Why did Satan not kill Job's wife as he killed his children?

tonychanyt · Jul 4, 2024

Satan bet against Job in front of God in Job 1:

11 "stretch out your hand and touch all that he has, and he will curse you to your face.”

God accepted the bet:

12 And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your hand. Only against him do not stretch out your hand.” So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD.

Then Satan took Job’s property and killed his children, but he spared Job's wife. Why?

Because Satan wanted to use his wife to accomplish his bet:

Job 2:

9 Then his wife said to him, “Do you still hold fast your integrity? Curse God and die.”

That was the pivotal moment that Satan was waiting for. Would Job do what his wife said and accomplish Satan's win? The answer was a resounding "no":

10 But he said to her, “You speak as one of the foolish women would speak.

Job rebuked his wife for saying such nonsense.

Shall we receive good from God, and shall we not receive evil?” In all this Job did not sin with his lips.

Why did Satan spare Job's wife?

Satan thought he could use his wife to get Job to curse God. Satan's plan failed.

Grip Docility · Jul 4, 2024

tonychanyt said:
Satan bet against Job in front of God in Job 1:

God accepted the bet:

Then Satan took Job’s property and killed his children, but he spared Job's wife. Why?

Because Satan wanted to use his wife to accomplish his bet:

Job 2:

That was the pivotal moment that Satan was waiting for. Would Job do what his wife said and accomplish Satan's win? The answer was a resounding "no":

Job rebuked his wife for saying such nonsense.

Why did Satan spare Job's wife?

Satan thought he could use his wife to get Job to curse God. Satan's plan failed.

Excellent point!

Job's Wife, in my humble opinion is also a Type for a very specific Anti-Type discussed throughout all of scripture. The enemy focuses on the "flesh", while God has always had His eyes on the Heart (Soul). To be sincere, Job is a type for a very specific Anti-Type discussed throughout scripture, in my humble opinion, as well.

Spiritual Jew · Jul 4, 2024

tonychanyt said:
Satan bet against Job in front of God in Job 1:

God accepted the bet:

Then Satan took Job’s property and killed his children, but he spared Job's wife. Why?

Because Satan wanted to use his wife to accomplish his bet:

Job 2:

That was the pivotal moment that Satan was waiting for. Would Job do what his wife said and accomplish Satan's win? The answer was a resounding "no":

Job rebuked his wife for saying such nonsense.

Why did Satan spare Job's wife?

Satan thought he could use his wife to get Job to curse God. Satan's plan failed.

Great topic. Very interesting. I completely agree with everything you said here.

Spiritual Jew · Jul 4, 2024

Grip Docility said:
Excellent point!

Job's Wife, in my humble opinion is also a Type for a very specific Anti-Type discussed throughout all of scripture. The enemy focuses on the "flesh", while God has always had His eyes on the Heart (Soul). To be sincere, Job is a type for a very specific Anti-Type discussed throughout scripture, in my humble opinion, as well.

Are you saying you believe Job's wife is the Anti-Type of the heart (soul) and Job is the Anti-Type of "the flesh"? If so, do you see that taught specifically in scripture anywhere or do you believe it is implied? If that isn't what you're saying, then can you explain exactly what you mean? I'm not looking to argue about it, I just find it to be interesting.

With that said, how do we get the animated fireworks off our screen on this site? Very distracting. I know it's the Fourth of July, but come on.

Grip Docility · Jul 4, 2024

Spiritual Jew said:
Are you saying you believe Job's wife is the Anti-Type of the heart (soul) and Job is the Anti-Type of "the flesh"? If so, do you see that taught specifically in scripture anywhere or do you believe it is implied? If that isn't what you're saying, then can you explain exactly what you mean? I'm not looking to argue about it, I just find it to be interesting.

Personal belief, only, being expressed here.

Romans 9-11 (Unbelieving Israel), Job's Wife (Christ's first Bride, in whom He still patiently Loves). Though her unbelieving flesh is destroyed, her soul remains in tact. I believe that God has a specific plan for her that is yet to come.

