Why God created worship music

Curiousmind · Jun 9, 2024

Hi,

I have been thinking, thing is I dont like to sing worship music in church services, thing is I don't have talent to sing, if I had maybe I would love it. Some have talent some don't in singing.
Some people like to play music at home when resting for example, I dont do this, my home is silent, I prefer silence no music.
I rather listen to something educational like a debate or conference for example.

I think God created worship music for those who like music, I know some people like music, love to sing and dance, so it is for them to fullfill their needs.

I used to sing along in music worship, it was more like, I felt obligated as a christian and the worship leader kinda obligated is to sing saying things like lets express our love for God, God is to be praised etc, now that I am older and wiser I dont do it no more, I dont have a need for this. I dont think God obligates us to sing worship music. God is no human he doesnt need us at all.

Br,

Richard T · Jun 9, 2024

Here's 100 scriptures relating to worship in the word of God. What Does the Bible Say About Worship God In Heaven?
We will do this in heaven so I would just go ahead and not just accept it but embrace it. I get it though that some can't sing at all. You could probably practice on your own and be surprised? But even if you still can't carry a tune. God inhabits your praise and that makes it so awesome. Many people can feel God's presence with singing and much of my personal guidance from God comes during worship. Still, no need for condemnation but ask God to help you on this. Worship is for our benefit. It helps our heart and sets us in a better place.

Curiousmind · Jun 9, 2024

Richard T said:
Here's 100 scriptures relating to worship in the word of God. What Does the Bible Say About Worship God In Heaven?
We will do this in heaven so I would just go ahead and not just accept it but embrace it. I get it though that some can't sing at all. You could probably practice on your own and be surprised? But even if you still can't carry a tune. God inhabits your praise and that makes it so awesome. Many people can feel God's presence with singing and much of my personal guidance from God comes during worship. Still, no need for condemnation but ask God to help you on this. Worship is for our benefit. It helps our heart and sets us in a better place.

No where it says that we must worship with music or singing, it is voluntary.

Richard T · Jun 10, 2024

Curiousmind said:
No where it says that we must worship with music or singing, it is voluntary.

Is it a law? I suppose not though there are quite a few scriptures indicating that it is something one should do. Probably more on the side of giving. Giving sparingly, reap sparingly. There are other ways to worship God though than just singing or playing an instrument. Clapping, shouting, dancing, bowing, silent worship. In heaven it won't matter as we will be free from the flesh and perhaps everyone is a gifted singer? I doubt God would want anyone off key.

angelsaroundme · Jun 10, 2024

I may see worship music somewhat differently than others. To me it's more about becoming closer to God than it is about worshipping God in the literal sense.

The Liturgist · Jul 3, 2024

Curiousmind said:
Hi,

I have been thinking, thing is I dont like to sing worship music in church services, thing is I don't have talent to sing, if I had maybe I would love it. Some have talent some don't in singing.
Some people like to play music at home when resting for example, I dont do this, my home is silent, I prefer silence no music.
I rather listen to something educational like a debate or conference for example.

I think God created worship music for those who like music, I know some people like music, love to sing and dance, so it is for them to fullfill their needs.

I used to sing along in music worship, it was more like, I felt obligated as a christian and the worship leader kinda obligated is to sing saying things like lets express our love for God, God is to be praised etc, now that I am older and wiser I dont do it no more, I dont have a need for this. I dont think God obligates us to sing worship music. God is no human he doesnt need us at all.

Br,

If the church you attended did not have traditional hymnody, I can completely understand.

In Western Christianity, there is a history of silent and non musical worship. When I was briefly Episcopalian so I could attend the church services of my friend Fr. Steven who was one of the last conservative Episcopal priests in Los Angeles, I preferred to attend the Said Service, which is common in Anglican churches like the Episcopal church and which lacks music.

An even more silent experience is the traditional Low Mass which one finds in some Catholic and Anglican churches, but it has become endangered due to the crackdown by Pope Francis on the beautiful Trad

Ace777 · Jul 18, 2024

Curiousmind said:
I have been thinking, thing is I dont like to sing worship music in church services

We can worship through prayer and thanksgiving. We do not need our voice to praise God.

Revelation 5:8 describes the prayers of the saints as incense, and the church is called a garden of spices in Song of Songs 4:12, 14. Likewise, our spiritual sacrifices carry a sweet aroma to God (Genesis 8:21).

tturt · Jul 18, 2024

Hopefully we can praise and worship God with or without music.

com7fy8 · Jul 19, 2024

Curiousmind said:
Hi,

I have been thinking,

How has your thinking been doing, for other things?

Curiousmind said:
thing is I dont like to sing worship music in church services, thing is I don't have talent to sing, if I had maybe I would love it.

Looking at "talent" can be a way of comparing yourself with other people . . . about outward ability. And does God evaluate us by what is outward??

Our Apostle Paul says to be "making melody in your heart to the Lord", in Ephesians 5:19.

