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Seems the wealthy donors don't want to support Donald Trump; and the "unwashed" voters are frustrated that the RNC won't support Donald Trump.
 

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This is far from the first entity to have gone broke after affiliating themselves with Donald Trump. I wonder why that is? The man lives in a world of chaos, deceit and lies. And now the RNC finds itself engulfed in this reality. Not all with eyes can see.
 
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This is far from the first entity to have gone broke after affiliating themselves with Donald Trump. I wonder why that is? The man lives in a world of chaos, deceit and lies. And now the RNC finds itself engulfed in this reality. Not all with eyes can see.
I told y'all. I heard someone say 45 was a roach motel. People crawl in and they can't crawl out. ^_^
 
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Seems the wealthy donors don't want to support Donald Trump; and the "unwashed" voters are frustrated that the RNC won't support Donald Trump.
The thing about wealthy donors is (and they maybe slimy underhanded grifters themselves in some/many cases), they do expect a "return on their investment". They certainly didn't climb to the economic levels they're at via altruism and/or low-ROI endeavors.

Trump did a few things during his first term (and is saying some things now) that could cause some of those wealthier donor entities to question which horse they want to bet on.

A) - and this one is painfully obvious - The military industrial complex certainly doesn't like a lot of 'we need to stay out of this military entanglement' talk. Did you happen to notice that mega donors are throwing money at Biden and Haley? (who despite being in different parties, are both solidly on board with spending a lot of military dollars on both the Gaza and Ukraine situations -- they don't seem to be throwing a lot of money at people who say we need to stay out of one or both of those conflicts)

B) Despite Trump proposing a "rich friendly" tax plan in his first term, it wasn't as "rich friendly" as some of his GOP counterparts and successors, and certainly not as "rich friendly" as GOP mega donors have become accustomed to.

C) Image is everything... some of these wealthy mega-donors fancy themselves as having a certain "elite" level of refinement and sophistication. Like any other rich person, they want to still be included in the same social circles, invited to the same fancy parties, and still be welcomed at the local country clubs. Having their name attached to Trump would likely jeopardize that as they probably don't to be seen as being of the same "ilk" as the Alex Jones's, guys in buffalo hats storming the capitol, etc... They want to be seen as being "above" that.


Here's the list of people who've thrown money at Haley campaign efforts in recent weeks.
Billionaire investor Stanley Druckenmiller, Home Depot co-founder Ken Langone, metals mogul Andy Sabin and LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman, Citadel hedge fund founder Ken Griffin and Jamie Dimon, the CEO of JP Morgan Chase, and the Koch-aligned Americans for Prosperity.


I would use a guard dog analogy. Sure, both a German Shepard and a Pit Bull can both attack an intruder and protect your home...The German Shepard may require a little more up front expense, but the latter is much more unpredictable and can turn on you.

So with regards to the type of guard dog they want protecting their financial interests, it would seem the GOP mega donors are opting for the much more predictable German Shepard that is Haley, instead of Pit Bull that is Trump... The German Shepard is much more obedient, and there's a lower probability that they'll bite your face off in your sleep or land you in legal hot water because they attacked your neighbor's kid.
 
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The GOP opening a credit line is equivalent to them raising their own debt ceiling.

I guess it’s okay for them, but not the rest of us.
 
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Seems the wealthy donors don't want to support Donald Trump; and the "unwashed" voters are frustrated that the RNC won't support Donald Trump.
Didn't they all ready get what they wanted from Trump? Lower taxes. Why care about Trump now?
 
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There were 12 candidates in 2015 for the GOP presidential ticket. Eleven of them could have been one person - they were virtually indistinguishable, In their vision for the country.

Donald Trump was the only one who stood out. He had the winning message. Make America Great Again.

Fast forward to now. You would think the GOP would have a platform that was at least "MAGA lite" , some America first policies to attract the Trump voter, from actually voting Trump. Nope, instead we get a GWB/McCain/Romney hybrid, wrapped up in Haley. She's rejected by the voters, no cash from them, so now the big money investors aren't interested.

Mitch Daniels (R) Indiana, was correct: " they don't call them the 'stupid party ' for nothing"
 
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The thing about wealthy donors is (and they maybe slimy underhanded grifters themselves in some/many cases), they do expect a "return on their investment". They certainly didn't climb to the economic levels they're at via altruism and/or low-ROI endeavors.

Trump did a few things during his first term (and is saying some things now) that could cause some of those wealthier donor entities to question which horse they want to bet on.

A) - and this one is painfully obvious - The military industrial complex certainly doesn't like a lot of 'we need to stay out of this military entanglement' talk. Did you happen to notice that mega donors are throwing money at Biden and Haley? (who despite being in different parties, are both solidly on board with spending a lot of military dollars on both the Gaza and Ukraine situations -- they don't seem to be throwing a lot of money at people who say we need to stay out of one or both of those conflicts)

B) Despite Trump proposing a "rich friendly" tax plan in his first term, it wasn't as "rich friendly" as some of his GOP counterparts and successors, and certainly not as "rich friendly" as GOP mega donors have become accustomed to.

