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BCP1928 · Mar 26, 2024

BNR32FAN said:
Oh no brother he did answer it, he finally admitted that he believes Genesis 1 has errors.

What error did I admit to? You have no idea of what I believe about the Bible or why and apparently have no interest in finding out.

AV1611VET · Mar 26, 2024

BCP1928 said:
Not tough it all.

* cough *

Sorry.

BCP1928 said:
That verse doesn't teach the literal inerrancy of Genesis.

What verse?

About Adam?

Adam was the first man on Earth.

BCP1928 said:
I can't even imagine why you think it does.

A literal interpretation of the Bible is the default interpretation; unless the Bible says otherwise.

BCP1928 said:
But really, it's off topic for this forum.

How convenient.

AV1611VET · Mar 26, 2024

BNR32FAN said:
Oh no brother he did answer it, he finally admitted that he believes Genesis 1 has errors.

Ya.

I caught that after I had posted.

I do applaud his honesty and willingness to answer it.

Many won't.

:oldthumbsup:

BNR32FAN · Mar 26, 2024

BCP1928 said:
The Bible names the first man Adam; it's a pun. But the entire statement that I was supposed to agree with was that Adam was the first man and created 6000 years ago, which is not part of Gnesis.

I didn’t say anything about it being part of Genesis I said it was what the Bible teaches. Why are we limiting the discussion to Genesis now? We all know that the birth of Jesus wasn’t recorded in Genesis so obviously the genealogy record from Adam to Jesus can’t be found in Genesis. What it seems like is your having a lot of trouble pretending that the Bible doesn’t teach that Adam was the first man and that he was created 6,000 years ago. Wouldn’t have just been much easier to admit the truth?

AV1611VET · Mar 26, 2024

BNR32FAN said:
Are you talking about BCP? Because I checked his/her profile and it doesn’t say on my end.

I think Estrid is talking about AG_BIC96.

Since Estrid said this:

The op was essentially a gish. As such it was too much
for a comprehensive response, hence short appraisals like
"Bollocks"..

If he'd care to start over, and present ideas/ opinions one
at time, then a reasoned/ reasonable discussion is
possible.

BNR32FAN · Mar 26, 2024

BCP1928 said:
What error did I admit to? You have no idea of what I believe about the Bible or why and apparently have no interest in finding out.

I tried to end the discussion in this thread because you said it was off topic but then you kept going on about it. Just a minute ago you didn’t want to discuss it anymore and I tried to just leave it at that. Now you’re expecting me to inquire about your beliefs on the subject. I tried to inquire about your beliefs on Adam and the age of the earth and you refused to answer. And now it’s my fault that I don’t know anything about what you believe?

AV1611VET · Mar 26, 2024

BNR32FAN said:
I tried to end the discussion in this thread because you said it was off topic but then you kept going on about it. Just a minute ago you didn’t want to discuss it anymore and I tried to just leave it at that. Now you’re expecting me to inquire about your beliefs on the subject. I tried to inquire about your beliefs on Adam and the age of the earth and you refused to answer.

Either shut up or keep talking.

Do one of the two.

(Just kidding!

)

BNR32FAN · Mar 26, 2024

AV1611VET said:
Either shut up or keep talking.

Do one of the two.

(Just kidding! )

Ya know I can’t help but get this strange feeling that evolution does actually teach that the Bible is wrong, otherwise people wouldn’t be avoiding the conversation when I post certain passages of scripture and they don’t want to discuss them.

AG_BIC96 · Mar 26, 2024

BNR32FAN said:
Yeah this guy has no business quoting the rules I can tell you that which is precisely why I can’t see his posts anymore.

Thank you for your support I appreciate you commenting and being understanding.

Estrid · Mar 26, 2024

AG_BIC96 said:
Nope, is it not true? I don't really care you can highlight as much as you like but you attacked first and foremost and we have the comments to prove that. I see you are still commenting and must feel very strongly on the subject. Can you kindly leave as we discussed before?

So. Saying it's impossible to be an
Informed and intellectually honest
yec type fundamentalist is an attack?
It's very demonstrably true.

In the event, if you think you can level
false charges then say "go away " so you get
the last word you can think again.

What are you even doing here? You post
a gish o garbage, ask opinions, then ignore them
or get mad and call names when your mistakes are
pointed out.

I kind of doubt there's much
god- inspiration going on there.

Estrid · Mar 26, 2024

BNR32FAN said:
Ya know I can’t help but get this strange feeling that evolution does actually teach that the Bible is wrong, otherwise people wouldn’t be avoiding the conversation when I post certain passages of scripture and they don’t want to discuss them.

Science, common sense, and even math
show that many things in the bible are
not true if taken literally.

Unless you figure Jesus really is a sheep
( baa baa) and Pi actually is 3.0

Ophiolite · Mar 26, 2024

AG_BIC96 said:
Nope, is it not true? I don't really care you can highlight as much as you like but you attacked first and foremost and we have the comments to prove that. I see you are still commenting and must feel very strongly on the subject. Can you kindly leave as we discussed before?

This is a suggestion. As the initiator of the thread you can request that the moderators close it. You asked for input, you didn't like what you got and chose not to address any of the specific criticisms, so it does not seem to be providing you with anything of value.

AG_BIC96 · Mar 26, 2024

Ophiolite said:
This is a suggestion. As the initiator of the thread you can request that the moderators close it. You asked for input, you didn't like what you got and chose not to address any of the specific criticisms, so it does not seem to be providing you with anything of value.

