Did Capitol Police On Jan 6th Open Barricades, Allowing Attendees To Enter The Capitol Building, The Capitol Police Chief Believed So?

Truth7t7 · Jul 25, 2023

What If peaceful attendees were welcomed in by capitol police as they opened barricades for entrance, then welcomed them with escourt for a capitol tour?

NPR

Capitol Police Suspends 6 Officers, Investigates Dozens More After Capitol Riots

February 19, 2021

"The investigation into the January 6 attack remains under investigation. Our Office of Professional Responsibility is investigating the actions of 35 police officers from that day. We currently have suspended six of those officers with pay," the department said in a statement.

Capitol Police Acting Chief Yogananda Pittman further directed that any member whose behavior is not in keeping with the department's Rules of Conduct "will face appropriate discipline."

The department "has been actively reviewing video and other open source materials of some USCP officers and officials that appear to be in violation of Department regulations and policies," she said on Jan. 11.

Videos from the day of the attack appear to show some officers escorting rioters inside the building. In one video, USCP officers can be seen opening barricades allowing the mob to enter the Capitol complex without resistance.

USincognito · Jul 25, 2023

What is the purpose of trying to gaslight people 28 months after the fact?

Also, what's the source for the quote in the OP?

Pommer · Jul 25, 2023

Truth7t7 said:
What If peaceful attendees were welcomed in by capitol police as they opened barricades for entrance, then welcomed them with escourt for a capitol tour?

NPR
Capitol Police Suspends 6 Officers, Investigates Dozens More After Capitol Riots
February 19, 2021

"The investigation into the January 6 attack remains under investigation. Our Office of Professional Responsibility is investigating the actions of 35 police officers from that day. We currently have suspended six of those officers with pay," the department said in a statement.

Capitol Police Acting Chief Yogananda Pittman further directed that any member whose behavior is not in keeping with the department's Rules of Conduct "will face appropriate discipline."

The department "has been actively reviewing video and other open source materials of some USCP officers and officials that appear to be in violation of Department regulations and policies," she said on Jan. 11.

Videos from the day of the attack appear to show some officers escorting rioters inside the building. In one video, USCP officers can be seen opening barricades allowing the mob to enter the Capitol complex without resistance.

How many January 6th threads are you going to open?

wing2000 · Jul 25, 2023

USincognito said:
What is the purpose of trying to gaslight people 28 months after the fact?

Also, what's the source for the quote in the OP?

To divert attention away from the imminent indictment of the man responsible...

Truth7t7 · Jul 25, 2023

USincognito said:
Also, what's the source for the quote in the OP?

The source is clearly documented (NPR), and the date posted is given Feb 19, 2021

Truth7t7 · Jul 25, 2023

Pommer said:
How many January 6th threads are you going to open?

It's very important to present truth from different perspectives, to bring light to the claims of the liberal democratic media that presents distorted false narratives

Did you enjoy reading the Capitol police chiefs statements as reported, officers removing barricades for entrance to the capitol and escorting attendees in the capitol building in violation of policy?

Hank77 · Jul 25, 2023

USincognito said:
What is the purpose of trying to gaslight people 28 months after the fact?

Also, what's the source for the quote in the OP?

https://www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/02/19/969441904/capitol-police-suspends-6-officers-investigates-dozens-more-after-capitol-riots

Here's the link.

Truth7t7 · Jul 25, 2023

wing2000 said:
To divert attention away from the imminent indictment of the man responsible...

To expose the liberal democratic media in false claims, and bring light to truth regarding events that took place on January 6th

Do you deny the Capitol police chiefs statements as reported, officers opened barricades for entrance, and gave capitol building escorts in violation of policy?

Hank77 · Jul 25, 2023

Truth7t7 said:
What If peaceful attendees were welcomed in by capitol police as they opened barricades for entrance, then welcomed them with escourt for a capitol tour?

NPR
Capitol Police Suspends 6 Officers, Investigates Dozens More After Capitol Riots
February 19, 2021

"The investigation into the January 6 attack remains under investigation. Our Office of Professional Responsibility is investigating the actions of 35 police officers from that day. We currently have suspended six of those officers with pay," the department said in a statement.

Capitol Police Acting Chief Yogananda Pittman further directed that any member whose behavior is not in keeping with the department's Rules of Conduct "will face appropriate discipline."

The department "has been actively reviewing video and other open source materials of some USCP officers and officials that appear to be in violation of Department regulations and policies," she said on Jan. 11.

Videos from the day of the attack appear to show some officers escorting rioters inside the building. In one video, USCP officers can be seen opening barricades allowing the mob to enter the Capitol complex without resistance.

Following the events, the union said that the department's leadership failed its officers by not relaying important information ahead of Jan. 6.

"The disclosure that the entire executive team ... knew what was coming but did not better prepare us for potential violence, including the possible use of firearms against us, is unconscionable," Papathanasiou said. "The entire executive team failed us, and they must be held accountable. Their inaction cost lives."

https://www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/02/19/969441904/capitol-police-suspends-6-officers-investigates-dozens-more-after-capitol-riots

It sounds to me like some of these officers being investigated may have given up to the mob when they were overwhelmed by the violence they were witnessing and just weren't prepared to stand against it. This certainly would explain the suicides that followed that day.

Truth7t7 · Jul 25, 2023

Hank77 said:
Following the events, the union said that the department's leadership failed its officers by not relaying important information ahead of Jan. 6.

