Is Jesus God?

tonychanyt · Jun 9, 2024

Jesus healed a man (B1) born blind in John 9:

35 Jesus heard that they [the Pharisees] had cast him [B1] out, and having found him he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?” 36He answered, “And who is he, sir, that I may believe in him?” 37 Jesus said to him, “You have seen him, and it is he who is speaking to you.” 38He said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him.

B1 thought Jesus was God.

Paul thought Jesus was God, Romans 9:

5 Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them proceeds the human descent of Christ, who is God over all, forever worthy of praise! Amen.

Is Jesus = God?

The equal sign carries mathematical import. In some sense, this is true; in others, it is not. It is better to stick to the Bible's wording and not over-generalize. God (or Godhead) is a complex concept in the Bible. God and Jesus are distinct manifestations.

Jesus says in Luke‬ ‭8:

39‬ "Return to your home, and declare how much God has done for you." And he went away, proclaiming throughout the whole city how much Jesus had done for him.

The above is a significant parallel between God and Jesus.

The church obtained by Jesus is the church of God in Acts 20:

28 Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.

Paul describes some bodily mechanics in Colossians 1:

19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him [Jesus]

Colossians 2:

9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,

Titus 2:

13 [We are] waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

The phrase could refer to one or two entities. Either way is fine.

2 Peter 1 echoes the same concept:

1 Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:

Christ is God.

John agrees. The Lord God says in Rev 1:

8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, who is and was and is to come—the Almighty.

Jesus says in Rev 22:

12 “Behold, I am coming soon, and My reward is with Me, to give to each one according to what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”

Both the Lord God and Jesus have the title "the Alpha and the Omega".

How can a man be God?

Numbers 23:

19a God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind.

Let statement H = ∀h, if h is a human, then h is not God.

One can produce logical proofs/evidences that Jesus was a human because Jesus was born a man. But then, we cannot apply H to Jesus. Jesus is the unique exception to that rule.

At the same time, one can also find logical proofs that Jesus is God because he is.

How do I resolve the issue?

I look at two sets of proofs/evidences/arguments:

Jesus is God.
Jesus is not God, ignoring the ones that merely prove that Jesus was a man.

I assign a weight to each argument in the two sets according to this weighting scheme: I overweigh direct statements over implied conclusions. I overweigh simple arguments over complicated ones.

So far, according to my weighting, Jesus is God comfortably outweighs the opposite.

BTW, I have not heard of proof of "Jesus is not God" that I didn't already know ten years ago, i.e., in the last ten years, I haven't heard anything new concerning Jesus is not God.

Next, is Jesus the Son of God?

John 10:

36 do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’?

Jesus claims that he is the Son of God.

How can Jesus be both God and Son of God?

Some Jews had no trouble with that kind of logic.

Jesus continued:

38b "even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.”

Yes, this is a first-order logical mystery. By faith, I believe that Jesus is God and the Son of God. This is a divine nature mystery.

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Stephen Andrew · Jun 13, 2024

Peace to all,

Thanks, good information on the mysteries of the faith.

To me, perhaps if concepts can be explaind so that even a child can undrerstand it, perhaps it could be true. We know the teachings of Christ are presented in parables for understanding. This, to me is a story derived through His Word, to me in logic that perhaps all can see or have seen in a similar way.

In the beginning was the Word, some refer to as: "The High Priest," or The Spirit that unites all in being, some say, blood type AB+, the universal acceptor.

Who do we say Jesus is? The keys, some say, depend on it, for salvation.

To me, in logic, in the Book of The Gospel According to John, from the first lines we can see the Divine Being in existance before creation was ever created was even created.

John 1:1-4, From the beginning:
In the beginning is The Word, the Spirit that unites.
And the Word was with God, the Son, the authority of creation and manifestation of all spirit and life through His Christ.
The Word was God, The Father, the Creator.

The Body, The Christ is powered by the living Spirit in His soul that unites His Being for all mankind to share becoming the will of the Father

And The Word became flesh as Jesus, the will of the spirit Father in the soul of the being in the Body of The Christ, united.

To me, logically, Jesus is God, and logically this is how we as redeemed can see God, The Creator, The Father in heaven, as Transfigured becoming His image, New Eyes, all in the New Eve, the Body of The Christ.

To me, this is the Logical proof Jesus is God that existed before creation as God can only. To me this may be proof, just in logic, and please advise if I have mis-calculated in logic with respect to the teachings of Christ in His New Covenant fulfillment of faith and morality.

Peace always,
Stephen

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