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Why Trump Suddenly Thinks Picking J.D. Vance Was a Mistake

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Why Trump Suddenly Thinks Picking J.D. Vance Was a Mistake​

Joe Biden’s decision to drop out and endorse Kamala Harris to succeed him on the Democratic ticket has Donald Trump’s team scrambling​

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Why Trump Suddenly Thinks Picking J.D. Vance Was a Mistake

Joe Biden’s decision to drop out and endorse Kamala Harris to succeed him on the Democratic ticket has Donald Trump’s team scrambling.
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Not sure why Trump thought Vance was a good idea when Biden was still running.
 
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The Barbarian said:

Why Trump Suddenly Thinks Picking J.D. Vance Was a Mistake​

Joe Biden’s decision to drop out and endorse Kamala Harris to succeed him on the Democratic ticket has Donald Trump’s team scrambling​

newrepublic.com

Why Trump Suddenly Thinks Picking J.D. Vance Was a Mistake

Joe Biden’s decision to drop out and endorse Kamala Harris to succeed him on the Democratic ticket has Donald Trump’s team scrambling.
newrepublic.com newrepublic.com

Not sure why Trump thought Vance was a good idea when Biden was still running.
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Maybe Trump will switch VP choices.
Shouldn't be any more difficult than suddenly changing who the democrats can elect as president after the primaries showed the voters chose Biden, who then he had a disastrous first debate.
 
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Aldebaran said:
Maybe Trump will switch VP choices.
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When's the last time Trump admitted failure?

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Shouldn't be any more difficult than suddenly changing who the democrats can elect as president after the primaries showed the voters chose Biden, who then he had a disastrous first debate.
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Some far-right guys are looking into a lawsuit to force Biden to run, even if he doesn't want to.
 
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The Barbarian said:
When's the last time Trump admitted failure?
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Firing someone isn't admitting failure. It's simply making the necessary changes to increase the chance of success.

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Some far-right guys are looking into a lawsuit to force Biden to run, even if he doesn't want to.
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Or at least to give up the money that was raised when people thought he was going to run for president, rather than just hand it over to Harris.
 
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Aldebaran said:
Maybe Trump will switch VP choices.
Shouldn't be any more difficult than suddenly changing who the democrats can elect as president after the primaries showed the voters chose Biden, who then he had a disastrous first debate.
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The obvious difference of course is that the Republican National Convention has passed and Trump and Vance are official candidates, not just presumptive candidates.
 
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The obvious difference of course is that the Republican National Convention has passed and Trump and Vance are official candidates, not just presumptive candidates.
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I'm sure there are work-arounds in place. There would have to be since things can happen between a convention and the election. That assassination attempt is a reminder of that, and something similar could happen. Or someone gets into an accident, or gets sick and dies, etc.
 
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Vance would probably voluntarily drop out if he was a threat to the campaign. Could say he decided to devote more time to his family.
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Or might simply say he was chosen by Trump specifically to go against Biden/Harris, but now things have changed. Maybe Trump will pick a new VP to specifically go up against Harris/xxxxxx.
 
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Or at least to give up the money that was raised when people thought he was going to run for president, rather than just hand it over to Harris.
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Or maybe he had the kind of deal like Trump where he gets to use political donations for whatever he likes.
 
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The OP article and Atlantic companion piece, appears to just be hearsay. It seems to me this claim gets made every election. Trump made a mistake choosing Pence, Hillary made a mistake choosing Kaine, Biden made a mistake choosing Harris and so on down the line. Next will be the rumor that Trump secretly plans to step down so Vance can take over...
 
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Picking a VP just to win a single state is questionable to me. If a political party were smart they would give an automatic VP to one who comes in second at the delegate count. This would make campaigns against an incumbent more meaningful. If the dems had this policy in place, then Harris would have competition. For the GOP Haley would probably be the VP, the party would be more united and winning would be easier. Remember that the original constitution said that the VP was the second place finisher in the national election. so it would be Trump/Harris or Harris/Trump. lol, actually a good idea, because if they are not humble enough to serve under another administration, then they are probably worthless anyway.
 
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The Barbarian said:
Not sure why Trump thought Vance was a good idea when Biden was still running.
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After getting back stabbed by Pence he was looking for a Minion.
I think Carson would have been a much better pick.
He is clearly in this to help people and that is rare in the political arena.
 
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The Barbarian said:

Why Trump Suddenly Thinks Picking J.D. Vance Was a Mistake​

Joe Biden’s decision to drop out and endorse Kamala Harris to succeed him on the Democratic ticket has Donald Trump’s team scrambling​

newrepublic.com

Why Trump Suddenly Thinks Picking J.D. Vance Was a Mistake

Joe Biden’s decision to drop out and endorse Kamala Harris to succeed him on the Democratic ticket has Donald Trump’s team scrambling.
newrepublic.com newrepublic.com

Not sure why Trump thought Vance was a good idea when Biden was still running.
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Where in that article does it say Trump thinks picking Vance was a mistake?
 
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Aldebaran said:
Where in that article does it say Trump thinks picking Vance was a mistake?
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The title. But you're right; there's little evidence that Trump is aware of the issue at all. His people seem pretty concerned, and they should be.