It provides other people with value which you probably dislike and that’s exactly why I’m going to keep it up have a nice day.

Ophiolite · Mar 26, 2024

AG_BIC96 said:
It provides other people with value which you probably dislike and that’s exactly why I’m going to keep it up have a nice day.

Really! I took 1 1/2 hours out of my day to help you out and in return you implicitly accuse me of of being nasty. I offer a suggestion to make you aware of an option you might find attractive and you have the discourtesy to assign rather despicable motives to my supposed reaction on hearing you are happy keep the thread open. And you close with "have a nice day" that seems to be dripping with insincerity.

I regret you have misinterpreted, misunderstood and largely ignored everything I have posted to you. I'll not trouble you again.

SelfSim · Mar 26, 2024

AG_BIC96 said:
It provides other people with value which you probably dislike and that’s exactly why I’m going to keep it up have a nice day.

I'm intrigued .. Further to @Ophiolite's most recent comment, out of interest, I'd like to know whether or not you consider his critique in post #56 to be of any value, (with the exception of the 'buddy' side-issue that is .. which unfortunately, seemed to attract more disproportionate attention than it was probably worth, IMHO)?

Ophiolite · Mar 26, 2024

SelfSim said:
I'm intrigued .. Further to @Ophiolite's most recent comment, out of interest, I'd like to know whether or not you consider his critique in post #56 to be of any value, (with the exception of the 'buddy' side-issue that is .. which unfortunately, seemed to attract more disproportionate attention than it was probably worth, IMHO)?

I agree on the "Buddy" issue. I misinterpreted that. I've seen too many posts where a member is addressed as "buddy", or "mate" when it is clear the poster certainly does not think of them as a "buddy". I should have picked up on the significance of the smiley face at the end of the sentence. However, that criticism was the least important of all the criticisms in my post, yet it was the only that was addressed. Disappointing.

AG_BIC96 · Mar 26, 2024

SelfSim said:
I'm intrigued .. Further to @Ophiolite's most recent comment, out of interest, I'd like to know whether or not you consider his critique in post #56 to be of any value, (with the exception of the 'buddy' side-issue that is .. which unfortunately, seemed to attract more disproportionate attention than it was probably worth, IMHO)?

I'm not bothering nor further engaging in any conversation it's a waste of time for both you and me. We don't see eye to eye and this should have never devolved into a debate. It's as simple as that.

eleos1954 · Mar 26, 2024

AG_BIC96 said:
We are made of many of the same elements derived from soil and water as Genesis 2:7 states " God formed man of the dust of the ground & breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul". Everything in our physical world has a basis in being created out of star dust. Star Dust in other words debris from Super Nova's that occurred billions of years ago particularly during the beginning of time at approximately 13.7 billion years ago. See here how this fact relates to Genesis 2:7 dust to modern day astronomer and physicist view of the origin of the universe, our physical world being derived from star dust. We are made and comprised of the same elements that the heavenly bodies is composed of as well as our terrestrial environment.

Some of our oldest fossil records are linked to a single event called the Cambrian or Silurian explosion. Out of this event evolved some of the earliest arthropods and primarily aquatic species. We can observe today that some species such as the aquatic isopod underwent micro evolutionary changes to adapt to living on land. On the terrestrial isopod commonly known as the wood louse or (roly poly or pill bug) we can observe gills that allow these crustaceans to survive when submerged in water for short periods of time, this reminiscent of their aquatic ancestry. Many animals within the animal kingdom have underwent the process of evolution on a microscopic scale however large evolutionary jumps such as those purported by Darwin have yet to be seen and tested. This is due to the proposed processes taking approximately one million years to occur. However the Cambrian explosion indicates how life all stems from a single point and a plethora of species was produced during this pivotal time period.

The Cambrian explosion is also referred to as the biological big bang it occurred 538.8 million years ago. It is considered a biological epoch because virtually all modern day animal phyla developed during this event which lasted 13-25 million years a blink of an eye in terms of cosmic timeline. Let's look at Genesis 20, In this section of the Bible the following is stated, "And God said, Let the water teem with living creatures", this indicates that according to the Bible life originated in the ocean first and foremost which corresponds with the scientific view of life first developing in the oceans via life forms such as, arthropods and mollusk both being of aquatic origin.

"What is the great difference between supposing that God makes variable species or that he makes laws by which species vary?"- Louis Aggasiz

There is no fundamental difference in these two separate statements. In the eyes of believers the natural development and progression of natural, processes, occurrences, phenomena and organisms in general is often proof in an of itself for intelligent design. The intricacies and very well planned out details of these phenomena cannot occur sporadically without careful thought being put into these natural workmanship(so to speak). It is the thought process behind these extremely detailed and well thought out designs along with the creative intellect that is stand alone proof for a divine creator. To deny such or claim that random probability was the driving force for such well formed organized systems along with tangible/intangible products is unsubstantiated.

Takes more faith to believe in evolution rather than in a creator imo

Estrid · Mar 26, 2024

eleos1954 said:
Takes more faith to believe in evolution rather than in a creator imo

It's not your opinion you're just chanting
a tired and exceptionally inane line we've all
heard elsewhere.
.

Estrid · Mar 26, 2024

AG_BIC96 said:
It provides other people with value which you probably dislike and that’s exactly why I’m going to keep it up have a nice day.

Some like falsehoods, tho
I think the " good book " recommends
one not be the one to spread them.

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