Parts of Biden student loan forgiveness plan blocked by judges

Valletta said:

“Congress never gave Biden the authority to saddle working Americans with half-a-trillion dollars in other people’s debt. A huge win for the Constitution.”

Parts of Biden student loan forgiveness plan blocked by judges

Two federal judges blocked parts of President Joe Biden's student loan forgiveness plan. Federal judges in Missouri and Kansas ruled that the Saving on a

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We need to fix a president defying Supreme Court decisions, for this president and future presidents.

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Please show us where the Biden Administration has defied an order from SCOTUS.

Pommer said:

Please show us where the Biden Administration has defied an order from SCOTUS.

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I guess you missed this news from last year:

[30-June-2023] Supreme Court strikes down Biden student-loan forgiveness program - SCOTUSblog

Again - when will he figure out that we have a checks and balance system and he can't circumvent it.

Matt5 said:

I guess you missed this news from last year:

[30-June-2023] Supreme Court strikes down Biden student-loan forgiveness program - SCOTUSblog

Supreme Court strikes down Biden student-loan forgiveness program

This article was updated on June 30 at 4:00 p.m. By a vote of 6-3, the justices ruled that the Biden administration overstepped its authority last year when it announced […]

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Right, SCOTUS outlined the deficiencies in Biden‘s first attempt and the Administration attempted to craft a policy that conformed to that Supreme Court decision.

bankratedotcom said:

Student loans are a hot topic in the political space, particularly after the Supreme Court decision to reject the Biden administration’s loan forgiveness program. So far, the administration has responded with changes to the income-driven repayment program and has promised more work to come to relieve borrowers.

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This is how the process works.

An administration implements a policy, is sued, the court(s) rule and if it goes against the administration, they take Another crack at making the policy conform to the Courts’ rulings.

There is no “defying”; there’s trying again, albeit in a slightly different way.

Please learn how our system works.

Matt5 said:

I guess you missed this news from last year:

[30-June-2023] Supreme Court strikes down Biden student-loan forgiveness program - SCOTUSblog

Supreme Court strikes down Biden student-loan forgiveness program

This article was updated on June 30 at 4:00 p.m. By a vote of 6-3, the justices ruled that the Biden administration overstepped its authority last year when it announced […]

www.scotusblog.com

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hislegacy said:

Again - when will he figure out that we have a checks and balance system and he can't circumvent it.

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I'm guessing you both felt the same when Trump's first attempts at blocking immigration from Muslim countries was struck down?

Valletta said:

Actually the Supreme Court ruled that Trump's order was lawful.

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Yes, the second attempt was found to be lawful.

Valletta said:

Parts of Biden student loan forgiveness plan blocked by judges

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Very Good, all student loan forgiveness should be blocked! I've paid for the debt that I signed on the dotted line for, and so can everyone else.

I will let the experts decide. On the one hand, all students sign a promissory note basically "promising" to pay the loan back. There is really no getting out of it unless the Social Security Administration decided that you are disabled and not able to work in order to pay back the student loan. It's pretty cut and dried. Even though students don't read their promissory note giving it a quick online signature, they are responsible for paying that loan back. It's not given as a grant.

On the other side, someone bogged down with 80k in student loans (Some doctors up to 250k), Many of these people are not capable of stimulating the economy because all of their money goes to rent and loans. Some industries like teaching and other government positions that help the community may grant loan forgiveness provided that they work a certain number of years in an inner-city or rural school for example. The same with some doctors or dentists who work in community and free clinics for a base wage.

I am not against the free college to equalize the playing field but I don't think I can support totally canceling student loan debt, even if it would stimulate the economy and province upward movement for college grads. The main reason I feel that way is because of the signing of the promissory note by every student who gets a government loan. Also, there are multiple payback programs that take into account income level or lack thereof. There are deferments, forbearance, payment plans based on income, interest payments, etc So there are resources for those who borrowed more than their income potential. It's just that most of those programs aren't permanent..

Valletta said:

Actually the Supreme Court ruled that Trump's order was lawful. A small group of countries were not doing the proper security checks for potential terrorists, and those countries happened to be predominately Muslim. Travelers from other Muslim countries were, of course, still being allowed into the United States. The old "Islamaphobia" chants accompanied actions in the lower courts, again overruled by the Supreme Court. The Commander-in-chief is supposed to protect our nation's borders.

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As mentioned, it was only the second attempt that was found to be lawful, the first attempt was found to violate the Constitution. But thanks for showing the double standard -- you had no problem that Trump did that second try to be found lawful but you believe Biden was wrong for doing the same thing. I say that, because if you held the same standard for both President's, you'd have remembered and complained about Trump issuing a second Executive Order after the first was held unconstitutional -- instead, you defend the second order, obviously having no issue with Trump issuing a second order, and don't remember the first that was Unconstitutional.

Valletta said:

That's hardly a double standard, the double standard is what's going on in our country right now.

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Not so fast.
The situations were exactly the same:
Administration publishes an E.O., is taken to court, SCOTUS says “try again”, both do, but only one side is bad because his last name is “Biden”.

Valletta said:

Trump, as president, made national security decisions as to which countries were not complying with our national security standards. Many Muslim countries complied, but a few did not. Trump had to tweek the wording.

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I wish my washer had spin this good!

Valletta said:

Joe is trying to give away money before the election, once again to the wealthier part of America.

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Joe Biden (net worth ~$20 million) is trying to further enrich the FatCats while, billionaire Donald Trump is fighting for “the little guy”?
Riiight.

Valletta said:

Those who did not go on past high school are not being forgiven their debts run up due to Bidenomics.

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That’s right, we can’t help everyone…but why is it “bad” to help who we can?

Valletta said:

The Supreme Court ruled Joe had no such authority. Congress did not authorize it in the law, Joe, well aware of the Supreme Court ruling is going ahead, any way he can to subvert the law, in order to gain more votes.

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The Supreme Court ruling serves as a template for how to craft a new EO that takes into account of the high court’s ruling!
This is how the process is supposed to work, you’re complaining about “normal things” and frankly it’s scary.

Valletta said:

Once again too bad for the poor.

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