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On the Cross....Jesus became your sin.........all of it.

2 Corinthians 5:21

On the Cross....Jesus became your sin.........all of it.

2 Corinthians 5:21

Jesus took it all upon Himself and DIED, and it ended there.
He didn't come out of the Grave with your sin on Him......He left it, and that is were you sin is found.
Its not on you. It's on the Cross of Christ....and its gone if you are born again.

When you read that you are "made righteous", having become "the righteousness of God, in Christ", .. that is indeed the reality regarding all the born again.
God has established you as "in Christ", "made righteous" and there you remain for as long as God lives.
This is why the NT teaches you that : "as Jesus IS........so are the born again, in THIS world".

Romans 4:8 says that God does not charge you with your sin.
2 Corinthians 5:19, said that you are not charged with any sin.......not ever again.
The CROSS of Christ is the reason why

So, who is charged with all your sin????

A.) Jesus on the Cross. = He is your "one time eternal sacrifice for ALL sin".

= Not some.....not a few, but ALL sin.......all of it.

And you say....."what about what i did yesterday".

ALL OF IT.
Jesus Became your sin and died for them ALL.

"Jesus is the ONE TIME... ETERNAL... sacrifice for sin"..

Now, in comes a heretic to tell you......."he is teaching you can live anyway you want".

But that is not true.
Its not true that because you are as sinless as the Blood of God on the Cross can make you, and that is ' HOLY".. "RIGHTEOUS"...... "one with GOD"......that you can now live like the devil and face no consequences.. As you will reap what you sow = down here..
Sure.
Absolutely.
You will "reap what you have sown" down here, as that spiritual law didn't end with the Cross of Christ.
However, the judgment of God, against your sin, will NEVER FIND YOU now or in eternity, because JESUS has been judged for all your sin on the Cross, 2000 yrs ago.
He's died for them all., 2000 yrs ago.

WELCOME TO SALVATION !

And Reader, if you are born again.......then when you get this revelation, of being >made righteous<......it will not cause you to want to sin.
It will cause you to want to crawl on your hands and knees to the feet of Jesus and wash his feet with your tears and dry His feet with your hair.
THAT is what the GRACE of GOD does to you, when you understand it.
It HUMBLES you.. and causes you to Love God more and want to please Him more and more and more.
Thats a FACT.
It will cause you to love God more.
It will cause you to become more dedicated to righteous living.
iT will cause you to want to please God more than you have ever wanted to before, and it will sustain that, once you get the revelation.
It will cause you to say to God...."here is my life, take it God, use me, USE ME".. "I am YOURS">..


Listen...
The devil's ministers, first of all, do not want you to know you are eternally : "one with God' "made righteous".
They want you to believe you are just a "saved sinner", a discipleship failure, waiting to sin again and confess it again.
There false Gospel is Romans 9 and not God's Grace.

The truth is, you are a born again SAINT.. You exist as "seated in Heavenly places" in Christ.
You. have been MADE RIGHTEOUS, by God's "gift of Righteousness" and "Gift of Salvation".
The Blood of JESUS on the Cross has been applied to YOU, and it will keep you CLEAN and "made free from sin", forever.
See....Jesus has become your sin, if you are born again, and YOU have become "the righteousness OF GOD, IN CHRIST".
Thats who you are, if you are born again.
Get the revelation SAINT, and your walk with God will CHANGE so much into HOLY Spirit power and joy and perseverance,... and the New Testament, will begin to reveal to you it's hidden Light.
But you have to go here and stay here.

= Hebrews 13:9


Jesus took it all upon Himself and DIED, and it ended there.
He didn't come out of the Grave with your sin on Him......He left it, and that is were you sin is found.
Its not on you. It's on the Cross of Christ....its gone if you are born again, and you are not just some water baptized religious cult member.

When you read that you are "made righteous", having become "the righteousness of God, in Christ", .. that is indeed the reality of all the born again.
God has established you as "in Christ", "made righteous" and there you remain for as long as God lives.
This is why the NT teaches you that : "as Jesus IS........so are the born again, in THIS world".

Romans 4:8 says that God does not charge you with your sin.
2 Corinthians 5:19, said that you are not charged with any sin.......not ever again.
The CROSS of Christ is the reason why.
Im an evangelist who is CALLED to deliver that message., same as Paul....same as you, if you are born again.
That is the "message of reconciliation" that is The Gospel of the Grace of GOD.
This is the "preaching of the Cross".
This is the 'word of Salvation"...>"be you RECONCILED TO GOD".....by the CROSS of Christ.

So, who is charged with all your sin????