Also, Job is a picture of the Son of God, who was persecuted by His own creation, IMO. Not saying Job is the Creator, but a type, for the Creator. (Job is Blameless)

Spiritual Jew · Jul 4, 2024

Grip Docility said:
Personal belief, only, being expressed here.

No problem.

Grip Docility said:
Romans 9-11 (Unbelieving Israel), Job's Wife (Christ's first Bride, in whom He still patiently Loves). Though her unbelieving flesh is destroyed, her soul remains in tact. I believe that God has a specific plan for her that is yet to come.

It looks like you are talking about national Israel here? If so, I have to disagree because it's about Jesus and His church now (Jew and Gentile believers together as one body) , but I will say no more because I know your were hesitant to be specific about this and I appreciate you sharing it. If you wanted to discuss it any further, we can, but I won't push for that.

Grip Docility said:
Also, Job is a picture of the Son of God, who was persecuted by His own creation, IMO.

Interesting. I think that makes sense. I will ponder it some more to see if I agree with that or not. As of now, I'm leaning towards thinking I will agree with this. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts.

Grip Docility · Jul 4, 2024

Spiritual Jew said:
No problem.

It's wonderful to share views and I've noticed that @tonychanyt provides topics in a way that just seem to keep discussion flowing! I would say that he even builds up the Body in this way.

Spiritual Jew said:
It looks like you are talking about national Israel here? If so, I have to disagree because it's about Jesus and His church now (Jew and Gentile believers together as one body) , but I will say no more because I know your were hesitant to be specific about this and I appreciate you sharing it. If you wanted to discuss it any further, we can, but I won't push for that.

Spiritual Jew, I also, always appreciate your desire to share perspectives back and forth with an open ear!

I actually don't disagree with you. Types in scripture reach far beyond one single anti-type, over and over. An interesting point is that Job's wife is absent from the book of Job after she tells him to curse God and die. Which humorously, as Tony pointed out in another post, actually translates to "Bless God", when it is used towards God. "Baruch Elokhim, ve mos" The magic happens with the Hebrew word "Baruch".

This said, the book closes without Job's wife in the picture, but only his daughters which are written to be the most beautiful in all of the land. I will be candid. National Unbelieving Israel in Sheol or living today will have to integrate into the Body, one day. In this sense, we are both in agreement, though I understand that this is most likely not your view.

This said, I would love to hear your full view on this. Please do share.

Spiritual Jew said:
Interesting. I think that makes sense. I will ponder it some more to see if I agree with that or not. As of now, I'm leaning towards thinking I will agree with this. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts.

You are welcome! Now, please, spill the rest of your thoughts on this matter involving Job's wife as I'm interested.

Grip Docility · Jul 6, 2024

tonychanyt said:
Satan bet against Job in front of God in Job 1:

God accepted the bet:

Then Satan took Job’s property and killed his children, but he spared Job's wife. Why?

Because Satan wanted to use his wife to accomplish his bet:

Job 2:

That was the pivotal moment that Satan was waiting for. Would Job do what his wife said and accomplish Satan's win? The answer was a resounding "no":

Job rebuked his wife for saying such nonsense.

Why did Satan spare Job's wife?

Satan thought he could use his wife to get Job to curse God. Satan's plan failed.

Tonychanyt,

There is a more humorous and sinister answer to your well asked question that popped into my head today;

Why did Satan not kill Job's wife as he killed his children?
Because Satan knew that leaving her alive would be the supreme way to afflict Job.

Spiritual Jew · Jul 7, 2024

Grip Docility said:
It's wonderful to share views and I've noticed that @tonychanyt provides topics in a way that just seem to keep discussion flowing! I would say that he even builds up the Body in this way.

I get notifications when new threads are created in certain forums, so I see the many new threads that he creates. When I first saw him doing that I thought he was getting carried away and starting too many new threads in a short amount of time, but when I actually looked at some of them I realized most of them are very interesting topics. So, it's definitely a good thing.

Grip Docility said:
Spiritual Jew, I also, always appreciate your desire to share perspectives back and forth with an open ear!

That is my desire, but I have to contend with a number of people sometimes who do not share that desire.

