If God is Blessing Russia, Are They The Bad Guys?

com7fy8 · May 27, 2022

Blade said:
America made a convent with God.

. . . a little need for editing, here

America has not produced a major group of devout virgins, to my knowledge.

I would say, though, that Ukraine and the United States and Russia have had Christians praying for however God pleases to bless each of these countries. And I would say God's way of prayer has done each nation more good, than a number of their leaders have promised or tried to do.

Your obedience to God has done more good, than many unbelieving secular people and religious impostors have done, though they might put on quite a show.

Obedience gets God's things done, like with our example Abraham > > >

"'In your seed all the nations of the earth shall blessed, because you have obeyed My voice.'" (Genesis 22:18)

dms1972 · May 28, 2022

Hi Tom,

I just wanted to say your analysis of the cause of the sinking of the Moskva seems mostly valid, this doesn't mean I agree entirely with every thing you say however my point about the squall was not at all to suggest that was the primary reason or sole cause, or that the effects of a sea squall if it occured was unrelated what took place before, more a possible contributory factor which was unpredictable. We don't know if it would have made it to shore even in calm seas. In any case what took place cannot be determined by speculation, and nothing of the actual reasons for its sinking would change if I agreed entirely with you, or you entirely agreed with me. Basically I was discussing the point that another thread participant was saying it should not have sunk from two hits.

dms1972 · May 28, 2022

It´s the bankers war as usual. They know their false system must collapse. To remain in power over humanity they must get people to accept their "solution". That is presented through WEF.

A system with massive surveillance and no freedom at all.

So its not the freemasons this time?

Bankers are not the same thing as economists.

Basically I think we should stop shifting the entire blame on to single groups or sectors whether bankers, freemasons, or whatever. Then we can start to look at the some of the real factors and how they might interact in a complex world. But the whole problem is in the analysis, stop looking for a bogeyman organisation or sector first.

dms1972 · May 28, 2022

Political Realism in International Relations (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

Prudence, and not conviction of one’s own moral or ideological superiority, should guide political action. This is stressed in the fifth principle, where Morgenthau again emphasizes the idea that all state actors, including our own, must be looked at solely as political entities pursuing their respective interests defined in terms of power. By taking this point of view vis-à-vis its counterparts and thus avoiding ideological confrontation, a state would then be able to pursue policies that respected the interests of other states, while protecting and promoting its own.

dms1972 · May 28, 2022

I would say, though, that Ukraine and the United States and Russia have had Christians praying for however God pleases to bless each of these countries. And I would say God's way of prayer has done each nation more good, than a number of their leaders have promised or tried to do.

No doubt, and God decides how and whom to bless. Blessed are the peacemakers - they shall be called sons of God. Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the Earth.

Why did Jesus say "Blessed are the Meek"? Bible Meaning Explained (christianity.com)

com7fy8 said:
Your obedience to God has done more good, than many unbelieving secular people and religious impostors have done, though they might put on quite a show.

Some christians are passive pre-millenialists, who predict the end of the world and even suppose they know which nations are going to bring it about. Self-interested christians concerned only with being raptured before the tribulation haven't done much to bring about improved relations between nations.

roman2819 · May 28, 2022

What do you all think about this interview with American biomedical weapon expert Francis Boyle. He has real credentials that spanned 40 years, you can check for yourself.

https://www.[bless and do not curse... and do not curse]ute.com/video/iYBpMqAC4hig/

Benjamin Müller · May 29, 2022

https://twitter.com/JamesGRickards/status/1530200140820119552?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1530200140820119552|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://www.zerohedge.com/military/zelensky-signals-donbas-soon-fall-indescribably-difficult-russian-onslaught

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/zelensky-signals-donbas-soon-fall-indescribably-difficult-russian-onslaught

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If God isn't with Russia, then would they be winning?

Trogdor the Burninator · May 29, 2022

Isaac Aldermann said:
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https://www.zerohedge.com/military/zelensky-signals-donbas-soon-fall-indescribably-difficult-russian-onslaught

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If God isn't with Russia, then would they be winning?

Someone who tweets about conspiracy theories tweets a conspiracy theory. What a surprise.
And what did the Russians capture that was so significant? A railway junction in an already contested area.

