerned because the polarization and anger are glaring to me. People have always used rhetorical blustering and even played hardball in their ground game, but I see that it's much worse than ever before. I don't want to get into a discussion of end times/doomsday stuff... but things aren't good. Both sides are amped like I've never seen. The Dems don't seem to care if they're seen as going beyond the legal issues... IDK.

I'm not building a bunker yet, though, haha.

iarwain · Aug 4, 2024

Ted-01 said:
If you could..., why do you have no fear?

See, (forgive the buzzwords) I'm concerned because the polarization and anger are glaring to me. People have always used rhetorical blustering and even played hardball in their ground game, but I see that it's much worse than ever before.

I'm a Christian, so therein lies my faith and hope. We know the end times may come, and I believe we are instructed to pray we don't have to experience them. But we know at some point, God will likely turn our country over to the evils that are running rampant within it. We don't know when that will be, so all we can do is work and pray, but my faith is in Christ - He hasn't let me down yet. If I have to hunker down, I will. If it becomes a doomsday every man for himself type scenario, I doubt I will survive long.

Anyway, I know the anger and polarization is very disturbing. I was very disappointed recently when my best friend told me he wished that Crooks wouldn't have missed Trump. I knew he wasn't a fan of Trump's, but to be at the point of wishing someone dead, that's pretty sobering. Then I come back to this forum, and there's a notification at the top saying you can't say that you wish the guy hadn't missed Trump. And that really saddened me, because this is a Christian forum, so that probably means we have Christians here wishing death upon a candidate. Even though I know we have non-Christians come here. I thought it was really sad that had to be said on a Christian forum. Such is the toxicity and divide we face right now.

rturner76 · Aug 4, 2024

BobRyan said:
MSN: opinion-democrats-are-staging-a-coup-by-the-elite-s-elite

Article claims that it is all out in the open now.

James Carville argues for the coup as the only option left given imploding situation among democrat voters and doners

MSN: James Carville says democrats-are-doing-exactly-what-donald-trump-wants

Interesting question put to Carville "how do you BYPASS VP Harris without losing a big chunk of the Democratic party?" - So basically that is the idea of don't back Biden and don't back Harris - pick someone else (at around 03:15 in that video) . WOW.

Next Question at 04::30 in the video - asks Carville "how do you persuade Joe Biden to step down?"
Ans: AT 05:00 Carville says "The doner class is shutting down.. I know these people... not only are they shutting down contributions to the Biden campaign they are shutting down contributions to the Senate Comittee... to the house committee.."

MSN: democrat-donors-are-withholding-90m-to-largest-pro-biden-super-pac-if-he-stays-on-ticket-report

I am a staunch Democrat and I have to say that I also stopped donating. I would only contribute like $5 every now and then but it was something. Then they kept texting me these surveys and I would fill them out but the only way they would go through is if you made a donation. I got these surveys for three different sources and I wanted to answer the questions about what I think are important issues but time and time again, at the end of the survey they would ask for a donation. So when I would close the browser instead of donating, I would soon after get another text saying I never finished the survey and would I go back and fill it out.

It made me so angry that the answers of my survey(s) would not be accepted without a donation, I decided they would not get another penny from me. I was a very small doner but it was so annoying. I wonder if the larger doners feel the same way like all they want is money and don't actually care about what issues we Democrats feel passionate about.

They still have my vote because I'm basically voting against Trump. So I will vote for anyone who has a chance of beating him but yeah, annoyingly money hungry.

BobRyan · Aug 5, 2024

rturner76 said:
They still have my vote because I'm basically voting against Trump. So I will vote for anyone who has a chance of beating him but yeah, annoyingly money hungry.

This thread topic is essentially about the ditch-Biden campaign that the democrats got into while blaming conservative media for all the video clips showing that Biden had some cognative/aging issues that were affecting his job.

As for your "anyone but President Trump" - I do agree that we do see a lot of that in America.

iarwain said:
There is a smell here, with the voters being bypassed and the party elite choosing the nominee. It also stinks that the voters made their preference known, but the Democrats didn't like the look of the polls, and decided to go with someone else. If they wanted Biden to step down, it should have been done before the primaries.

But the Machine that I see that is exposed is the news media's partnership with the Democrat party. It's nothing new, but we have seen them blatantly lie now to favor the Democrats in two consecutive elections (to be generous), and to watch them form up a united front in favor of Kamala is pretty interesting.

