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Conservative Free Speech Group Withdraws Trademark Lawsuit Against Liberal Podcast

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It started in February, when Young America’s Foundation, a conservative youth organization, filed a trademark infringement complaint against the two hosts, claiming that the podcast’s use of the phrase “Young Americans for Freedom” to describe one of its subscription levels was “likely to cause confusion” and “deception,” leading people to think the podcast is sponsored by the conservative campus group founded in 1960 by William F. Buckley.

The lawsuit, filed in the Federal District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, was not publicized by the foundation, and drew little notice. Then, on Tuesday, shortly before the podcast’s lawyers were to file a response, the group voluntarily withdrew it.

One of my favorite podcasts, Know Your Enemy got hit with a trademark infringement suit earlier this year by the Young America Foundation who claimed that KYE's obviously-satirical use of "Young Americans for Freedom" (the name of a predecessor to the Young America Foundation) as one of its membership tiers violated its intellectual property and could potentially confuse subscribers. (The other membership tiers are named "West Coast Straussians" and "John Birchers")

The conclusions one can draw from this are that either:

1.) That YAF truly believed that their conservative members couldn't tell the difference between a right-wing youth movement now led by former governor Scott Walker and a left-wing podcast run by two socialists in Brooklyn, or

2.) That the supposed champions of free speech chose to ignore a clear case of fair use and bury their political opponents in legal bills.

As it turns out, YAF may not actually own the trademark in question, so they withdrew the complaint while retaining the option to re-file it later.

For anybody interested in the intellectual history of the right, especially in the US since the beginning of the 20th century, KYE is a great podcast that delves into a lot of details not well known (and rarely discussed) outside of academic/think tank circles.
 

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One of my favorite podcasts, Know Your Enemy got hit with a trademark infringement suit earlier this year by the Young America Foundation who claimed that KYE's obviously-satirical use of "Young Americans for Freedom" (the name of a predecessor to the Young America Foundation) as one of its membership tiers violated its intellectual property and could potentially confuse subscribers. (The other membership tiers are named "West Coast Straussians" and "John Birchers")

The conclusions one can draw from this are that either:

1.) That YAF truly believed that their conservative members couldn't tell the difference between a right-wing youth movement now led by former governor Scott Walker and a left-wing podcast run by two socialists in Brooklyn, or

2.) That the supposed champions of free speech chose to ignore a clear case of fair use and bury their political opponents in legal bills.

As it turns out, YAF may not actually own the trademark in question, so they withdrew the complaint while retaining the option to re-file it later.

For anybody interested in the intellectual history of the right, especially in the US since the beginning of the 20th century, KYE is a great podcast that delves into a lot of details not well known (and rarely discussed) outside of academic/think tank circles.

There's no "William F Buckley" tier?

I haven't heard of this podcast but the focus on irrelevant historical figures and mockery makes me wonder if Chapo Trap House and Red Scare fell apart on their own and these are the leftovers of those two podcasts. Is there a lot of vocal fry and a complete lack of guests with opposing views to debate?

All the cool people listen to The Adam Friedland Show. They had Ernie Hudson, Chris Cuomo (which is wild considering the impressions of his brother they used to do on that other podcast which shall not be named on this forum) Jadakiss, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, and Dracula. They've already made international headlines twice. They've angered the Taylor Swift mob. They got some musician named Matt Healy banned from Japan.

If they aren't chasing Joe Rogan in ratings within a year....there's no justice in this world.
 
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I don't know that "Young America’s Foundation" should be labelled as a "Conservative Free Speech" organization...

They're conservative, but not so much "free speech". Isn't that Charlie Kirk's organization? Or am I confusing that with another one?
 
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I don't know that "Young America’s Foundation" should be labelled as a "Conservative Free Speech" organization...

They're conservative, but not so much "free speech". Isn't that Charlie Kirk's organization? Or am I confusing that with another one?
Charlie Kirk is Turning Point USA.
 
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