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The heresy of hell as self-inflicted

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I do not wish to deny that the punishment of hell is in a meaningful sense self-inflicted, it has been my aim to show that the denial that it is caused or willed by a just God leads to conclusions that threaten the foundation of the faith.

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https://www.crisismagazine.com/2018/heresy-hell-self-inflicted
 
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"I do not wish to deny that the punishment of hell is in a meaningful sense self-inflicted," Robertson says,
yet his title says hell self-inflicted is a heresy.
The article is already looking incoherent. Have your cake and eat it too?

Hell "'not willed by God” [Von Balthasar] "...entails that something created falls outside the order of divine providence," says Robertson.
"The Lord ...is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance" says 2 Peter 3:9.
What Robertson makes of 2 Peter 3:9 he doesn't say.

If something is created, it must be caused by God, says Robertson (rightly).
Robertson denies sin is created by God.
What if sin is hell and hell is sin?

Hell self-inflicted is no heresy.

“There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done." All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell. No soul that seriously and constantly desires joy will ever miss it. Those who seek find. Those who knock it is opened.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Great Divorce

"Though our Lord often speaks of Hell as a sentence inflicted by a tribunal, He also says elsewhere that the judgment consists in the very fact that men prefer darkness to light, and that not He, but His “word,” judges men. We are therefore at liberty—since the two conceptions, in the long run, mean the same thing—to think of this bad man’s perdition not as a sentence imposed on him but as the mere fact of being what he is. The characteristic of lost souls is their rejection of everything that is not simply themselves."
C. S. Lewis, The Problem of Pain
 
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It's not a very pleasant topic, and our humanintarian instincts mean we prefer to avoid talking about it.

I think it's quite real. i've often said the night my father died he appeared in my bedroom. After our conversation my last memory is seeing him screaming his head off and it was obvious something was coming for him, which I couldn not see.

So I accept it's reality as Christ described. He was the one who most vividly warned us about it.

But we didn't create Hell. It was created by God. I suppose a case coud be made that the fire of His love burns those who refuse to accept it. "No man can see my face and live".

But we choose - what God is offering us is eternal life in His presence which will be nothing but joy. It might involve some suffering getting there but that's what He's offering. If we reject it then what are we choosing and why?

As my father said at one point in our exchange "I can't believe how cruel and stupid I've been!! What was I trying to prove??!"

He could see what his choices had led to but it was too late. He'd made his choice.
 
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