Meanwhile, the "god is on their side" Russians have given up on Karkiv, a city barely 25klm from their own borders. A superpower that can't even hold a city almost touching their own territory.

cow451 · Jun 5, 2022

Maybe God isn’t on anyone’s side. If all have to account for our actions at the end of life, it won’t matter whether one is Russian or Ukrainian.

ElenaMaria_9 · Jun 9, 2022

Isaac Aldermann said:
Wheat Farmland Under Threat Worldwide As USDA Reveals Dismal Grain Outlook | ZeroHedge

The American Wheat Crop Futures

Versus Russia

So, Russia who is anti-gay and clinging to Christian values is being blessed with near-record wheat crops, whereas in America who is morally degenerating is facing a dismal wheat harvest.

Deuteronomy 28:15 If, however, you do not obey the LORD your God by carefully following all His commandments and statutes I am giving you today, all these curses will come upon you and overtake you: [16] You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country. [17] Your basket and kneading bowl will be cursed. [20] The LORD will send curses upon you, confusion and reproof in all to which you put your hand, until you are destroyed and quickly perish because of the wickedness you have committed in forsaking Him. [21] The LORD will make the plague cling to you until He has exterminated you from the land that you are entering to possess. [22] The LORD will strike you with wasting disease, with fever and inflammation, with scorching heat and drought, and with blight and mildew; these will pursue you until you perish. [23] The sky over your head will be bronze, and the earth beneath you iron. [47] Because you did not serve the LORD your God with joy and gladness of heart in all your abundance, [48] you will serve your enemies the LORD will send against you in famine, thirst, nakedness, and destitution. He will place an iron yoke on your neck until He has destroyed you.

See also Leviticus 26; Isaiah 5

So, if God uses famine to destroy the wicked and America has become a godless, moral degraded nation, facing one of the worst wheat harvests on record--is God with us? Likewise, if a country is turning to God and embracing Christian values and experiencing record harvest yields, is God with them? And if God is with them, wouldn't it be sin to be against them? Else we'd find ourselves even at odds with God?

So I have a simple question: if God is blessing Russia and cursing America (and other Western Countries), who are the bad guys?

Rain falls on the just and on the unjust fella
But mostly on the just
Because the unjust stole the just's umbrella

ElenaMaria_9 · Jun 9, 2022

I thought Deuteronomy 28 applied to the nation of biblical Israel not to modern day America

ElenaMaria_9 · Jun 9, 2022

cow451 said:
Maybe God isn’t on anyone’s side. If all have to account for our actions at the end of life, it won’t matter whether one is Russian or Ukrainian.

yes I thought under the New Covenant God deals with us as individuals and on judgement day the wicked are punished accordingly whilst God's people are redeemed forever?

apologies if I'm wrong I'm still learning

Benjamin Müller · Jun 10, 2022

ElenaMaria_9 said:
I thought Deuteronomy 28 applied to the nation of biblical Israel not to modern day America

I believe in British Israelism [visit britam.org ] which makes America the modern-day biblical House of Israel. And that covenant with Israel has not been broken. If you know of Jonathan Cahn, he frequently compares America to ancient Israel.

ElenaMaria_9 · Jun 10, 2022

Isaac Aldermann said:
I believe in British Israelism [visit britam.org ] which makes America the modern-day biblical House of Israel. And that covenant with Israel has not been broken. If you know of Jonathan Cahn, he frequently compares America to ancient Israel.

Ah, well I consider that the 12 tribes were scattered all over the earth.And now there are Israelites coming from all corners of the earth to live in israel. The Jewish people are making aliyah (returning) to their land in droves. From as far as Myanmar, America, the Ukraine, Russia, Britain etc

ElenaMaria_9 · Jun 10, 2022

And Ethiopia too . Plenty of Jews there. India also

dms1972 · Jun 10, 2022

Isaac Aldermann said:
I believe in British Israelism [visit britam.org ] which makes America the modern-day biblical House of Israel. And that covenant with Israel has not been broken. If you know of Jonathan Cahn, he frequently compares America to ancient Israel.

I don't quite understand what British Israelism has to do with whether or not God is blessing Russia? What do you mean by blessing?

