Ukraine struggles to defend against Russian invasion as aid dries up

Truth7t7 · Jan 15, 2024

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Ukraine struggles to defend against Russian invasion as aid dries up

1-15-2024

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is set to travel to Switzerland to ask for more aid in his country's fight against the ongoing Russian invasion. The U.S. has supplied Ukraine with some $40 billion in aid since the war began two years ago, while Russia is being supplied by North Korea and Iran. Chris Livesay reports.

honey badger · Jan 15, 2024

the west has failed in their attempt to divide Russia ... in fact it has made the west weaker and made Russia stronger ...

Laodicean60 · Jan 15, 2024

honey badger said:
the west has failed in their attempt to divide Russia ... in fact it has made the west weaker and made Russia stronger ...

We need to get those old boomers out of office! Please millennials save us from ourselves. Millions of dollars later and the global economy slowing countries need to fork out more money for defense. We deglobalized the world for one man Zelensky.

honey badger · Jan 15, 2024

Laodicean60 said:
We need to get those old boomers out of office! Please millennials save us from ourselves. Millions of dollars later and the global economy slowing countries need to fork out more money for defense. We deglobalized the world for one man Zelensky.

to quote Gerald Celente "when all else fails they take us to war" and the global elite are failing at everything of late ...

Truth7t7 · Jan 15, 2024

honey badger said:
the west has failed in their attempt to divide Russia ... in fact it has made the west weaker and made Russia stronger ...

I agree 100%, it has driven a division in world powers and alliance, Russia, China, India, Brazil, South Africa, North Korea, etc

It was the western world's attempt to bring Putin into submission and it "Failed" as Kiev and Zelensky are only weeks away from surrender, the Russian missile and drone barrages are relentless, with 4 major Russian attacks in the past 2 weeks

Zelensky is begging for Ukranian citizens 768,000 able men in Europe alone that left to return and fight, he has been quoted as suggesting mandatory enlistment of women for the military needing 500,000 troops to continue (Desperate)

Zelensky surrender, save Ukranian lives!

Laodicean60 · Jan 15, 2024

Truth7t7 said:
I agree 100%, it has driven a division in world powers and alliance, Russia, China, India, Brazil, South Africa, North Korea, etc

It was the western world's attempt to bring Putin into submission and it "Failed" as Kiev and Zelensky are only weeks away from surrender, the Russian missile and drone barrages are relentless, with 4 major Russian attacks in the past 2 weeks

Zelensky is begging for Ukranian citizens 768,000 able men in Europe alone that left to return and fight, he has been quoted as suggesting mandatory enlistment of women for the military needing 500,000 troops to continue (Desperate)

Zelensky surrender, save Ukranian lives!

It's extraordinary our willingness to keep our NATO puppet in power for a non-NATO country,

Truth7t7 · Jan 15, 2024

Laodicean60 said:
It's extraordinary our willingness to keep our NATO puppet in power for a non-NATO country,

Zelensky is the western world puppet,EU, USA, etc, to fight a proxy war for the west, Ukrainian citizens are being used as cannon fodder in a war they will never win

The west is responsible for this war, namely the US under Obama, who instigated the overthrow of a friendly government in Ukraine in Feb 2014, and replaced it with a hostile government to Russia

The war in Ukraine will end soon, Zelensky is out of soldiers, weapons, ammunition, and financing, as Russia presently is striking Ukraines capitol in Kiev with massive missile and drone attacks, 4 in the past 2 weeks

Zelensky surrender, save Ukranian lives!

Laodicean60 · Jan 15, 2024

Truth7t7 said:
Zelensky surrender, save Ukranian lives!

It's not about the people it's about the land.

Truth7t7 · Jan 15, 2024

Laodicean60 said:
It's not about the people it's about the land.

It's about the western world having a missile base on Russias border with Ukraine, only 280 miles away from Moscow

It's about the western world taking Crimea, and Russias naval base in Sebastopol, Russias only warm water port in the black sea

BobRyan · Jan 15, 2024

honey badger said:
the west has failed in their attempt to divide Russia ... in fact it has made the west weaker and made Russia stronger ...

Certainly Ukraine is a much more capable army as a result --

BobRyan · Jan 15, 2024

Russia invaded Ukraine - and now it is "the fault of the West" that resistance against brutal aggression was possible - as though resistance "is a bad thing".

Interesting "narrative"

I don't see how this is even a little bit confusing to get the details right.

Laodicean60 · Jan 15, 2024

BobRyan said:
Russia invaded Ukraine - and now it is "the fault of the West" that resistance against brutal aggression was possible - as though resistance "is a bad thing".

Interesting "narrative"

I don't see how this is even a little bit confusing to get the details right.

We created this issue with a coup in 2014.

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BobRyan · Jan 15, 2024

Laodicean60 said:
We created this issue with a coup in 2014.

We made Russia invade Ukraine in 2021??

Seems like a stretch.

I suppose we also "made them invade Ukraine and steal Crimea in 2014"?

"In February and March 2014, Russia invaded the Crimean Peninsula, part of Ukraine, and then annexed it."

How much of another sovereign nation should Russia invade and steal - before someone says "wait a minute! that is not right"???

Just out of curiosity.

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"Following the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, thousands of nuclear arms were in Ukraine, leaving Kyiv at the time with the third-largest nuclear arsenal in the world.

However, the Budapest Memorandum, signed on December 5, 1994, resulted in a multilateral agreement affirming Ukraine's security and sovereignty in exchange for giving up the nuclear stocks.

The United States, the United Kingdom, and Russia were among the signatories, as was Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine itself.

The "Memorandum" was in fact part of three separate documents, signed by the three leaders of the ex-Soviet nations, with U.K., U.S. and Russia acting as co-signatories (and China and France providing individual assurance)."

