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How to avoid “rookie mistakes” as a new Catholic convert...

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Many of us who became Catholic – especially if we came from Evangelical Protestant backgrounds — entered the Church full of excitement, fervor, and a desire to do what we’ve done our whole Christian lives, which is to share our experience of Jesus with everyone we encounter.

In doing so, however, some of us have let our zeal run ahead of our prudence, and either ended up with strained relationships, an inflated sense of the role knowledge plays in the Christian life, and even spiritual burnout.

Sam Guzman, who grew up Baptist, looks back at some of the mistakes he made in his own first days as a new Catholic, and shares some thoughts for anyone who’s excited about discovering the Catholic Faith but wants to get things off on the right foot as they begin the next phase of their journey with Christ.

Find out more about Sam at catholicgentleman.com.

 

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I know as a revert I had to curb back my zeal.
Not because it was bad, but it can be off putting to anyone who cannot comprehend it.
So now I listen and wait to assist... God willing.
 
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I know as a revert I had to curb back my zeal.
Not because it was bad, but it can be off putting to anyone who cannot comprehend it.
So now I listen and wait to assist... God willing.

So you are a revert, too! Yay! ("Nice to meet ya!" :wave: )
 
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Yes, I can agree that revert zeal needs to be tempered; exhibited in "moderation".
But I also don't think that reverts should return to the Church and become sleepy pew sitters. lol
There has to be a "happy medium" ...

I haven't yet read in the Catechism anywhere where Lifelong Catholics own the Church. lol
So while I think listening and waiting is wise ... it won't be listening and waiting for Lifelong Catholics to tell us what to do.
It'll be listening and waiting on God ...

Gotta tell ya ...
All this talk this weekend about the "class structure" within the Church has been quite discouraging.
I really never thought about it ...
smh

Maybe this is another reason why the Church is struggling ...
Many "Lifelongs" won't accept the Converts and Reverts.
How sad ...
 
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I know as a revert I had to curb back my zeal.
Not because it was bad, but it can be off putting to anyone who cannot comprehend it.

You make a very good point ...

It is difficult, sometimes impossible, to fully understand what someone else is experiencing, if we have not experienced it also.

We can often intellectually understand something, but if we have not also experienced it for ourselves, the understanding is in our head only and not known in the heart.

Many reverts have gone thru alot to return to the Church. Sometimes there has been alot of waiting, also. (Same thing for converts.)
So naturally, there can be alot of 'zeal' ... joy, appreciation, happiness ... when the goal has finally been achieved!

I don't believe most reverts come back into the Church with the intention of being "off putting". I know that is never my intent.
But yes, I can see where our joy ... gratitude ... at being "back" could be unattractive to others.

Makes me think of a new convert to Christianity. Or when one experiences a "2nd conversion" experience, as some call it.
There can be such joy, such zeal for the Lord! Some folks find them "obnoxious", too ... and probably they are! lol
 
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I think new converts to the Catholic Church from Protestant backgrounds face pretty much the same problems that new Christians do.

With all due respect to the Catholic Church, I've found that Protestants tend to be more enthusiastic. They're not necessarily more sincere, but if someone floats the idea of a new ministry for example, there will most likely be other people in the church who are prepared to help.

So Protestant converts come in to the Catholic Church with a more enthusiastic attitude, and then run up against the fact that what they think the church should be like is not the status quo.

In a similar fashion brand new Christians come in full of enthusiasm and fixed ideas on how the church should work, only to find out that they need to change themselves first.

My old Protestant pastor said to me once that if there is ever a revival in Australia, he thought God would start it in the Catholic Church. In his opinion the Protestants were far too divided. But I wonder what would happen if the (Australian) Catholic Church found itself with all these newcomers desperately seeking answers with some wanting to contribute in some way, only to run into the fact the available priests were already overwhelmed.

If they became disillusioned enough they might turn around and go looking elsewhere where there was more enthusiasm.
 
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You make a very good point ...

It is difficult, sometimes impossible, to fully understand what someone else is experiencing, if we have not experienced it also.

We can often intellectually understand something, but if we have not also experienced it for ourselves, the understanding is in our head only and not known in the heart.

Many reverts have gone thru alot to return to the Church. Sometimes there has been alot of waiting, also. (Same thing for converts.)
So naturally, there can be alot of 'zeal' ... joy, appreciation, happiness ... when the goal has finally been achieved!

I don't believe most reverts come back into the Church with the intention of being "off putting". I know that is never my intent.
But yes, I can see where our joy ... gratitude ... at being "back" could be unattractive to others.

