Follow the feasts?

@lollykh said, "Why do you say some of the festivals have been fulfilled and some haven't?"

Hi again! The appointed times (moedim) are forever events that we are bound by covenant to keep as a 'remembrance'; not just of what was, but what is to come! It is Adonai that fulfills them. You asked about the last three that were not marked as fulfilled? Here is the short version.

1. Yom Teruah or the 'Day of Shouting' or the 'Day of Trumpets' - This is the traditional day of the Coronation of the King of Israel. It is presumed that Messiah Yeshua will take the throne after returning with a great number of His Saints to destroy the armies that have assembled against the land and people of Israel.
2. Yom Kippur is the day when Adonai judges the sins of the nation of Israel (<- the very short version). Since Messiah will come, not just as King, but as High Priest (Cohen Gadol) it is expected that He will judge Israel at that time.
3. Sukkot or the Feast of Tabernacles (Booths, etc.) is a joyous gathering of Israel where, for seven days, they take their meals and sleep in temporary shelters that afford a view of the stars. It is a time of remembrance of when they tabernacled in the wilderness with Adonai. This will be fulfilled also at His soon coming!

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I follow truth. I put away politics and religion debate and division. It's how I obey Isaiah 58. It's not about taking days off of work but keeping every day free from greed, lust, judging, contention, and division. In my opinion.

HopeSings said:

I follow truth. I put away politics and religion debate and division. It's how I obey Isaiah 58. It's not about taking days off of work but keeping every day free from greed, lust, judging, contention, and division. In my opinion.

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A very good philosophy indeed. Just don't forget the Master said, If you love me, keep my commandments.

Yahudim said:

A very good philosophy indeed. Just don't forget the Master said, If you love me, keep my commandments.

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Love fulfills the law. We see things differently that's all. Peace my friend.

lollykh said:

Hi,

Where in the Bible does it say Gentiles need to keep the Biblical feasts?


Cheers

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Hi lollykh,

In Matthew 5:18 Jesus Christ says that not one jot or tittle will pass from the law until heaven and earth disappear, until all things are accomplished. This is contradictory to Paul, who in order to advertise to the Gentiles removed legal restrictions but added even more commands to follow Matthew 12:43-45. This verse has been debated by Christians. Some believe all things were accomplished with the crucifixion. Many others believe this doesn't make sense because all of Revelation has not been accomplished, which includes heaven and earth passing away. Even so, there is nobody alive who is absent of transgression Ecclesiastes 7:20.

May I?

As a gentile, I have a deep desire to continue studying the Feast Days.
A couple of years ago I visited a church, a full gospel denomination. After talking with one of the elders, I suppose he was, and sharing my interest in them, he told me my interest was demonic.

HopeSings said:

Love fulfills the law. We see things differently that's all. Peace my friend.

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Yes, except when love[ truth ] is mixed with falsehood.

[ " For outside are dogs and sorcerers, and whoremongers and murderers and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie."]

be(t)et lamed resh said:

Yes, except when love[ truth ] is mixed with falsehood.

[ " For outside are dogs and sorcerers, and whoremongers and murderers and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie."]

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I don't mix lies with truth.

be(t)et lamed resh said:

Yes, except when love[ truth ] is mixed with falsehood.

[ " For outside are dogs and sorcerers, and whoremongers and murderers and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie."]

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HopeSings said:

I don't mix lies with truth.

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I made no such suggestion.
Just wanted to help temper the conversation.
Love isnt a general term in Hebrew.

be(t)et lamed resh said:

I made no such suggestion.
Just wanted to help temper the conversation.
Love isnt a general term in Hebrew.

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Love to me is true, holy and Godly. It's what God says is love. God is love.

lollykh said:

Sadly, yeah...

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Yusuphhai said:

If one does not live in Jewish or Messianic Jewish communities, it will be more difficult to observe these festivals.

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Good thing, they are prophecies which is why they come by the title of "rehearsals". "Keeping" the feasts has more to do with studying the purposes behind the timing, the "rehearsal" (play acted out) so that the identifying of the future fulfillment [when they come to pass], makes more sense. There were only a few during the fulfillment of the spring time feasts, that figured out it was happening before their eyes. We want to be aware and recognise when the fall feasts are happening before our eyes.

While it is enjoyable to gather with fellow believers during the times of the various feasts and rejoice with them, they are not the "be all end all" of the feasts themselves. I believe it is more important to understand their role in prophecies than attendance.

visionary said:

Good thing, they are prophecies which is why they come by the title of "rehearsals". "Keeping" the feasts has more to do with studying the purposes behind the timing, the "rehearsal" (play acted out) so that the identifying of the future fulfillment [when they come to pass], makes more sense. There were only a few during the fulfillment of the spring time feasts, that figured out it was happening before their eyes. We want to be aware and recognise when the fall feasts are happening before our eyes.

While it is enjoyable to gather with fellow believers during the times of the various feasts and rejoice with them, they are not the "be all end all" of the feasts themselves. I believe it is more important to understand their role in prophecies than attendance.

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Have you ever considered that the word, 'sorcery" applies to the Greeks " and their ashkewed view of jewish history ?

HARK! said:

How would that be relevant to the topic of this thread?

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Observe the pesack on shabbat[double bet is vav] I know the math is strange to strangers. Regardless of what the sadduccee greek pigs serving herod say when serving the sun!
Yeshua was clear in his direction to the disciples.

["The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.3 So you must obey them and do everything they tell you.] 2 wings on ears

Teachers of Torah are the essenes! They are also the keepers of scribal tradition.

Do you disagree with my jewish tradition and sandals of camel hide?

lollykh said:

Hi,

Where in the Bible does it say Gentiles need to keep the Biblical feasts?


Cheers

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The Torah asks' with gentle fire on stone.
Asks' with water out of stone from every child of earth with courage enough to name after listening from the womb.