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Transgender efforts reach the US State Department

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“newspeak” is the perfect description of it.

"Secretary of State Antony Blinken reportedly sent a memo directing staff at the State Department—the government agency that represents America around the world—to avoid using “problematic” terms that suggest human beings are male and female."
 
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The world has gone crazy. I find it offensive when I’m asked what my gender is, it’s blatantly obvious that I’m a woman.
Not from where I'm sitting. How can I tell what your gender is?

-- A2SG, you're just words on a screen, far as I can see....
 
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What would it take to make it something?
When people are actually hurt physically or monetarily by the words.

Otherwise, I find it hilarious that Tyler O'Neill is capitalizing monetarily by Making Hate Pay.


 
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When people are actually hurt physically or monetarily by the words.

Otherwise, I find it hilarious that Tyler O'Neill is capitalizing monetarily by Making Hate Pay.
But the words in this case are a byproduct of an alternate reality being established.
 
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Not from where I'm sitting. How can I tell what your gender is?

-- A2SG, you're just words on a screen, far as I can see....
As A2SG said, how are we to know? I know men who also like sunflowers....
Are you both truly unaware that she's talking about in person face to face interactions?
 
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An alternative reality in which
But the words in this case are a byproduct of an alternate reality being established.
An alternate reality where a hostile response to gender nonconformity in children is seen as undesirable. How awful.
 
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But the words in this case are a byproduct of an alternate reality being established.
Look around, this is as real as it gets. Millions of people's minds and bodies different than yours does not diminish the thoughts of their reality. Saying it is an 'alternate reality' simply demonstrates a lack of understanding, empathy for others and an open mind to see others are different.
 
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Are you both truly unaware that she's talking about in person face to face interactions?
Does this mean that if you conversed with a transgendered person here, that would be better because you can't see what they look like?

I go by what they write. If they cannot be more specific with this form of communication, that is their problem.
 
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Are you both truly unaware that she's talking about in person face to face interactions?
That person didn't say that. The only claim was that it was "blatantly obvious."

Not to me.

-- A2SG, you, of course, are free to make any assumptions you wish...
 
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That person didn't say that. The only claim was that it was "blatantly obvious."

Not to me.

-- A2SG, you, of course, are free to make any assumptions you wish...
And I was talking about people who ask what my gender is. Were you asking what my gender was? No…therefore, your response was irrelevant anyway.

Also, it was obvious what I was talking about. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings by have a different viewpoint to yours.
 
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And I was talking about people who ask what my gender is. Were you asking what my gender was? No…therefore, your response was irrelevant anyway.

Also, it was obvious what I was talking about. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings by have a different viewpoint to yours.
No hurt feelings here. Just trying to make a point.

Sorry you missed it.

-- A2SG, oh well....
 
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No hurt feelings here. Just trying to make a point.

Sorry you missed it.

-- A2SG, oh well...
No hurt feelings here. Just trying to make a point.

Sorry you missed it.

-- A2SG, oh well....
Right okay.

And I’m sorry that you missed the point of my very obvious comment.
 
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What hasn't been explained yet is how changes to the State Department's style manual will make criticism of the government impossible--which is the OP claim.

Have the changes not gone into effect yet? Is that why people are still able to criticize the government in this thread?
 
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