A.) Jesus on the Cross. He is your "one time eternal sacrifice for ALL sin".

= Not some.....not a few, but ALL sin.......all of it.

And you say....."what about what i did yesterday".

ALL OF IT.
Jesus Became your sin and died for them ALL.

Now, in comes the devil to tell you......."he is teaching you can live like me", and His online ministers will be the first to tell you that.

But that is not true.
Its not true that because you are as sinless as the Blood of God on the Cross can make you, and that is ' HOLY".. "RIGHTEOUS"...... "one with GOD"......that you can now live like the devil and face no consequences.. As you will reap what you sow down here..
Sure.
Absolutely.
But the judgment of God, against your sin, will NEVER FIND YOU now or in eternity, because JESUS has been judged for all your sin on the Cross.
He's died for them all., 2000 yrs ago.

WELCOME TO SALVATION !

And Reader, and some of you are born again.......when you get this revelation, of being >made righteous<......it will not cause you to want to sin.
It will cause you to want to crawl on your hands and knees to the feet of Jesus and wash his feet with your tears and dry His feet with your hair.
THAT is what the GRACE of GOD does to you, when you understand it.
Thats a FACT.
It will cause you to love God more.
It will cause you to become more dedicated to righteous living.
iT will cause you to want to please God more than you have ever wanted to before, and it will sustain that, once you get the revelation.
It will cause you to say to God...."here is my life, take it God, use me, USE ME".. "I am YOURS">..


Listen...
The devil's ministers, first of all, do not want you to know you are "one with God' "made righteous".
They want you to believe you are just a "saved sinner", a Christian failure, waiting to sin again and confess it again.

But that is not the truth. They are lying to you on Forums and from Pulpits...
The truth is, you are a born again SAINT.. You exist as "seated in Heavenly places" in Christ.
You. have been MADE RIGHTEOUS, by God's "gift of Righteousness" and "Gift of Salvation".
The Blood of God on the Cross has been applied to YOU, and it will keep you CLEAN in God's perspective, forever.
Jesus has become your sin, if you are born again, and YOU have become "the righteousness OF GOD, IN CHRIST".
Thats who you are, if you are born again, and not just some religious water baptized religious fakir.

Get the revelation, and your walk with God will CHANGE so much into power and joy and perseverance,... and the New Testament, will begin to reveal to you it's hidden Light.
But you have to go here and stay here.

God bless you to see it.

= Hebrews 13:9
 
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2 Corinthians 5:21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

This is an extremely important verse to show imputing our sins to Christ, so the imputing of righteousness to man seems logical, BUT:

Is that even a good translation?

What does “Christ made to be sin” or “Christ made sin” mean: did Christ become a sinner, did a being become an intangible thing like “sin” and are there other scripture to help us with this?

If you go to the NIV there is an alternative translation for at the bottom where “sin offering” is given as an alternative to “being made sin” and we all know Christ was a “sin offering”, so what support is there for that translation?

Paul being a scholar of the Torah, used a Hebraism. In this case, the Hebrew word for "sin" was also used to mean "sin offering" (see the Hebrew word: chatta'ath), and thus to be "made sin" was a Hebrew way of saying "made a sin offering". the NASB cross-references to Romans 8:3 which uses "sin offering" in a similar text as 2 Corinthians 5:21

There is the analogy in 2 Corinthians 8:9; the cross-reference to the clearer statement in Romans 8:3 that Christ was sent "in the likeness of sinful flesh" to deal with sin; and the allusion to Sacrifice in 2 Corinthians 5:21 where it says Christ "knew no sin" in corresponding to the sacrificial animal being free of blemish (otherwise Paul saying "knew no sin" would be irrelevant here).

The Greek word for "sin" that Paul uses is used in the Greek Old Testament both to mean "sin" and "sin offering," with both usages even in the same verse such as in Leviticus 4:3.

You can certainly do a deeper study of 2 Cor 5: 21 and we can go into Ro.3-4.
 
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This is an extremely important verse to show imputing our sins to Christ, so the imputing of righteousness to man seems logical, BUT:

""Jesus is the one time... ETERNAL Sacrifice.. for sin".

"The sin of the World".

1st Adam, caused the fall of us all, and 2nd Adam resolved it on The Cross of Christ.

Being born again, Proves that God has, through the finished work of Jesus on the Cross, resolved it per BELIEVER.
 
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""Jesus is the one time... ETERNAL Sacrifice.. for sin".

"The sin of the World".

1st Adam, caused the fall of us all, and 2nd Adam resolved it on The Cross of Christ.