Makes me think of a new convert to Christianity. Or when one experiences a "2nd conversion" experience, as some call it.
There can be such joy, such zeal for the Lord! Some folks find them "obnoxious", too ... and probably they are! lol
Zeal speaks without knowing how lost the other is.
Listening is the 1st thing.
Offering them to be there for any questions so long as they seek an answer and not an argument.

And praying for them.
Prayer, esp offering up Mass is POWERFUL.
His sacrifice is POWERFUL. It defeats evil which is how we have [in this fallen world] concupiscence.
 
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I think new converts to the Catholic Church from Protestant backgrounds face pretty much the same problems that new Christians do.

With all due respect to the Catholic Church, I've found that Protestants tend to be more enthusiastic. They're not necessarily more sincere, but if someone floats the idea of a new ministry for example, there will most likely be other people in the church who are prepared to help.

So Protestant converts come in to the Catholic Church with a more enthusiastic attitude, and then run up against the fact that what they think the church should be like is not the status quo.

In a similar fashion brand new Christians come in full of enthusiasm and fixed ideas on how the church should work, only to find out that they need to change themselves first.

My old Protestant pastor said to me once that if there is ever a revival in Australia, he thought God would start it in the Catholic Church. In his opinion the Protestants were far too divided. But I wonder what would happen if the (Australian) Catholic Church found itself with all these newcomers desperately seeking answers with some wanting to contribute in some way, only to run into the fact the available priests were already overwhelmed.

If they became disillusioned enough they might turn around and go looking elsewhere where there was more enthusiasm.
Put on the new man.

IE - ego stands in the way.
EGO or arrogance or pride is the exact opposite to the Lord and love.
 
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Maybe this is another reason why the Church is struggling ...
Many "Lifelongs" won't accept the Converts and Reverts.
How sad ...
I'm glad for all of you. Even if you guys show me up again and again.
 
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Zeal speaks without knowing how lost the other is.
Listening is the 1st thing.
Offering them to be there for any questions so long as they seek an answer and not an argument.

Well, thank you for the guidance.
I'm assuming you have been back in the Church a long time and better know the ways of those in the Church.

It is a very different way to think, that zeal can be so offensive.
In Protestantism, it is seen as a "good" thing and useful in encouraging and evangelizing others.

"Listening is the 1st thing"? Not to all who are or were Protestant.
So, you have given me much to think about ...

Thanks.
 
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I think new converts to the Catholic Church from Protestant backgrounds face pretty much the same problems that new Christians do.

With all due respect to the Catholic Church, I've found that Protestants tend to be more enthusiastic. They're not necessarily more sincere, but if someone floats the idea of a new ministry for example, there will most likely be other people in the church who are prepared to help.

So Protestant converts come in to the Catholic Church with a more enthusiastic attitude, and then run up against the fact that what they think the church should be like is not the status quo.

In a similar fashion brand new Christians come in full of enthusiasm and fixed ideas on how the church should work, only to find out that they need to change themselves first.

My old Protestant pastor said to me once that if there is ever a revival in Australia, he thought God would start it in the Catholic Church. In his opinion the Protestants were far too divided. But I wonder what would happen if the (Australian) Catholic Church found itself with all these newcomers desperately seeking answers with some wanting to contribute in some way, only to run into the fact the available priests were already overwhelmed.

If they became disillusioned enough they might turn around and go looking elsewhere where there was more enthusiasm.

You explain the situation very well.
And sadly, it doesn't seem there is a solution to the problem ...

For myself, I've been thinking alot about this discussion, since it began.
I'm disappointed at what I've learned in this thread, but can move past it and make the necessary changes ...
 
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Well, thank you for the guidance.
I'm assuming you have been back in the Church a long time and better know the ways of those in the Church.

It is a very different way to think, that zeal can be so offensive.
In Protestantism, it is seen as a "good" thing and useful in encouraging and evangelizing others.

"Listening is the 1st thing"? Not to all who are or were Protestant.
So, you have given me much to think about ...

Thanks.
Zeal is off putting to the nonbelievers.
So praying over them is the 1st step.

I have some great news ATM.

A young guy who was friends of my son 'was' into witchcraft.

I say was because I have been praying over him and one prayer I have done is for those to see what spirits they are dealing with. To open their eyes.
He is now terrified and sought me for help and I sent him to the Rosary.
And to go to Mass and the Church.

And then bad news [I and my children need prayers]

Meanwhile now a spirit is getting my daughter all mad at me and she is saying horrific things but yet she spent time with my ex and every child I have gets really nasty mean with me after time with him and then they blame me.
:crossrc: :crossrc: :crossrc: :help:

So I pray over him too. He has a lot of persuasion over my kids... obviously.
 
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