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'You can go straight to Hell': Republicans slam Senate bill's push to make women register for military draft

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A push to require women to register for the military draft is generating fierce backlash among members of the U.S. Congress, even as a bipartisan group of senators voted to advance massive legislation containing the controversial provision.

In a statement published Friday, the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee announced that it had voted 22-3 to advance the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2025 to the Senate floor. While Committee Chair Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., indicated that he voted against it when summarizing the contents of the bill, the identities of the other two senators who opposed the legislation remain unknown.

Reed acknowledged that the legislation makes "important progress in a number of areas, including a well-deserved pay raise for military servicemembers, powerful new security initiatives in the Indo-Pacific, and significant support for technologies like counter-drone defenses and AI" while expressing concern that "it includes a funding increase that cannot be appropriated without breaking lawful spending caps and causing unintended harm to our military."

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A push to require women to register for the military draft is generating fierce backlash among members of the U.S. Congress, even as a bipartisan group of senators voted to advance massive legislation containing the controversial provision.

In a statement published Friday, the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee announced that it had voted 22-3 to advance the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2025 to the Senate floor. While Committee Chair Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., indicated that he voted against it when summarizing the contents of the bill, the identities of the other two senators who opposed the legislation remain unknown.

Reed acknowledged that the legislation makes "important progress in a number of areas, including a well-deserved pay raise for military servicemembers, powerful new security initiatives in the Indo-Pacific, and significant support for technologies like counter-drone defenses and AI" while expressing concern that "it includes a funding increase that cannot be appropriated without breaking lawful spending caps and causing unintended harm to our military."

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Forcing women to register for the draft would probably make them pay attention to the horror of war a little better. They would have to existentially confront the idea that they might be drafted as a consequence of bad leadership and war-mongering. So not totally bad.
 
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Forcing women to register for the draft would probably make them pay attention to the horror of war a little better. They would have to existentially confront the idea that they might be drafted as a consequence of bad leadership and war-mongering. So not totally bad.

I see the point, but I'll note that (as a mom) the awareness that my children could be drafted to serve in one of the government's wars provides plenty of deterrent.

If Congress wants to be egalitarian, they could end draft registration altogether, for everyone.
 
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I see the point, but I'll note that (as a mom) the awareness that my children could be drafted to serve in one of the government's wars provides plenty of deterrent.
Unknown to me at the time my mother had plans to get me to Canada for the Vietnam war. I got a crazy high lottery number so there was no chance I would ever be drafted. But she had the plan.
If Congress wants to be egalitarian, they could end draft registration altogether, for everyone.
True. We have had an 'all volunteer' military for something like 40 years now. But they are failing in their recruitment goals AND they seem to recruit the bottom of the barrel most of the time anyhow. Drafting would mean they could meet their goals and have a representative cross section of society and abilities.

But then do we need to project police power around the world? Or neo-colonial power? How is China restrained from hegemony? Does that give us the right to hegemony? Tricky questions that need to be thought about. Not obvious to me in this more dangerous world of 2024 where Russian or Iranian or North Korean nukes could come falling out of the sky and the elements burn. The 1960s all over again with crazier people.

And do we really want to be so egalitarian that we draft moms? Do pregnant women get deferments?
 
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How "interesting" the the party that used to claim it was in favor of women - has now gone to trying to force them into the military, and then declares "I don't know what a woman is" while forcing women to compete with men - in women's sports - if they want to sin something.

How "odd"

Hopefully there is more than one or two women actually paying attention to this sort of thing. Elections are around the corner.
 
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In a society which emphasizes 'equality,' which women have largely demanded, they cannot demand a special exemption based on the fact that they are not biologically cut out for warfare. The last hundred years have been about destroying the distinctions between men and women and insisting, contrary to all common sense and reason, that men and women are completely and entirely equal and must be treated as such legally. Why shouldn't women be fed into the meatgrinder of the American Military machine if they want to fully participate in said system?

If anything, notions of the draft should reinforce how equality and egalitarianism are not viable especially in something as serious as war, because women will never be made (even if they are drafted) to into the frontlines of any potential war.
 
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I have mixed feelings on this... primarily since it's a rather secular matter. I understand that it would impact Christians as well and am therefore against it, for what I hope would be obvious reasons.

However, the US is a secular nation and becoming more so by the hour. I do not applaud this in any way but recognize that women have been pushing for all sorts of things in regard to a "balance of the sexes". Since men are required to register, women, in fairness to "equality" should be required as well... in the secular mindset.

But, as I said, what folks outside the church do, is really not my concern.
 
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If they vote against drafting women, they have to do away with drafting men. No choice. This is where we are... and we have no choice but to go all the way. I have a 16 year old granddaughter, an 8-year-old grandson, and a 12-year-old great. All or none. I vote none.
I agree 100%
 
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Exempting women from the draft made sense when they were limited in the ways they could actually serve in the military. But since all career fields are now open to women, it makes less sense.
are you referring to their monthly cycles that makes them limited or what?
 
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No, I was talking about how the law used to limit them to only serving in non-combat roles, a restriction that no longer exist.
Oh. My bad. I misunderstood.
 
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One glaring question is why now? This legislation will be unfavorable to female voters in my opinion. I know recruitment is low but does our government know something we don't?
This isn't the first time the NDAA had this provision in it at this stage. It was always amended out in the end though, which is likely to happen this time.
 
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A push to require women to register for the military draft is generating fierce backlash among members of the U.S. Congress, even as a bipartisan group of senators voted to advance massive legislation containing the controversial provision.

In a statement published Friday, the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee announced that it had voted 22-3 to advance the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2025 to the Senate floor. While Committee Chair Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., indicated that he voted against it when summarizing the contents of the bill, the identities of the other two senators who opposed the legislation remain unknown.

Reed acknowledged that the legislation makes "important progress in a number of areas, including a well-deserved pay raise for military servicemembers, powerful new security initiatives in the Indo-Pacific, and significant support for technologies like counter-drone defenses and AI" while expressing concern that "it includes a funding increase that cannot be appropriated without breaking lawful spending caps and causing unintended harm to our military."

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What happened to all that talk about equality?
 
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A push to require women to register for the military draft
Women want equality.

 
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