Yeah I agree - that is pretty interesting to watch

The Barbarian said:
Kamala Harris smashes fundraising record with stunning $81 million haul over 24 hours

Kamala Harris smashes fundraising record with stunning $81 million haul over 24 hours

Kamala Harris is smashing fundraising records as the Democratic Party’s donors — big and small — open their wallets for the vice president in the immediate aftermath of President Joe Biden's stunning decision to step aside.

apnews.com

Yep - democratic donors -- after shutting down giving for about a month or two - came back strong once the party maneuvered Biden out of the race.

The Barbarian · Aug 5, 2024

iarwain said:
There is a smell here, with the voters being bypassed and the party elite choosing the nominee.

The polls show about 79% of democrats wanted Harris to be their candidate. A much smaller percentage of republicans did, of course. Both for the same reason.

And given the rise in enthusiasm among democrats, the smell from republicans objecting to the change has the odor of sour grapes.

iarwain · Aug 6, 2024

The Barbarian said:
The polls show about 79% of democrats wanted Harris to be their candidate. A much smaller percentage of republicans did, of course. Both for the same reason.

Well then, Biden should have dropped out before the primaries and let the voters choose the nominee. Instead, we were lied to all year (or four years) about the state of his health.

As a conservative, I don't see much difference between Biden and Harris as a nominee. She doesn't suffer the cognitive issues, but she is an unattractive candidate who is saddled with her record and the administration's record. She is also further to the left of Biden, which makes her more unattractive. She is getting a bump right now that will probably last through the convention, but that has certainly not been unexpected.

The Barbarian · Aug 6, 2024

iarwain said:
Well then, Biden should have dropped out before the primaries and let the voters choose the nominee.

But he didn't. So when he resigned, most delegates supported the person who was the preferences of about 80% of democrats. Which offended republicans. But apparently, republicans have no say in who the democrats nominate.

iarwain said:
Instead, we were lied to all year (or four years) about the state of his health.

Just a year ago, he was sharp enough to outsmart the House republicans in budget negotitations. So there is that.

iarwain said:
As a conservative, I don't see much difference between Biden and Harris as a nominee.

Doesn't seem to matter to the democrats. Go figure.

iarwain said:
She doesn't suffer the cognitive issues, but she is an unattractive candidate who is saddled with her record and the administration's record. She is also further to the left of Biden, which makes her more unattractive.

If so, I would think you'd be pleased with her as candidate. I'm picking up some inconsistency in your argument here...

iarwain said:
She is getting a bump right now that will probably last through the convention, but that has certainly not been unexpected.

Judging by the rising panic among Trump's handlers, it seems to have caught them off-guard.

JimR-OCDS · Aug 6, 2024

The Barbarian said:
The polls show about 79% of democrats wanted Harris to be their candidate. A much smaller percentage of republicans did, of course. Both for the same reason.

And given the rise in enthusiasm among democrats, the smell from republicans objecting to the change has the odor of sour grapes.

Just shows how little the Democrats care about democracy.

They'll choose the candidate they want to be elected president in 2024.

Merrill · Aug 7, 2024

The country has crossed over into a new age

The Democrats have discovered that utilizing the MSM, Online news sites, social media, and celebrities, they can simply install who they want into the Whitehouse.

Kamala gave a rally in Georgia, but many of the people there came because a popular rapper was set to perform after Kamala spoke. Tens of thousands of people filled the hall. It was all about "the feels" and "the vibe" and nothing of any substance was said by the VP. She smiled and blurted out some platitudes, and then the rapper came out and started twerking and singing about genitalia

the next day, the MSM showed photos of a packed hall and proclaimed Harris could take Georgia. The polls started moving in her direction

this is how it is going to go. Harris will give no interviews or press conferences, and probably won't even debate Trump. Kamala has no platform or policy objectives on her website. She has never won a nomination or national election. She can't even answer basic questions

but Taylor Swift will perform at the DNC and then embrace Harris. And then Kamala will win the Whitehouse with no agenda, no platform, and no plan.

We have two wars going on, and a potential third. The economy is going into recession. The Medicare trust fund will be bankrupt by 2028

but TikTok and far-left activists are going to install a woman with no experience and no platform into the Whitehouse

we don't need to worry about our Republic--we have already lost it.

iarwain · Aug 7, 2024

The Barbarian said:
Judging by the rising panic among Trump's handlers, it seems to have caught them off-guard.

I don't see any panic. Sounds like a left wing narrative to me.

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