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Secret Service boss blames ‘sloped roof’ for not putting sniper team on building used by would-be Trump assassin

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With each day that passes, this looks worse and worse. Like for example, why was there no security positioned on this nearby water tower, which would have given a bird's eye view of the entire area?

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Just a complete and total security failure.
 
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Cheatle admitted the agency knew the building rooftop was a security vulnerability but still opted not to position agents there, leaving it wide open for Crooks to take up an ideal sniper perch with an unobstructed view of Trump on stage.
From the roof, Crooks had a clear line of sight to the GOP nominee with his AR-style semiautomatic rifle, about 130 yards away.

Fire her.
This is just stupid. the guy that shot the shooter was on a sloped roof, and it was MORE sloped than the one the shooter was on. Sheesh.
 
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She was probably referring to the local SWAT team that was on site. From what I read, the Secret Service did not have any assets deployed in or around those buildings.
I think you may be right. However, I'll just throw this out: Apparently the guy that actually shot the shooter had him in his sights for 3 minutes and was trying to get her approval. He wasn't able to fire on him until the shooter got is shots off. I'm tellin' ya. This seems eerily similar to the movie "Shooter".
 
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With each day that passes, this looks worse and worse. Like for example, why was there no security positioned on this nearby water tower, which would have given a bird's eye view of the entire area?

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Just a complete and total security failure.
So, the question is, was it intentional, or are they really just that stupid?
 
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I think you may be right. However, I'll just throw this out: Apparently the guy that actually shot the shooter had him in his sights for 3 minutes and was trying to get her approval. He wasn't able to fire on him until the shooter got is shots off. I'm tellin' ya. This seems eerily similar to the movie "Shooter".

....and what is your apparent source for this 3 minute information?
 
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....and what is your apparent source for this 3 minute information?
Honestly, I forgot. It was a broadcast about the situation that embedded that information in the story.
 
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....and what is your apparent source for this 3 minute information?

This doesn't mention having the shooter in his sights for 3 minutes, but it does say that the snipers saw the shooter on the roof 20 minutes before any gunfire.

Officials said the snipers spotted the suspect, 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks, on the roof of a building outside the security zone at the rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, at 5:52 p.m. ET. The shooting happened at 6:12 p.m. ET, 20 minutes later, the sources said.
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According to the sources, the timeline presented in the briefing was as follows:
  • 5:10 p.m. Crooks was first identified as a person of interest
  • 5:30 p.m. Crooks was spotted with a rangefinder
  • 5:52 p.m. Crooks was spotted on the roof by Secret Service
  • 6:02 p.m. Trump takes the stage
  • 6:12 p.m. Crooks fires first shots
ETA: The article does mention "3 minutes" here...
New analysis by ABC News' visual verification team reveals that one of two sniper teams posted atop buildings to the north and south behind the rally stage repositioned before the first gunshots were fired. At 6:09 p.m., three minutes before the first gunshots rang out, the sniper team on the roof of the building south of the stage, the furthest away from the shooter’s location, repositioned, turning from the south to the north in the direction of the shooter’s location.
 
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This doesn't mention having the shooter in his sights for 3 minutes, but it does say that the snipers saw the shooter on the roof 20 minutes before any gunfire.

Officials said the snipers spotted the suspect, 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks, on the roof of a building outside the security zone at the rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, at 5:52 p.m. ET. The shooting happened at 6:12 p.m. ET, 20 minutes later, the sources said.
...​
According to the sources, the timeline presented in the briefing was as follows:
  • 5:10 p.m. Crooks was first identified as a person of interest
  • 5:30 p.m. Crooks was spotted with a rangefinder
  • 5:52 p.m. Crooks was spotted on the roof by Secret Service
  • 6:02 p.m. Trump takes the stage
  • 6:12 p.m. Crooks fires first shots

Thank you.
Missing: the time the Secret Service sniper confirmed Crooks is armed.
 
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This doesn't mention having the shooter in his sights for 3 minutes, but it does say that the snipers saw the shooter on the roof 20 minutes before any gunfire.

Officials said the snipers spotted the suspect, 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks, on the roof of a building outside the security zone at the rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, at 5:52 p.m. ET. The shooting happened at 6:12 p.m. ET, 20 minutes later, the sources said.
...​
According to the sources, the timeline presented in the briefing was as follows:
  • 5:10 p.m. Crooks was first identified as a person of interest
  • 5:30 p.m. Crooks was spotted with a rangefinder
  • 5:52 p.m. Crooks was spotted on the roof by Secret Service
  • 6:02 p.m. Trump takes the stage
  • 6:12 p.m. Crooks fires first shots
ETA: The article does mention "3 minutes" here...
New analysis by ABC News' visual verification team reveals that one of two sniper teams posted atop buildings to the north and south behind the rally stage repositioned before the first gunshots were fired. At 6:09 p.m., three minutes before the first gunshots rang out, the sniper team on the roof of the building south of the stage, the furthest away from the shooter’s location, repositioned, turning from the south to the north in the direction of the shooter’s location.
Thank you! I have to say that in the world of 1980 if someone was to ask me what my source was they'd probably just get the following: I heard it on the news. But, that being a fair question, it is a good question. And often the source turned out to be some flake or even some of the baloney the MSM provided and then casually just stopped reporting.
 
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Alright, this guy explains the July 13, 2024 event in detail. The video may be a bit outdated, but here it goes. Not much is explained, but maybe the guy who makes the video will release an update. The channel owners are from overseas in Germany and the Netherlands.


Fern - Mapping the July 13, 2024 Events (Genre: Video Essay, Age rating 17+ due to heavy topic)


Summary:

On July 13, 2024, former US president Donald Trump was speaking at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, when shots were fired. Trump was hit but survived the assassination attempt. The gunman, Thomas Matthew Crooks, was armed with an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle and fired multiple shots from the roof of a nearby building. Secret Service agents swarmed Trump and shielded him with their bodies. The gunman also hit spectators, killing one and critically injuring two others. The FBI found suspicious devices in Crooks' car and home. The investigation is ongoing, and new information is being published. President Biden and various leaders around the world condemned the attack and political violence at large. The picture of Trump, bloodied but defiant with a raised fist, will likely become a powerful symbol in his re-election campaign.
 
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I think it was unwise of her to give a press interview until all the facts are established.
Totally true.
She also stated law enforcement officers were inside the same building as the shooter.
Local police are contradicting that statement, noting their officers were inside an adjacent building.

I've heard local police attesting to that statement. The most solid information I've gotten is that the local police were "in control" of that building and were using it for their own operations. There may or may not have been officers in that building at that particular moment, but from the Secret Service point of view, that was a building that was "secured" by the local police.

If the Secret Service noted activity on that roof, they'd first have to check with the local police to make sure it wasn't police activity.
 
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