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How embarrassing! Putin is off to North Korea with his begging bowl.

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Russian president is to visit North Korea for first time in 24 years to seek continued military support.

North Korea is one of the poorest nations in the world and relies on a constant stream of aid from other countries.

 
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Russian president is to visit North Korea for first time in 24 years to seek continued military support.

North Korea is one of the poorest nations in the world and relies on a constant stream of aid from other countries.

Our enemies would not be canoodling if the US was strong.
 
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Our enemies would not be canoodling if the US was strong.
Do think that America isn't strong? This is from Wikipedia:

The U.S. Armed Forces are considered the world's most powerful military, especially since the end of the Cold War.[20] The military expenditure of the U.S. was US$916 billion in 2023, the highest in the world, accounting for 37% of the world's defense expenditures.[21] The U.S. Armed Forces has significant capabilities in both defense and power projection due to its large budget, resulting in advanced and powerful technologies which enable widespread deployment of the force around the world, including around 800 military bases outside the U.S.[22] The U.S. Air Force is the world's largest air force, followed by the U.S. Army Aviation Branch. The U.S. Naval Air Forces is the fourth-largest air arm in the world and is the largest naval aviation service, while U.S. Marine Corps Aviation is the world's seventh-largest air arm. The U.S. Navy is the world's largest navy by tonnage.[23] The U.S. Coast Guard is the world's 12th-largest maritime force.[24] The U.S. Space Force is the world's only active independent space force.[25]
 
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Do think that America isn't strong? This is from Wikipedia:

The U.S. Armed Forces are considered the world's most powerful military, especially since the end of the Cold War.[20] The military expenditure of the U.S. was US$916 billion in 2023, the highest in the world, accounting for 37% of the world's defense expenditures.[21] The U.S. Armed Forces has significant capabilities in both defense and power projection due to its large budget, resulting in advanced and powerful technologies which enable widespread deployment of the force around the world, including around 800 military bases outside the U.S.[22] The U.S. Air Force is the world's largest air force, followed by the U.S. Army Aviation Branch. The U.S. Naval Air Forces is the fourth-largest air arm in the world and is the largest naval aviation service, while U.S. Marine Corps Aviation is the world's seventh-largest air arm. The U.S. Navy is the world's largest navy by tonnage.[23] The U.S. Coast Guard is the world's 12th-largest maritime force.[24] The U.S. Space Force is the world's only active independent space force.[25]
It's like being well-endowed - but impotent.
 
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Do think that America isn't strong? This is from Wikipedia:

The U.S. Armed Forces are considered the world's most powerful military, especially since the end of the Cold War.[20] The military expenditure of the U.S. was US$916 billion in 2023, the highest in the world, accounting for 37% of the world's defense expenditures.[21] The U.S. Armed Forces has significant capabilities in both defense and power projection due to its large budget, resulting in advanced and powerful technologies which enable widespread deployment of the force aground the world, including around 800 military bases outside the U.S.[22] The U.S. Air Force is the world's largest air force, followed by the U.S. Army Aviation Branch. The U.S. Naval Air Forces is the fourth-largest air arm in the world and is the largest naval aviation service, while U.S. Marine Corps Aviation is the world's seventh-largest air arm. The U.S. Navy is the world's largest navy by tonnage.[23] The U.S. Coast Guard is the world's 12th-largest maritime force.[24] The U.S. Space Force is the world's only active independent space force.[25]
Strength is in wisdom and will.

Vietnam and Afghanistan come to mind.
 
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Our enemies would not be canoodling if the US was strong.
I dunno, why bother canoodling is you felt strong and secure? This if clearly about the recent arms and mutual support agreement between the two nations.

You don’t do that if you feel secure.
 
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I dunno, why bother canoodling is you felt strong and secure? This if clearly about the recent arms and mutual support agreement between the two nations.

You don’t do that if you feel secure.
They definitely don't feel secure - but they would not move unless they felt they could get away with it.
 
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but they would not move unless they felt they could get away with it.
In which way are they breaking international law to warrant needing to 'get away ' with it?
 
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I heard that putin has gone there to get a Kim wig!
Well, he could obtain one here without the bother of that tedious journey and all that saluting the North Koreans go in for:


This one is Putin to a tee!

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Was the US "strong" in April 2019?
Yes. All those mighty forces all over the place and America's economic domination make America strong. It has been true for getting on for two hundred years.

When in that time did an American President go cap in hand to a tiny impoverished state and beg for weapons?
 
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Yes. All those mighty forces all over the place and America's economic domination make America strong. It has been true for getting on for two hundred years.

When in that time did an American President go cap in hand to a tiny impoverished state and beg for weapons?
Is that what putin is doing?
 
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Is that what putin is doing?
It certainly looks that way. There are (unconfirmed) reports of weapons transports from N. Korea to Russia already. Putin rarely leaves Russia so there must be a strong reason to make him. Russian is already being supplied from Iran, so it makes sense.
 
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It certainly looks that way. There are (unconfirmed) reports of weapons transports from N. Korea to Russia already. Putin rarely leaves Russia so there must be a strong reason to make him. Russian is already being supplied from Iran, so it makes sense.
Why not trade surplus oil for cheap bombs?

N Korea is enemy of their enemy. Like Iran.

So, use them.

It's not like USA has not supported the most
odious sort of villains when it served your geopol
interests.

" Hat in hand" is a foolish caricature.
 
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" Hat in hand" is a foolish caricature.
I disagree. Russia is badly stretched. A great deal of North Korean weaponry originated in Russia. Putin just wants it back and is ready to pay, in a bizarre inversion of the usual 'aid' Russia offers to its client states. (Without Russia North Korea would never have existed.)
 
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I disagree. Russia is badly stretched. A great deal of North Korean weaponry originated in Russia. Putin just wants it back and is ready to pay, in a bizarre inversion of the usual 'aid' Russia offers to its client states. (Without Russia North Korea would never have existed.)
Have it your way.
 
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