“Most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second-guessing of JD Vance—a selection, they acknowledged, that was [born] of cockiness, meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter,” Atlantic staff writer Tim Alberta, who had written the piece about the panicking Trump campaign, posted on X (formerly Twitter).

Trump decried Biden’s decision to drop out in a post on Truth Social, writing that his team would have to “start all over again” and asking to be reimbursed for the cost.
www.businessinsider.com

How Trump could replace JD Vance if the Ohioan's terrible polling continues

Trump continues to express his support for JD Vance, but it's still technically possible for him to choose a new VP in a messy mad-dash effort.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com

Trump picking JD Vance was a 'really bad decision' and he would have been better off with Nikki Haley, ex-Trump official says​

www.businessinsider.com

Trump picking JD Vance was a 'really bad decision' and he would have been better off with Nikki Haley, ex-Trump official says

Anthony Scaramucci said Trump made a "really bad decision" choosing JD Vance as his VP, although Trump has said that Vance is "doing a fantastic job."
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com

JD Vance breaks polling records in the worst way​

Since 2000, vice-presidential nominees typically have had a net-positive rating immediately following the convention, at plus 19 points. Vance, however, is polling at minus 6 points just one week after accepting the vice-presidential nomination and officially embarking on the campaign trail, the network found.
www.businessinsider.com

JD Vance breaks polling records in the worst way

Vance is facing record-low approval ratings among vice-presidential nominees on the heels of the Republican National Convention.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
 
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The Barbarian said:
Not sure why Trump thought Vance was a good idea when Biden was still running.
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TRump did not think the vice president made a difference for getting him elected. So he was looking for someone who could help him get the job done if he is elected. Of course he thought he was running against Biden. Obama bated him and lead him along like he had a ring in his nose. It is like playing chess and Obama thought this through a lot better than Trump did. They made a move Trump was not expecting and he did not prepare for. Even though it was pretty much the only move they could make.

They have Trump looking filthy, vile and disgusting and Harris is looking clean and polished up. She does what she is told to do and she reads the lines they give her to read and she does not question that at all. Where Trump is his usual undisciplined wildman that somehow appeals to people because he is a renegade.

If Trump gets elected it would be a miracle. But miracles are possible. Lots of people claim Trump is God's man and God's choice for the job.
 
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The title. But you're right; there's little evidence that Trump is aware of the issue at all. His people seem pretty concerned, and they should be.

“Most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was the second-guessing of JD Vance—a selection, they acknowledged, that was [born] of cockiness, meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter,” Atlantic staff writer Tim Alberta, who had written the piece about the panicking Trump campaign, posted on X (formerly Twitter).

Trump decried Biden’s decision to drop out in a post on Truth Social, writing that his team would have to “start all over again” and asking to be reimbursed for the cost.
www.businessinsider.com

How Trump could replace JD Vance if the Ohioan's terrible polling continues

Trump continues to express his support for JD Vance, but it's still technically possible for him to choose a new VP in a messy mad-dash effort.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com

Trump picking JD Vance was a 'really bad decision' and he would have been better off with Nikki Haley, ex-Trump official says​

www.businessinsider.com

Trump picking JD Vance was a 'really bad decision' and he would have been better off with Nikki Haley, ex-Trump official says

Anthony Scaramucci said Trump made a "really bad decision" choosing JD Vance as his VP, although Trump has said that Vance is "doing a fantastic job."
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com

JD Vance breaks polling records in the worst way​

Since 2000, vice-presidential nominees typically have had a net-positive rating immediately following the convention, at plus 19 points. Vance, however, is polling at minus 6 points just one week after accepting the vice-presidential nomination and officially embarking on the campaign trail, the network found.
www.businessinsider.com

JD Vance breaks polling records in the worst way

Vance is facing record-low approval ratings among vice-presidential nominees on the heels of the Republican National Convention.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
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A title is simply meant to get the person to read the article. It's the article itself that needs to support the title. Your article failed in that, and is therefore invalid.
 
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Ace777 said:
TRump did not think the vice president made a difference for getting him elected. So he was looking for someone who could help him get the job done if he is elected. Of course he thought he was running against Biden. Obama bated him and lead him along like he had a ring in his nose. It is like playing chess and Obama thought this through a lot better than Trump did. They made a move Trump was not expecting and he did not prepare for. Even though it was pretty much the only move they could make.

They have Trump looking filthy, vile and disgusting and Harris is looking clean and polished up. She does what she is told to do and she reads the lines they give her to read and she does not question that at all. Where Trump is his usual undisciplined wildman that somehow appeals to people because he is a renegade.

If Trump gets elected it would be a miracle. But miracles are possible. Lots of people claim Trump is God's man and God's choice for the job.
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If Trump gets elected, it's because voters want someone who is genuine instead of someone who does what her handlers tell her to do, and says what they tell her to say.
We are voting for a president, not a group of unseen handlers.
The last 3 years have shown us what's it like to be governed by a president's handlers. So even his supporters forced him to drop out.
 
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