Being born again, Proves that God has, through the finished work of Jesus on the Cross, resolved it per BELIEVER.
The Bible does not say after Adam and Eve sinned: “Man’s nature changed”, or “The sin of Adam and Eve was pasted on”. It does say the knowledge of good and evil came into the world and does not use the word “fall” to describe this.

Is knowledge bad in and of itself?

To refute the idea: “Children and anyone else that has not reached mature adulthood have not sinned yet and do not need saving, since they have done nothing wrong. They are in a safe condition.” Using:

Rom 3:23 says "for ALL have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God".

“All have sinned”, so is Paul addressing an unborn child with that statement? Paul did not say we “all” inherited Adam and Eve’s sin, but all have (actually) sinned. It also does not say we inherited even a “sinful nature”, but talks about knowledge, so does knowledge=nature? “All” does not have to include everyone including unborn children, but could be referring to all of us (whom Paul is addressing at that time Christians who can understand his letter).

If a child does not sin than they are in a safe state not needing saving, since they are not lost.

Because Adam and Eve sinned prior to fulfilling their earthly objective, in what some would consider than they and as we can see all of us will need additional help in fulfilling our objective. God will do anything and allow anything to help willing individuals fulfill their objective and that everything includes: Christ going to the cross, satan roaming the earth, tragedies of all kinds, death, hell, and even allowing humans to sin.

Babies or anyone who dies without the opportunity to fulfill their earthly objective would enter heaven lacking Godly type Love, but would have a wonderful obedient child to wonderful parent type love.

There is much more to say, but you can chew on this.
 
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The Bible does not say after Adam and Eve sinned: “Man’s nature changed”, or “The sin of Adam and Eve was pasted on”.

Sure it does, but you have to study the bible.

Jesus says it here.


"YOU are of YOUR FATHER, the DEVIL, and the LUSTS of YOUR FATHER, you shall do".

Who is that?

That is the "adamic nature".. That is Every UNBELIEVER "born in Sin", or as Jesus says of = HUMANITY.

"""""If you do not believe that i am the MESSIAH and trust in me then you will DIE in your SINS:""""".


See those sins?
That is the SIN NATURE of "your father the devil".

Why do unbelievers go to Hell?
Because "Hell was created for the DEVIL and His Angels", and so All unbeliever are "Of YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL", so they end up THERE.. = with their spiritual Father...

UNLESS...

The do this...

= Jesus said... "YOU (all unbelievers) MUST be born again".. and when that happens then the unbeliever NOW BORN AGAIN by a NEW Spiritual FATHER....,= will die eventually and go to their : HEAVENLY Father.

See how that works?
 
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That is not Paul's message.


And that He died for all, that they which live should henceforth not live unto themselves,
but unto Him that died for them and rose again.

2 Corinthians 5:15

....that we may become the righteousness of God in Him.
2 Corinthians 5:21

We then as workers together with Christ, beseech you also
that you receive not the grace of God in vain.

( Receive not the Spirit in vain )

Because you are the temple of the living God,
as God has said, I will dwell in them and walk in them;
and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
2 Corinthians 6:1-17

Having therefore these promises dearly beloved,
let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit
perfecting holiness in the Lord.
2 Corinthians 7:1

Because if we sin willingly, after that we have received knowledge of the truth,
there remains no more sacrifice for sin,
but a certain fearful looking for of judgement and fiery indignation which shall devour the adversaries.
Hebrews 10:26-29

He that despised Moses law died without mercy under two or three witnesses.
Of how much worse punishment suppose ye shall he be worthy who has....
insulted the Spirit of grace?
Hebrews 10:29

For by grace you have been saved, through faith,
and that not of yourselves,
The Holy Spirit is the gift of God, not of works, [ Acts 2:38, Luke 11:13 ]
lest any man should boast.
Because we are Gods creation created in Christ Jesus for good works
Ephesians 2:8-10



Paul's message is:

What avails anything is faith that works by love.

Because faith without works is dead, being alone.


Be not deceived God is not mocked,
for whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap.
He that sows to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption
He that sows to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Not by works of righteousness we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, by the washing of regeneration
and renewing of the Holy Ghost, which He shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Lord.

These things I would that you constantly affirm, that they which have believed should be careful to maintain good works.
 
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These things I would that you constantly affirm, that they which have believed should be careful to maintain good works.

There are unbelievers who do more good works then many Christians.

Will they go to heaven?

Do you understand why God wont have their "good works', to accept them? @contratodo ???????????

So, its true that the born again are to "present your body as a living sacrifice to God, as your reasonable SERVICE"..