Curiousmind said:
Some have talent some don't in singing.

What about Moses? Didn't he say he was not talented at speaking and therefore he should not speak for God? And how did the LORD feel about that?

Curiousmind said:
Some people like to play music at home when resting for example, I dont do this, my home is silent, I prefer silence no music.

God is not silent, but quiet and personal and very capable of communicating with us. But our thinking and anger and judging can make noise so we do not connect with His personal communication.

Curiousmind said:
I rather listen to something educational like a debate or conference for example.

That can be noisy. But it can be useful.

Curiousmind said:
I think God created worship music for those who like music, I know some people like music, love to sing and dance, so it is for them to fullfill their needs.

You think. But are we not growing in Jesus? As a child grows, he or she discovers new abilities and interests. So, it is wise for a child not to make choices for the person he or she will become after he or she matures to become an adult.

Curiousmind said:
I used to sing along in music worship, it was more like, I felt obligated as a christian and the worship leader kinda obligated is to sing saying things like lets express our love for God, God is to be praised etc,

So, indeed God does not want copy-catting and just making gestures to God.

But yes God enjoys our singing in love. So, there is the right way to understand that leader > not that we are pressured, but we enjoy what is pleasing to the LORD. I would say trust God with you to develop and guide you to discover how He has you sharing with Him and His people, and enjoy.

Curiousmind said:
God is no human he doesnt need us at all.

How about Ronans 8:29?

tturt · Jul 20, 2024

Since you like educational topics you could study "words" "tongue" and "speaking" from a Biblical perspective.

God said let there be light and there was light. Gen 1:3 Is the first verse in my study notes.

oikonomia · Jul 20, 2024

Curiousmind said:
Hi,

I have been thinking, thing is I dont like to sing worship music in church services, thing is I don't have talent to sing, if I had maybe I would love it. Some have talent some don't in singing.

You can make a joyful noise to the Lord. And God accepts that with pleasure.

Make a joyful noise to Jehovah, all the earth.
Serve Jehovah with rejoicing; / Come before His presence with joyful singing. (Psalm 100:1,2)

Our singing is for God and not primarily for performance before man.

Curiousmind said:
Some people like to play music at home when resting for example, I dont do this, my home is silent, I prefer silence no music.
I rather listen to something educational like a debate or conference for example.

Curiousmind said:
I think God created worship music for those who like music, I know some people like music, love to sing and dance, so it is for them to fullfill their needs.

Some so-called worship music is like the golden calf that was an idol for the Israelites.
Aaron made the excuse that they put gold into the fire and low and behold "out came this calf."

So I [Aaron] said to them, Whoever has any gold, let them tear it off; so they gave it to me,
and I threw it into the fire, and this calf came out. (Exo. 32:24)

God cannot be blamed for the erecting of a false idol. It was an abomination to Him.

Neither can we say God created all that we label worship music.
I was in the business of a traveling Christian music group. And I know when the Spirit was absent but the pride of
man was on display. Not always was this or is this the case.

Curiousmind said:
I used to sing along in music worship, it was more like, I felt obligated as a christian and the worship leader kinda obligated is to sing saying things like lets express our love for God, God is to be praised etc, now that I am older and wiser I dont do it no more, I dont have a need for this. I dont think God obligates us to sing worship music. God is no human he doesnt need us at all.

If you love God and enjoy living unto Him, you're probably going to sing sometime.
God needs our praise, thanksgiving, and lifting Him up in order for Him to fulfill the need to gain our beings for His imparting
His life into us.

The Psalmist put it well that God was enthroned upon the praises of Israel.
The loss of the sense of His protective authority and blessing can be because of the shortage of praise rendered to Him.
If you wish the blessing of His throne in all matters of your living you should enjoy to thank and praise Him in His presence.

But You are holy, You who sit enthroned / Upon the praises of Israel. (Psalm 22:3)

The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ.
How can we not feel to thank Him even in song, if we have really enjoyed Christ living in us.
Have you received the Lord Jesus into your heart as Savior and Lord?
Ask yourself. You don't have to feel obligated to me to answer.

David Lamb · Jul 20, 2024

oikonomia said:
Our singing is for God and not primarily for performance before man.

I would go further. In my view, our singing should not at all (as opposed not your "not primarily") be a performance for other people. (Of course, I am only talking here about church worship. There is nothing wrong with a Christian playing in an orchestra or singing in a choir which performs concerts, but when the church comes together to worship God, it is to Him that we address our hymns of praise. Yes, I know Paul tells Christians to speak to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, but the context makes clear that the worship is addressed to God:

“18 And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit, 19 speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord, 20 giving thanks always for all things to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,” (Eph 5:18-20 NKJV)

Ace777 · Jul 20, 2024

David Lamb said:
I would go further. In my view, our singing should not at all (as opposed not your "not primarily") be a performance for other people.