Grip Docility said:
I actually don't disagree with you. Types in scripture reach far beyond one single anti-type, over and over. An interesting point is that Job's wife is absent from the book of Job after she tells him to curse God and die. Which humorously, as Tony pointed out in another post, actually translates to "Bless God", when it is used towards God. "Baruch Elokhim, ve mos" The magic happens with the Hebrew word "Baruch".

This said, the book closes without Job's wife in the picture, but only his daughters which are written to be the most beautiful in all of the land. I will be candid. National Unbelieving Israel in Sheol or living today will have to integrate into the Body, one day. In this sense, we are both in agreement, though I understand that this is most likely not your view.

I'm trying to make sense of what you're saying here, but I can't. I find one of your statements here to be troubling, so please clarify it. You said "National Unbelieving Israel in Sheol or living today will have to integrate into the Body, one day.". Taken at face value, I couldn't possibly disagree more with this statement because it comes across as if you are saying dead Israelite unbelievers will one day be integrated into the body of Christ. But, only believers are part of the body of Christ. Can you clarify what you meant by this?

Grip Docility said:
This said, I would love to hear your full view on this. Please do share.

My full view on what exactly?

Grip Docility said:
You are welcome! Now, please, spill the rest of your thoughts on this matter involving Job's wife as I'm interested.

Sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean here.

Grip Docility · Jul 7, 2024

Spiritual Jew said:
I get notifications when new threads are created in certain forums, so I see the many new threads that he creates. When I first saw him doing that I thought he was getting carried away and starting too many new threads in a short amount of time, but when I actually looked at some of them I realized most of them are very interesting topics. So, it's definitely a good thing

Awesome

Spiritual Jew said:
.That is my desire, but I have to contend with a number of people sometimes who do not share that desire.

I understand

Spiritual Jew said:
I'm trying to make sense of what you're saying here, but I can't. I find one of your statements here to be troubling, so please clarify it. You said "National Unbelieving Israel in Sheol or living today will have to integrate into the Body, one day.". Taken at face value, I couldn't possibly disagree more with this statement because it comes across as if you are saying dead Israelite unbelievers will one day be integrated into the body of Christ. But, only believers are part of the body of Christ. Can you clarify what you meant by this?

If you were to make an OP under some type of Romans 11 (Nat. Unbel. Israel) type discussion, it might draw some interesting discussion. If you were to do this and drop my name, I would show up and discuss this, without desire to change your views, but to at least explain my perspective and exegesis of Romans 9-11 more clearly.

Spiritual Jew said:
My full view on what exactly?

I thought you had more to share, per your previous post, but eased back, concerning Job's wife as a type.

Spiritual Jew said:
Sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean here.

Same thing, I just wanted to ensure that I got to hear everything you were thinking about Job's wife as a type.

Rose_bud · Jul 8, 2024

Grip Docility said:
Why did Satan not kill Job's wife as he killed his children?
Because Satan knew that leaving her alive would be the supreme way to afflict Job.

Hey Grip

Job does lament that his wife can't stand his breath anymore...Job 19:17

It must be terrible that during the worst time of your life your loved ones find you loathsome.

bèlla · Jul 8, 2024

Job's wife exemplifies the devil's tactics against married couples and should serve as a warning for both. Much like the movies he attacks the weakest point in the wall. If that's your spouse, children, work, etc. the bulk of your warfare will come from that place. When you read the bible with that in mind you discover areas that require girding or strengthening to repel attacks.

~bella

Spiritual Jew · Jul 11, 2024

Grip Docility said:
If you were to make an OP under some type of Romans 11 (Nat. Unbel. Israel) type discussion, it might draw some interesting discussion. If you were to do this and drop my name, I would show up and discuss this, without desire to change your views, but to at least explain my perspective and exegesis of Romans 9-11 more clearly.

Maybe I will at some point. It would require a fair amount of time and effort on my part, so we'll see. I believe Romans 9-11 is misunderstood by many.

Grip Docility said:
I thought you had more to share, per your previous post, but eased back, concerning Job's wife as a type.

Same thing, I just wanted to ensure that I got to hear everything you were thinking about Job's wife as a type.

Not at the moment. I haven't given that much thought...yet. If I give it more thought at some point, I'll be sure to share my thoughts with you.

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