But that SERVICE is nothing more and nothing less, and God does not accept anyone based on service or enduring or self effort or performance or keeping law and commandments or for being water baptized 34 times.

See "The Cross of Christ" for the reason why God wont have any of that to FORGIVE and REDEEM someone.
 
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There are unbelievers who do more good works then many Christians.

It is not about doing good works, it is about actually following Christ.


As many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the ones born of God.
Romans 8:14


My sheep hear my voice, I know them, and they follow me,
and I give unto them eternal life
John 10:27 John 10:28

I say unto you that hear, love
Luke 6:27

Are we His sheep? Do we hear Him?
 
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It is not about doing good works, it is about actually following Christ.

Disciples "follow" Christ.

And that means you can do it, and not go to heaven.

Notice : = """Depart from me, i never knew you""... Jesus said of FOLLOWERS.

And why did those followers of Jesus who were casting out devils, (in Jesus name) = die and go to hell?

Its because those FOLLOWERS of Jesus, never did this..

Jesus said.. "You must be born again".
 
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Sure it does, but you have to study the bible.

Jesus says it here.


"YOU are of YOUR FATHER, the DEVIL, and the LUSTS of YOUR FATHER, you shall do".

Who is that?
If we are sinners we follow satan and we are his child by our choice. Do you feel we are conceived children of satan, hell bound and are not of our own free will choosing to follow satan?

People like to blame satan, Adam& Eve, bad luck, sin, evil in the world and even God for being hell-bound, but should we blame ourselves, since God, the perfect judge, is holding us accountable and not these other things?
That is the "adamic nature".. That is Every UNBELIEVER "born in Sin", or as Jesus says of = HUMANITY.
Did Adam start out with “Adam’s nature”, because I fully agree we all started out with Adam’s nature.
"""""If you do not believe that i am the MESSIAH and trust in me then you will DIE in your SINS:""""".


See those sins?
That is the SIN NATURE of "your father the devil".
Are you blaming the devil, so it is not your fault
Why do unbelievers go to Hell?
Because "Hell was created for the DEVIL and His Angels", and so All unbeliever are "Of YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL", so they end up THERE.. = with their spiritual Father...

UNLESS...

The do this...

= Jesus said... "YOU (all unbelievers) MUST be born again".. and when that happens then the unbeliever NOW BORN AGAIN by a NEW Spiritual FATHER....,= will die eventually and go to their : HEAVENLY Father.

See how that works?
All mature adults’ sin, which makes them satan’s servants and his children.

Only the unforgiven sins, those you refused to accept God’s forgiveness (Love) of, cause you to go to hell.

Are you limiting God’s ability to save and forgive others by saying there is only one way?
 
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If we are sinners we follow satan and we are his child by our choice.

"by one man's SIN" all became sinners.

The Fall of Adam, is the fall of us all.

The 2nd Adam, who is Jesus The Christ, came to restore for us what Adam #1 lost for us.

A.) Spiritual Union with God

AA).= BORN... again..


Only the unforgiven sins, those you refused to accept God’s forgiveness (Love) of, cause you to go to hell.

That is the unpardonable sin.
That is to die a Christ Rejector, never born again.


Are you limiting God’s ability to save and forgive others by saying there is only one way?

There is only one way to be forgiven

Jesus Said so..

John 14:6

This is The CROSS of CHRIST....

Jesus will explain it to you in the following ....

New International Version
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

New Living Translation
Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.

English Standard Version
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Berean Standard Bible
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Berean Literal Bible
Jesus says to him, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father, if not by Me.

King James Bible
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

New King James Version
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

New American Standard Bible
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me.

NASB 1995
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

NASB 1977
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me.

Legacy Standard Bible
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but through Me.

Amplified Bible
Jesus said to him, “I am the [only] Way [to God] and the [real] Truth and the [real] Life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
 
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Jesus said.. "You must be born again".

Unless a man be born of water and of the Spirit he can not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 3:5-6

As many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the children of God.
Romans 8:14

They are the ones born of the Spirit.
They are the ones born again.




There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus,
who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit.
Romans 8:1

Because the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus,
has made me free from the law of sin, and free from death.
Romans 8:2

That the righteous requirement of the law [ Deuteronomy 10:16-19 Romans 2:29, 13:9 ]
might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Romans 8:4

Because as many as are led by the Spirit of God,
they are the children of God.
Romans 8:14


Paul therefore explains that being born again, being a child of God, means, being led by the Spirit.
Paul does not say that we become born again automatically.
Paul explains that our lifestyle as believers, must, be a life led by the indwelling Spirit. [ Romans 8:13 ]
If we grieve and insult the Spirit up until we die, we would be worthy of worse punishment than a non believer.
[ 1 Timothy 5:8 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 Hebrews 10:29 ]

As many would agree, if someone truly believes, a turn from a sinful lifestyle will happen,
if not, it is that that person does not sincerely believe, or values something more than the Spirit,
because the change happens by the indwelling Spirit in a sincere believer.