Maybe the West should have listened to Ukraine in 1994 when they claimed that Russia would not abide by such an agreement given enough time to rebuild - and in such a future - those Nukes would no longer be available to Kyiv as a deterrent against a future Russian invasion. Sadly that prediction did prove to be accurate.

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I don't see how Russia's invasion is the least bit "confusing" to someone.

BobRyan · Jan 15, 2024

from; https://www.npr.org/2022/03/11/1085548867/belarus-ukraine-russia-invasion-lukashenko-putin

In 2020 -
Lukashenko's claim of a landslide victory — 80% for Lukashenko versus 10% for his popular opponent, Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya — was instantly disputed, both by the opposition and by the U.S. and its allies in Europe.

In Belarus, protests erupted on an unprecedented scale. They lasted for weeks, with security forces arresting thousands but still failing to suppress the huge numbers of demonstrators in the capital Minsk.

Facing the biggest popular challenge in his 26 years of power, Lukashenko turned to Putin for help. And Putin delivered, announcing that the Russian military stood ready to intervene "if necessary."

An emboldened Lukashenko embarked on a vicious crackdown, with mass arrests and torture of detainees. His government jailed political opponents and journalists, shut down human rights organizations and criminalized displays of what it called "extremism."

Massive Protests Continue In Belarus As Demonstrators Demand Lukashenko Resign

More than 37,000 people were detained in the year ending May 2021, according to a new report by the United Nations.

"These arrests and detentions, accompanied by the unlawful use of force that caused serious bodily injury and harm, and followed by torture and ill-treatment, including rape, were on a large scale and had the effect of exerting pressure on the population, to stifle dissent and public displays of opposition to the incumbent President," the report states.

Michael Snow · Jan 15, 2024

honey badger said:
the west has failed in their attempt to divide Russia ... in fact it has made the west weaker and made Russia stronger ...

At the cost of over 250K Ukrainian KIAs since USA NeoCons killed peace talks. Israeli PM Bennet:
Senator Linsey Graham

vowed to fight to the last Ukrainian. "Best money we spent. Russians are dying"

Michael Snow · Jan 15, 2024

BobRyan said:
We made Russia invade Ukraine in 2021??

Seems like a stretch.

I suppose we also "made them invade Ukraine and steal Crimea in 2014"?

"In February and March 2014, Russia invaded the Crimean Peninsula, part of Ukraine, and then annexed it."

You have no clue about the history here. Russia gave Crimea to Ukraine to administer in 1954. Sevastapol is a city of Russians. After the 2014 USA backed coup in Kiev, Crimea voted to return to Russia.
The war in Ukraine started in the Donbass in 2014 after the coup. Minsk treaty with Russia would have solved the problem but the West stonewalled it. Russia again tried to negotiate in Dec., invaded in Feb trying to force Ukraine to the table. Key cause of the war. USA broke its word to Russia when Germany was reunited that NATO would not expand Eastward.

The details here

Michael Snow · Jan 15, 2024

Here is background of the war from Prof. Sachs.

Truth7t7 · Jan 16, 2024

BobRyan said:
Certainly Ukraine is a much more capable army as a result --

What army they're all dead, Zelensky is considering forcing women into mandatory enlistment presently

Truth7t7 · Jan 16, 2024

BobRyan said:
Russia invaded Ukraine - and now it is "the fault of the West" that resistance against brutal aggression was possible - as though resistance "is a bad thing".

Interesting "narrative"

I don't see how this is even a little bit confusing to get the details right.

It's apparent your ignorant of the facts concerning the present conflict and it's history

The USA under Obama orchestrated the coup in Ukraine in Feb 2014 using his diplomat (Victoria Nuland) as the spark to the fire, after this coup a hostile government towards Russia was installed

Ukraine and Russia agreed to the internationally recognized (2015 Minsk Agreements) in a cease fire, Ukraine broke these agreements and continued killing Russian speaking Ukranian citizens in the eastern Donbas region

Russian Putin for the entire time requested Germany, France, EU,and US to stop the violations in killing that fell upon deaf ears and Zelensky from May 2019 to Feb 24 2022 continued the killing, as Russia entered Ukraine to free the Russian speaking Ukranians from genocide

Truth7t7 · Jan 16, 2024

BobRyan said:
from; https://www.npr.org/2022/03/11/1085548867/belarus-ukraine-russia-invasion-lukashenko-putin

In 2020 -
Lukashenko's claim of a landslide victory — 80% for Lukashenko versus 10% for his popular opponent, Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya — was instantly disputed, both by the opposition and by the U.S. and its allies in Europe.

In Belarus, protests erupted on an unprecedented scale. They lasted for weeks, with security forces arresting thousands but still failing to suppress the huge numbers of demonstrators in the capital Minsk.

Facing the biggest popular challenge in his 26 years of power, Lukashenko turned to Putin for help. And Putin delivered, announcing that the Russian military stood ready to intervene "if necessary."

An emboldened Lukashenko embarked on a vicious crackdown, with mass arrests and torture of detainees. His government jailed political opponents and journalists, shut down human rights organizations and criminalized displays of what it called "extremism."

Massive Protests Continue In Belarus As Demonstrators Demand Lukashenko Resign

More than 37,000 people were detained in the year ending May 2021, according to a new report by the United Nations.

"These arrests and detentions, accompanied by the unlawful use of force that caused serious bodily injury and harm, and followed by torture and ill-treatment, including rape, were on a large scale and had the effect of exerting pressure on the population, to stifle dissent and public displays of opposition to the incumbent President," the report states.

Sounds like leftist MSM propaganda IMHO

Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya lost the election in Belarus and she formed the extremist group (Coordination Council) to overthrow the elected government in Lukashenko

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