Benjamin Müller · Jun 11, 2022

dms1972 said:
I don't quite understand what British Israelism has to do with whether or not God is blessing Russia? What do you mean by blessing?

What I mean by blessing is that God is removing the blessings which America (House of Israel) has held for so long i.e: Blessings of the field--we were once known as the Breadbasket of the World; Blessings of the body--we were strong, healthy and fit people; Blessings of the womb--baby boom and the echo; our enemies would flee seven ways. We haven't won a war since basically WW2.

Go through the blessings in Deuteronomy 28 and we had all of that. Now as we become a degenerate nation, you look at the curses and the curses are coming upon us. We were suppose to be a City on a Hill. To whom much is given, much is expected.

Now Russia, who is a gentile country; whose forefathers in ancient times did not make a covenant with God at Mt. Sinai are applying themselves to Christianity. To whom little is given, little is expected, but when they are trying to do much with what little they have--or what little they know--God is not a respecter of persons. He is going to bless them.

The ruble is higher than ever.
Russia has pretty much successfully completed their objectives in Ukraine.
Favorable weather conditions for their grain.

Meanwhile,

The dollar is sinking
Our weapons sent to Ukraine are disappearing
Ukraine most likely won't come out of this a whole country
Our crops are doing incredibly poor; it's either too wet or too dry

While they may not adhere to the same standards of blessings and cursings as Ancient Israel/Modern-Day Israel, God's still going to ensure their daily bread, so to speak, because they are trying to be Christian. And He's not going to leave nor forsake anyone trying to live His Way.

All I hear is 'Russia Bad'; and while no one is good but God; if God is going to remove blessings off of one country and bless another, then who is the lesser of the two evils, except the one receiving the blessings? So from a spiritual view: are they really the bad guys that our nation is trying to make them out to be?

Benjamin Müller · Jun 11, 2022

roman2819 said:
What do you all think about this interview with American biomedical weapon expert Francis Boyle. He has real credentials that spanned 40 years, you can check for yourself.

Your link is faulty; do you have another?

Halbhh · Jun 7, 2024

Benjamin Müller said:
So, Russia who is anti-gay and clinging to Christian values is being blessed with near-record wheat crops, whereas in America who is morally degenerating is facing a dismal wheat harvest.

This came to mind since Russia is currently declaring agricultural emergencies today in 10 regions.

I thought it would be good though to revisit your post -- I'm hoping you will.

(it's always good to be humble -- this is just the temporary world that will pass away and nothing here will be remembered in the Life to come -- so "store up treasures in heaven" Christ said, not on Earth....)

Let me highlight 2 things of interest to you, first:

In 2022 the U.S. was simply continuing to plant less acres in wheat, as more farmers choose to plant other crops instead....

As you can see here:

Corn and soybean acreage has increased since the 1990s, while fewer acres are planted with wheat

Since 1993, combined acreage planted to corn, wheat, soybeans, and upland cotton in the United States has ranged from 219 million to 242 million acres. Starting in the 1990s, policy changes increased planting flexibility provided to farmers. These changes have allowed farmers to respond to market signals for their cropping choices. Over the past 10 years (2014–23), the combined annual planting acreage for these crops has maintained a higher average (236 million acres) than the previous decade (232 million acres). Since 1993, the three highest combined annual planting totals for corn, wheat, soybeans, and cotton occurred in 2012, 2014, and 2018. Combined acreage in 2023 increased from the previous year to 238 million acres with increased corn and wheat plantings, which offset decreased soybean and cotton. Combined planted acreage for the four crops in 2023 marked their 7th largest since 1993.

USDA ERS - Agricultural Production and Prices

Markets for major agricultural commodities are typically analyzed by looking at supply-and-use conditions and implications for prices. From an economic perspective, these factors determine the market equilibrium. In the U.S. agricultural sector, many interactions and relationships exist between...

www.ers.usda.gov

Next, it's very notable that in 2022, the U.S. had a record total agricultural production value -- the highest ever value of all crops by far the U.S. has ever had.

So.....if you think agricultural production indicates if we are doing well as Christians, then in the year you thought the U.S. did poorly, in actual reality that year -- 2022 -- was a year that in reality the U.S. did the best ever agriculturally....

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