The Holy Spirit is part of our prize, we should understand it so,
and therefore value the Holy Spirit as a piece of heaven that we have now.


There is only 1 way, Christ is the way

Now the Lord is the Spirit
2 Corinthians 3:17

The words He spoke are Spirit and life John 6:63.

His message is the good news, [ Luke 4:18-21 ] His message is the foundation of Paul's message, [ 1 Cor. 3:4-11 ]
His teachings are the narrow path, the way.

We must follow Him if we want to end up in heaven. John 14:24 1 Corinthians 16:22
His indwelling Spirit equips us to follow Him.
Romans 8:13-14 2 Corinthians 7:1 Galatians 5:22-24

Jesus said to the evil Pharisees:
I know that you are Abraham's descendants;
but you seek to kill me,
because my word has no place in you.

John 8:37

I speak that which I have seen with my Father
John 8:38

If you meet your enemies animal going astray, give it back to him.
If you see one that hates you struggling with his burden,
even if you don't want to help him, you shall surely help him with it.
Exodus 23:4-5 In other words: Love your enemies and do good to them that hate you.
[ Deuteronomy 10:16-19 Moses summarized the law as love for the stranger ]
[ The prophets also; Isaiah 1:11-17 Jeremiah 22:3-4 Zechariah 7:9-12 ]

Even today passages such as Exodus 23:4-5 and Leviticus 19:33-34 are not included
in the 'Jewish' 'Mitzvot'.

A born again person however, hears the voice of the Lord,
a born again person is under the new covenant,
having the whole law in their minds and hearts. Jeremiah 31:33

Jesus is the messenger of the new covenant. [ Malachi 3:1 ]

In conclusion, treat people the way you would want to be treated,
for this is the law and the prophets.

Matthew 7:12

My sheep hear my voice, I know them, and they follow me
And I give unto them eternal life
and they shall never perish neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

John 10:27-28

I say unto you that hear, love your enemies, do good to them that hate you.
Luke 6:27
 
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Unless a man be born of water and of the Spirit he can not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Here is a fact.

Water can't give birth to the Spirit..

So, once a person understands this, and looks at that verse then they understand that Jesus is talking about 2 Births.

One is, the day you are born,...... and your mother's water breaks, and that is born of water, and out you came, all WET.

But then, Jesus says, you must be "BORN AGAIN".. .and why again?

Because your 1st birth, of your mother, is not The Spiritual Birth that is required by God, that is to become "born.... again".. "in Christ".
 
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Because your 1st birth, of your mother, is not The Spiritual Birth that is required by God, that is to become "born.... again".. "in Christ".
Yes, 2 births.
And just as your water birth took nine months and was very painful.
Your spiritual birth also has process, and time.

Because as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the children of God.
Romans 8:14

In other words,
as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the ones born again.
 
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Yes, 2 births.
And just as your water birth took nine months and was very painful.
Your spiritual birth also has process, and time.

You are confusing the pregnancy of the woman, with the birth of the Child.
The actual birth, only takes a short time... as once the baby is in the birth canal, and the Labor is ongoing, then out comes the BIRTH'd Baby.

The 9 months prior is not the birth.. its the pregnancy.
The birth is when the baby comes OUT of the mother.
The mother's water breaks and the baby is born of water......You came out WET, Reader..

And with being born again......

A lifelong sinner is lead of the Holy Spirit, after hearing the Gospel of the Cross of Christ, to BELIEVE.
They have "come to the KNOWLEDGE of the Truth".....
But the person has to BELIEVE IT, or it just remains as knowledge, and that is not FAITH.

FAITH is when you have the knowledge of the truth, that You need to be saved by Jesus the Savior, and you BELIeVE it.

See that? that is FAITH in Christ... that is to "repent from unbelief"..

And some are 8 yrs old when they Trusted in Christ and some are 98 and on their Death Bed, when they Trusted in Christ.

And God SEES that TRUST... .as this is FAITH in their HEART, and He SEES IT, and He accepts it, instantly.

He then takes the Blood and Death of Jesus and deals with the sin of the person, and having now forgiven ALL their sin, He then joins Himself to their Spirit, which causes it to be BORN... again, ......as "a new Creation"... "in Christ"..

That is when the person becomes the CHRISTian......
 
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