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They sound like a crazy bunch... but they seem sincere in their beliefs, even if they are extreme.... And they believe Jesus died for their sins...

So will they go to heaven, despite their other obnoxious beliefs?

No one knows the answer to that question. In the end they will be judged based on what they do in this life, just like me.

But if we look to their core message, there is nothing wrong with it. The way they go about it is, as you said, obnoxious. But the bible is filled with people who have done basically the same thing and were considered righteous. John the Baptist was executed for condemning Herod's marriage. Look at Ezekiel:

Eze 9:4 And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

Who knows.
 
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I believe they set a wrong example in their attempt at witness. What St. John wrote in 1 John 2:1-17 shows they fail to properly discern the difference between love of neighbor and to not love sin. It is not my place to judge their souls. The Lord tells us to treat others as we would want to be treated ( Matthew 7:1-12). Their examples fail but if I assume what the way they assume, I am the one in danger of hell ( Matthew 5:22).
 
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They sound like a crazy bunch... but they seem sincere in their beliefs, even if they are extreme.... And they believe Jesus died for their sins...

So will they go to heaven, despite their other obnoxious beliefs?
Well, if the congregation were mislead (which they were), God might forgive them, however, for the leader of Westboro, I am not sure about him. Most likely some form of judgement, whether eternal or strict punishment.
 
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They sound like a crazy bunch... but they seem sincere in their beliefs, even if they are extreme.... And they believe Jesus died for their sins...

So will they go to heaven, despite their other obnoxious beliefs?
Do they still even exist as a corporate entity? They never had more than 100 people at any one time. The latest guess is that in 2017 they only had 70 people, mostly relatives of the founder.

My theory about them is that they got generous financial support from the LGBTQ+ community to keep them in the news. Otherwise they would have been essentially invisible.

Will they go to heaven? Not if I were running admissions, but then I'm not running admissions.
 
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They caused a lot of heartache to grieving families, with no genuine biblical justification. Isn't that a sin?
It is a sin, also, WBC leaders and congregation members even said antisemitic stuff as well. So WBC doubly-sinned right there.
 
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Will they go to heaven? Not if I were running admissions, but then I'm not running admissions.

Just so you know, the Westboro Baptist Church is not the door to Heaven.

That church might have some severe issues with doctrine, but it apparently prioritizes the Way.
 
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They caused a lot of heartache to grieving families, with no genuine biblical justification. Isn't that a sin?

No church on Earth is perfect yet.
 
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Ya, all kinds of people do all kinds of disturbing things sincere in their beliefs.

I tell people not to underestimate the power of faith.

It is not to be taken lightly.
 
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They sound like a crazy bunch... but they seem sincere in their beliefs, even if they are extreme.... And they believe Jesus died for their sins...

So will they go to heaven, despite their other obnoxious beliefs?
As long as Jesus was joking when he Said Judge not lest ye be judged and by what manner ye judge, you shall be judged, also.
As long as Paul was kidding when he wrote Romans 2:1,2
As long as James was just lol about James chapter 2...
As long as Jesus was just giving a stand up comedy bit when He dispensed Matthew 23...
As long as Jude is an apocryphal book...
As long as John was just being silly when he wrote 1 John 4...

They'll be fine... :oldthumbsup:
 
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Truth be known, they think we are all crazy.
Quote Leviticus 18 and Romans 1, and find out what they call you!~
I believe the day is coming when all Bible-believing Christians and Christianity itself will be considered a hate group. The Bible will be banned for being hate speech.
 
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No church on Earth is perfect yet.
They are not the typical church though... When most regular church members do something wrong they repent. WBC don't even see their sin. Harassing grieving families at funerals is pure cruelty, unless they are preaching to the departed?
No, they are cruel and are unrepentant...
... So as the Christians seem uncertain about it, on behalf of the Buddhists I declare they are currently headed for one of the Buddhist hells.
 
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Truth be known, they think we are all crazy.
Quote Leviticus 18 and Romans 1, and find out what they call you!~
I believe the day is coming when all Bible-believing Christians and Christianity itself will be considered a hate group. The Bible will be banned for being hate speech.
I think that will depend on whether they choose to follow Jesus with humility or whether they choose to follow judgemental, preachy, finger pointing haters.
Are they going to reduce or grow their egos?... That will determine their future.
 
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I believe the day is coming when all Bible-believing Christians and Christianity itself will be considered a hate group. The Bible will be banned for being hate speech.

And we'll be in Heaven with Jesus, pending our return.
 
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They are not the typical church though... When most regular church members do something wrong they repent. WBC don't even see their sin. Harassing grieving families at funerals is pure cruelty, unless they are preaching to the departed?
No, they are cruel and are unrepentant...
... So as the Christians seem uncertain about it, on behalf of the Buddhists I declare they are currently headed for one of the Buddhist hells.
Well, Catholics have never declared that Judas Iscariot or Adolph Hitler are in hell. Nor Pol Pot or anyone else. That's kind of above our pay grade as Catholics. YMMV.
 
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