Worship has to be done together with other people. With all the disputes we see on these boards we forget how much harmony there will be in Heaven. "For where two or three are gathered in my name, I am there among them" (Matthew 18:20).

turkle · Jul 20, 2024

Music, and most forms of art, comes from the overflow of the heart. Think about how many songs are love songs. When one loves, one wants to make or listen to songs about the one they love. I would imagine that when you first fell in love that you may have found a song that expresses those powerful emotions.

This is what worship music is. People who love God and want to express that love write music about and to the Lord. It is not rule or law that draws us to sing worship music, it's the expression of our love for God that make us want to sing to Him. That's the point. It is a beautiful form of expression, but it is not the only way to communicate that love. We also do that in our prayers and meditations, as well as in talking with others about God.

I would recommend opening your heart to the experience of worship through music. Musical talent is irrelevant. I remember being in church near a woman who was completely tone deaf, but was raising her voice to the Lord with all her heart. I marveled at this and respected her so much for her lack of self consciousness as she expressed her heart to Him so passionately and selflessly.

tturt · Jul 20, 2024

"Worship has to be done together with other people." What is your definition of worship?

Don't see it necessarily as a group activity and even within a group, it depends on us individually. Where I'm coming from is in Greek and Hebrew, worship means to bow down and show deep respect. "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." John 4 "And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved..." Since we are spirit, soul, and body and God is Spirit then that's how we can worship Him - His Spirit and our spirit

oikonomia · Jul 21, 2024

David Lamb said:
I would go further. In my view, our singing should not at all (as opposed not your "not primarily") be a performance for other people. (Of course, I am only talking here about church worship. There is nothing wrong with a Christian playing in an orchestra or singing in a choir which performs concerts, but when the church comes together to worship God, it is to Him that we address our hymns of praise. Yes, I know Paul tells Christians to speak to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, but the context makes clear that the worship is addressed to God:

“18 And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit, 19 speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord, 20 giving thanks always for all things to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,” (Eph 5:18-20 NKJV)

Thanks for your fellowship. I am not having a lot of time for the thread today.

But I would like to explain that I have loved music and been a musician my whole life.
I have a sanctified hobby and even service of putting Bible verses to song.

I have a Youtube channel and a Soundcloud account of such songs - guitar,vocal, and the New Testament (mostly) sung.
It has been a journey to learn how to be a Christian musician. And I am still in the process of learning. If interested Google up Jack Wilmore songs.

https://soundcloud.com/jack-wilmore2%2Fsets%2Fgod-so-loved-the-world
Nothing satisfies as much as the happiness of the Holy Spirit within one's spirit.
Eventually, you're not happy as a Christian if you lift up ANYTHING higher than the dear Lord.
Or if something "conquers" the sense of His presence to distraction, you eventually feel the vanity and emptiness of it.
There is no harm in playing skillfully as you said.

Sing Him a new song; / Play skillfully with a joyous shout. (Psalm 33:3)

Notice, the captive Hebrews taken away to Babylon were demanded of their captures to sing one of the songs of Zion.
The reply touches me. How could they sing in such a situation, taken away from God's place for them. He would rather forget all his skill
then not remember Zion from where they had been carried away from the Lord's best.

By the rivers of Babylon, / There we sat down; indeed, we wept / When we remembered Zion. - Psalm 137: 1-6

On the willows in the midst of it / We hung up our lyres,

For there our captors required of us songs, / And those who tormented us required of us mirth, saying, / Sing for us / One of the songs of Zion.

How can we sing the song of Jehovah / In a foreign land?

If I forget you, O Jerusalem, / Let my right hand forget its skill.

Let my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth, / If I do not remember you, / If I do not prefer Jerusalem / Above my chief joy.

For the Christian, our Jerusalem is in spirit and in truthfulness, the "where" we must worship God. (John 4:24)

David Lamb · Jul 22, 2024

Ace777 said:
Worship has to be done together with other people. With all the disputes we see on these boards we forget how much harmony there will be in Heaven. "For where two or three are gathered in my name, I am there among them" (Matthew 18:20).

I certainly didn't mean that we shouldn't worship God with other Christians. I just meant that music used in worship (hymns, psalms etc) should not be a performance for other Christians.

tturt · Jul 27, 2024

Been thinking about this thread & want to add

For years without notice, I've read "A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: ..." Pro 17:22 I would think - cute little verse and ignored it.

Then while reading "God's Prescription Book," written by a Christain neurosugeon, Dr Avery Jackson, there's a chapter on a merry heart/laughter. Among other benefits, a merry heart improves our immune system. So just by following God's Word with this 1 verse, I could have been improving my health.

Learned many lessons from that experience.

There are numerous Scriptures about singing to Him.

Ace777 · Jul 27, 2024

tturt said:
"A merry heart doeth good like a medicine:

This very much works. God hates it when people grumble and complain. We have to have a positive attitude. I keep a lot of scriptures so I can read them and be encouraged. To remind me to have "a merry heart". This lines us up with God from Whom all blessing flow. When we abide in Him and He abides in us we can feel healing in our bones.

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