C) Image is everything... some of these wealthy mega-donors fancy themselves as having a certain "elite" level of refinement and sophistication. Like any other rich person, they want to still be included in the same social circles, invited to the same fancy parties, and still be welcomed at the local country clubs. Having their name attached to Trump would likely jeopardize that as they probably don't to be seen as being of the same "ilk" as the Alex Jones's, guys in buffalo hats storming the capitol, etc... They want to be seen as being "above" that.


Here's the list of people who've thrown money at Haley campaign efforts in recent weeks.
Billionaire investor Stanley Druckenmiller, Home Depot co-founder Ken Langone, metals mogul Andy Sabin and LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman, Citadel hedge fund founder Ken Griffin and Jamie Dimon, the CEO of JP Morgan Chase, and the Koch-aligned Americans for Prosperity.


I would use a guard dog analogy. Sure, both a German Shepard and a Pit Bull can both attack an intruder and protect your home...The German Shepard may require a little more up front expense, but the latter is much more unpredictable and can turn on you.

So with regards to the type of guard dog they want protecting their financial interests, it would seem the GOP mega donors are opting for the much more predictable German Shepard that is Haley, instead of Pit Bull that is Trump... The German Shepard is much more obedient, and there's a lower probability that they'll bite your face off in your sleep or land you in legal hot water because they attacked your neighbor's kid.

Ty for pointing this out...

Ever since the SCOTUS decided corps are people and money is speech....the Democratic Party has to some degree or another, complained about their increasing influence in elections.

Joe Biden spent 0$ of his own money getting elected. 0.

The left is now the party that does as corporate donors say....the right is no longer as reliable since Trump. He can spend enough of his own money to not have to spend all his time pleasing donors.
 
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The thing about wealthy donors is (and they maybe slimy underhanded grifters themselves in some/many cases), they do expect a "return on their investment". They certainly didn't climb to the economic levels they're at via altruism and/or low-ROI endeavors.

Trump did a few things during his first term (and is saying some things now) that could cause some of those wealthier donor entities to question which horse they want to bet on.
All of those likely contribute, but also keep in mind wealthy elites benefit from the government not being overthrown by a mob of MAGA supporters. Those who were paying attention last time likely aren't excited to give them another attempt.
 
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There were 12 candidates in 2015 for the GOP presidential ticket. Eleven of them could have been one person - they were virtually indistinguishable, In their vision for the country.

Donald Trump was the only one who stood out. He had the winning message. Make America Great Again.

Fast forward to now. You would think the GOP would have a platform that was at least "MAGA lite" , some America first policies to attract the Trump voter, from actually voting Trump. Nope, instead we get a GWB/McCain/Romney hybrid, wrapped up in Haley. She's rejected by the voters, no cash from them, so now the big money investors aren't interested.

Mitch Daniels (R) Indiana, was correct: " they don't call them the 'stupid party ' for nothing"

Mitch is not only right, he's a member.
So Hoosier leader?
 
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McDaniel is expected to leave as RNC chair amid pressure from Trump

McDaniel, who is in her fourth term as chair of the RNC, was expected to serve until 2025 but has considered leaving for months. Her relationship with Trump soured over the Republican primary debates featuring his challengers this past fall, according to the people familiar with the discussions. Trump wanted her to cancel them and she declined.

But in private, he has been nice to her, the people familiar with the meetings say, and has not forcefully pushed for her ouster even as some of her critics have called for it. The pair met for over two hours on Monday.

McDaniel — the niece of Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) who stopped using the Romney name after the 2016 election — comes from a storied family in Republican politics and was viewed as a bridge between Trump and the party’s more establishment, corporate class. She was well liked by some of the party’s top donors, including hotelier Steve Wynn.
 
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McDaniel is expected to leave as RNC chair amid pressure from Trump

McDaniel, who is in her fourth term as chair of the RNC, was expected to serve until 2025 but has considered leaving for months. Her relationship with Trump soured over the Republican primary debates featuring his challengers this past fall, according to the people familiar with the discussions. Trump wanted her to cancel them and she declined.

But in private, he has been nice to her, the people familiar with the meetings say, and has not forcefully pushed for her ouster even as some of her critics have called for it. The pair met for over two hours on Monday.

McDaniel — the niece of Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) who stopped using the Romney name after the 2016 election — comes from a storied family in Republican politics and was viewed as a bridge between Trump and the party’s more establishment, corporate class. She was well liked by some of the party’s top donors, including hotelier Steve Wynn.
The Trumpier the RNC gets, the more they'll lose.
 
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