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No one seeks God?

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Psalm 14:
1 The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good.
2The LORD looks down from heaven on the children of man, to see if there are any who understand, who seek after God.
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The verse does not assert that no one seeks God.
3They have all turned aside; together they have become corrupt; there is none who does good, not even one.
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Psalm 14 is poetry. It is not written in the language format of modern systematic theology. From the context, I gather that people are fools. They don't want to know God because they don't want to do good. By nature, people do not want to seek God.

Paul cited this psalm but changed the wording slightly in Romans 3:
10b For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, 10as it is written:
“None is righteous, no, not one; 11no one understands; no one seeks for God.
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Paul asserted that no one seeks God in the sense that Jews and Greeks are under sin. We are all sinners. Fortunately, Jesus seeks us. Luke 19:
10 For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.
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Moreover, Deuteronomy 4:
29 But if from there you will seek the LORD your God, you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul.
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Matthew 7:
7 Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened.
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From my own personal experience, I remember that when I was a little kid, I was seeking God whoever he was. That was before anyone told me anything about Jesus. When I became an adult, I became more materialistic and wanted proof and stopped seeking God. I was studying in a university when I called myself a Christian. Finally, God stopped my running away and found me :)

Does no one seek God?

Some people do seek God. Even if they do, they are still sinners because everyone sins. For those who seek God, they will be not disappointed.
 
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tonychanyt said:
From my own personal experience, I remember that when I was a little kid, I was seeking God whoever he was.
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I too remember such a time and experience. It conforms to Romans1 whereby I was looking at His creation and wondering where it came from - who made it (intuitively by design, I guess). Experientially, let alone instructionally now, Romans1 makes much sense to me.

If Psalm14 and Psalm53 are speaking of all men, then why the distinction made between the fools and God's people? When Paul references the Psalms in Rom3, he is establishing that all have sinned, but he is also distinguishing between those who remain sinners and those who believe. This is similar to the Psalms referencing God's people vs. the fools.

From Romans1 on Paul is distinguishing those who reject God from those who believe. And in the beginning of Romans - Romans1:5 - Paul attaches obedience to God with Faith in God. The grammar can make the 2 concepts almost synonymous Then in Romans16:26 Paul bookends Romans with the same language of Faith-Obedience. And in Romans 15:18 Paul speaks of how Christ has worked through him to make the nations obedient. In Romans10:16 Paul uses believe and obedience interchangeably.

God draws through the design of His creation and His complimentary creation of a man's cognitive abilities making all men responsible. Some men seek. Some men reject.

In the context of the Psalms and Romans, there's more to the statement re: none seek. And seeking seems to imply more than simply looking for Him.
 
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