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US Bishops to Draft Document on Transgender People in Religious Life

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Chrystal-J

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So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them. (Genesis 1:27)
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The question took center stage in May, when a hermit in the Diocese of Lexington, Kentucky, publicly identified as transgender, as the Register reported last month.

A Catholic religious came out as transgender, but they are a “hermit” so don’t really push it in people’s faces.
 
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From the article:
The question took center stage in May, when a hermit in the Diocese of Lexington, Kentucky, publicly identified as transgender, as the Register reported last month.

A Catholic religious came out as transgender, but they are a “hermit” so don’t really push it in people’s faces.
But should this person be permitted to be a hermit in a male only hermitage?
 
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So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them. (Genesis 1:27)
Hopefully this document bans trans folks from going into any vocation that is not for the sex-assigned-at-birth. We do not want trans priests in our Church.
 
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Hopefully this document bans trans folks from going into any vocation that is not for the sex-assigned-at-birth. We do not want trans priests in our Church.
I agree. Confusion is not needed in the Church.
 
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I agree. Confusion is not needed in the Church.
Amen to this. This gender stuff should belong in the bedroom to age 18+ individuals, and not the Church. Ideally, this trans stuff should not even exist at all.
 
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Amen to this. This gender stuff should belong in the bedroom to age 18+ individuals, and not the Church. Ideally, this trans stuff should not even exist at all.
Exactly. I feel that someone entering the Church with the intention of corrupting it from the inside is a selfish, corrupt person.

James 3:16

For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder and every vile practice.
 
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Exactly. I feel that someone entering the Church with the intention of corrupting it from the inside is a selfish, corrupt person.

James 3:16

For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder and every vile practice.
Reminds me of these verses as well.

2 Timothy 4:3 (ESV): "For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions"

Revelation 2:14-15 (forgot to put translation): "Nevertheless, I have a few things against you: There are some among you who hold to the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to entice the Israelites to sin so that they ate food sacrificed to idols and committed sexual immorality. Likewise, you also have those who hold to the teaching of the Nicolaitans."
 
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Why an LGBT person would be a Catholic or Christian in general befuddles me.
I am a bi guy, but am Christian and will remain celibate, unless married to a woman, so Christian LGBs exist.
 
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I am a bi guy, but am Christian and will remain celibate, unless married to a woman, so Christian LGBs exist.
I didn't say I didn't think they existed. I said I'm baffled any LGBT would want to be a Catholic or a Christian.
 
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I didn't say I didn't think they existed. I said I'm baffled any LGBT would want to be a Catholic or a Christian.
To be fair, not all Christian denominations have issues with the LGBT community. There are Christian churches with LGBT clergy, and plenty that will perform same-sex marriages as well.
 
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To be fair, not all Christian denominations have issues with the LGBT community. There are Christian churches with LGBT clergy, and plenty that will perform same-sex marriages as well.
Those must not of read the bible. I could respect them more if they made up a new religion instead of claiming to be Christian and denying it's teachings.
 
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Those must not of read the bible. I could respect them more if they made up a new religion instead of claiming to be Christian and denying it's teachings.
Arguably, the only requirement in order to call yourself Christian is that you follow the teachings of Christ. And Christ Himself didn't have a whole lot to say about the subject. Most Christian teaching on homosexuality comes from Paul, with a side of Old Testament.

At any rate, arguing about who is and isn't Christian goes against the rules of the forum, so not much point in continuing this.
 
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I didn't say I didn't think they existed. I said I'm baffled any LGBT would want to be a Catholic or a Christian.
Well, @RocksInMyHead said that there are Christian denominations which support the LGBT movement. For myself, I do not support the LGBT movement, but I will not judge them (as God commanded us to love our neighbors), as long as the LGBT do not force it onto others.
 
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Arguably, the only requirement in order to call yourself Christian is that you follow the teachings of Christ. And Christ Himself didn't have a whole lot to say about the subject. Most Christian teaching on homosexuality comes from Paul, with a side of Old Testament.

At any rate, arguing about who is and isn't Christian goes against the rules of the forum, so not much point in continuing this.
I'm sure Jesus wouldn't of approved of the LGBT+ movement, as it involves sexual sin. And the bible is an indisputable resource for Christian living, whether it came from the words of Jesus or that of the Holy Spirit (through the Saints).
2 Timothy 3:16–17, "All Scripture is God-breathed and. is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and. training in righteousness, so that the servant of God. may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."
 
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the LGBT do not force it onto others.
That's the quandary. As the movement grows, it becomes more intolerable of other's beliefs and creates situations in which Christian living is in peril.
 
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That's the quandary. As the movement grows, it becomes more intolerable of other's beliefs and creates situations in which Christian living is in peril.
Agreed. I have noticed that in the past few years. The LGBT movement is growing, and is sadly becoming more intolerable of Christians.
 
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Agreed. I have noticed that in the past few years. The LGBT movement is growing, and is sadly becoming more intolerable of Christians.
Why would they be tolerant of those who are intolerant towards them?
 
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Why would they be tolerant of those who are intolerant towards them?
Because they're always touting how they only want 'tolerance', yet can't extend the same to others.
 
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Why would they be tolerant of those who are intolerant towards them?
I am tolerant of LGBT stuff, just as long as they keep this stuff in the bedroom between two consenting adults, and not aired out in public.
 
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