"The disclosure that the entire executive team ... knew what was coming but did not better prepare us for potential violence, including the possible use of firearms against us, is unconscionable," Papathanasiou said. "The entire executive team failed us, and they must be held accountable. Their inaction cost lives."

https://www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/02/19/969441904/capitol-police-suspends-6-officers-investigates-dozens-more-after-capitol-riots

It sounds to me like some of these officers being investigated may have given up to the mob when they were overwhelmed by the violence they were witnessing and just weren't prepared to stand against it. This certainly would explain the suicides that followed that day.

That is your opinion and narrative in which I disagree

The capitol police opened barricades without resistance and provided capitol escorts in violation of policy

Tucker Carlsons video clip gives a much clearer perspective of inside the capitol building during this time, and his claims line up with the statements made by the Capitol police chief, perhaps you need to spend time and watch it?

Pommer · Jul 25, 2023

Truth7t7 said:
It's very important to present truth from different perspectives, to bring light to the claims of the liberal democratic media that presents distorted false narratives

Is that why there’s 4 gospels and the Easter morning stories don’t quite align?

Truth7t7 said:
Did you enjoy reading the Capitol police chiefs statements as reported, officers removing barricades for entrance to the capitol and escorting attendees in the capitol building in violation of policy?

I enjoy reading a wide variety of things but am too old and cagey to answer a loaded question like that.

Truth7t7 · Jul 25, 2023

Pommer said:
Is that why there’s 4 gospels and the Easter morning stories don’t quite align?

2 Timothy 3:16-17KJV
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Genesis 3:1-5KJV
1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Hank77 · Jul 25, 2023

Truth7t7 said:
That is your opinion and narrative in which I disagree

I don't have an opinion either way. I don't have enough facts for that.

Truth7t7 · Jul 25, 2023

Hank77 said:
I don't have an opinion either way. I don't have enough facts for that.

Of course you expressed your opinion in post #9, that the capitol police were overwhelmed by the mob and later commited suicide because of it, if that's not an opinion then what is, smiles!

(Quote Hank77 post #9)

"It sounds to me like some of these officers being investigated may have given up to the mob when they were overwhelmed by the violence they were witnessing and just weren't prepared to stand against it. This certainly would explain the suicides that followed that day."

Hans Blaster · Jul 25, 2023

Truth7t7 said:
2 Timothy 3:16-17KJV
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Genesis 3:1-5KJV
1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Funny this, neither of your clips are Easter stories from the Gospels.

But, as to the question in the title of this thread: No. (And it has been settled for about 2 years now.)

Hank77 · Jul 25, 2023

Truth7t7 said:
Of course you expressed your opinion in post #9, that the capitol police were overwhelmed by the mob and later commited suicide because of it, if that's not an opinion then what is, smiles!

That was not an opinion that was an idea about what might have happened.
An opinion is not the same thing as an idea. I have no opinion (belief) one way or another, I don't have enough information to form a belief (opinion).

It sounds to me like some of these officers being investigated may have given up to the mob when they were overwhelmed by the violence they were witnessing and just weren't prepared to stand against it. This certainly would explain the suicides that followed that day."
I should have said "could" rather than "would" to be consistent with the rest of my statement.

Truth7t7 · Jul 25, 2023

Hank77 said:
That was not an opinion that was an idea about what might have happened.
An opinion is not the same thing as an idea. I have no opinion (belief) one way or another, I don't have enough information to form a belief (opinion).

It sounds to me like some of these officers being investigated may have given up to the mob when they were overwhelmed by the violence they were witnessing and just weren't prepared to stand against it. This certainly would explain the suicides that followed that day."
I should have said "could" rather than "would" to be consistent with the rest of my statement.

The attached 9sec clip below, appears to be in perfect agreement with the Capitol Police Chiefs statement above, no violence is seen, as the Capitol police officer waves attendees into the Capitol, and a very high probability he's the one shouting "Go" "Go" "Go"?

Police Directing Trump Protesters into Capitol

FreeinChrist · Jul 26, 2023

Third thread on basically the same topic.

IF that cop is actually waving them in, they all are breaking the law. An error by the cop does not make the actions of the protesters legal. There were signs on the barricades that the area was closed. The barricades were up for a reason.

PolitiFact - Ask PolitiFact: Did Capitol Police let mob of Trump supporters in?

Question: "Did Capitol Police let a mob of Trump supporters into the building?" Answer: We didn’t

www.politifact.com

We have not seen evidence that Capitol Police granted rioters access to the building or that they were “in on” the breach, as some posts claim.
Footage that appeared to show some officers allowing rioters past barricades was misrepresented online. The journalist who shot the video said the officers backed off the barricade because they were “completely outnumbered.”
Other videos taken at different entrances back that up, and show rioters quickly overwhelming police barricades and eventually forcing officers to retreat.

This is what the officers had to deal with:

Blade · Jul 26, 2023

USincognito said:
What is the purpose of trying to gaslight people 28 months after the fact?

Also, what's the source for the quote in the OP?

Not the way I would have said it but.. yeah someone should stop this thread.. no good will come of it

Truth7t7 · Jul 26, 2023

FreeinChrist said:
IF that cop is actually waving them in, they all are breaking the law. An error by the cop does not make the actions of the protesters legal.

The federal judge that Aquited Martin on 4 counts of Trespassing, based upon his defense of the capitol officer waving attendees into the capitol building, is a very strong argument that your claim above could very well be wrong

Correction 7-26-2023 : Martin entered through the Capitol Rotunda door and not the barricaded area where the officer was waiving

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