Hunter Biden to plead guilty to three federal charges

ThatRobGuy · Jun 20, 2023

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/20/politics/hunter-biden/index.html

CNN —
Hunter Biden, the son of President Joe Biden, will plead guilty to three federal charges, the Justice Department said Tuesday in a court filing.

The plea deal will have immediate reverberations in the 2024 presidential election.

Hunter Biden will plead guilty to two federal tax misdemeanors and one charge tied to gun possession, according to the filing in a federal court in Delaware. He will appear in court to plead guilty to the charges at a future date.

This story is breaking and will be updated.

Arcangl86 · Jun 20, 2023

Good, maybe we'll stopping hearing constantly about him.

USincognito · Jun 20, 2023

Since I already used one of my WaPo gifts for this link.

https://wapo.st/3qPqSZI

I predict the Conservisphere will be outraged.

The IbanezerScrooge · Jun 20, 2023

Still not voting for that guy.

"The plea deal will have immediate reverberations in the 2024 presidential election."

Right, one party has a front-runner who is under indictment for literal espionage and may even be found guilty and sentenced to prison before the election and the other has a son who has never ran for any office who missed some tax payments and technically shouldn't have had a gun many years ago. :doh:

Say it aint so · Jun 20, 2023

Arcangl86 said:
Good, maybe we'll stopping hearing constantly about him.

That will not stop them one bit.

Say it aint so · Jun 20, 2023

I was off on my Feb prediction:

"I'm going to keep this for posterity, but here is my Hunter Biden prediction. He is under investigation for unpaid taxes and maybe not registering as a foreign agent. Like most Americans who are not abusing the tax system, nothing more is done outside of repayment of unpaid taxes and a fine. Hunter has already paid both. Then there is the gun. Lying on a gun permit is rarely charged. The FARA situation may be different if he like Flynn and Manafort failed to register as a foreign agent. The penalty for that is a 250k fine and the possibility of 5 years in jail. Trump associate Elliot Broidy pleaded guilty of not registering, and had to pay a fine and was then pardoned by Trump. So guess what's going to happen if Hunter pleads guilty or is found guilty? What is Joe going to do? I can just hear the heads exploding now.

The heads however will explode when Joe pardons Hunter.

Handmaid for Jesus · Jun 20, 2023

Arcangl86 said:
Good, maybe we'll stopping hearing constantly about him.

QFT!

Valletta · Jun 20, 2023

Arcangl86 said:
Good, maybe we'll stopping hearing constantly about him.

Hunter will also avoid potential charges of improper lobbying for foreign interests in connection with his work on the board of Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma Holdings. That is the subject of an ongoing investigation by the Republican-led House Oversight Committee. . .

Former President Donald Trump, meanwhile, was quick to weigh in, posting on Truth Social: “The corrupt Biden DOJ just cleared up hundreds of years of criminal liability by giving Hunter Biden a mere ‘traffic ticket.’ Our system is BROKEN!”

Hunter Biden avoids jail in plea deal after he’s slapped with federal tax and gun crime charges

First son Hunter Biden has agreed to plead guilty to federal tax and firearms charges in a deal with his father’s Justice Department that’s expected to carry no prison time and leave hi…

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Say it aint so · Jun 20, 2023

Valletta said:
Hunter will also avoid potential charges of improper lobbying for foreign interests in connection with his work on the board of Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma Holdings. That is the subject of an ongoing investigation by the Republican-led House Oversight Committee. . .
Former President Donald Trump, meanwhile, was quick to weigh in, posting on Truth Social: “The corrupt Biden DOJ just cleared up hundreds of years of criminal liability by giving Hunter Biden a mere ‘traffic ticket.’ Our system is BROKEN!”

Hunter Biden avoids jail in plea deal after he’s slapped with federal tax and gun crime charges

First son Hunter Biden has agreed to plead guilty to federal tax and firearms charges in a deal with his father’s Justice Department that’s expected to carry no prison time and leave hi…

nypost.com

One would think with all the "talking himself deeper hole in a hole" Trump did on FOX last night, he would take a pause.
But no, he's complaining about Hunter receiving a normal plea deal for not paying taxes, after he long ago paid the back taxes replete with fines.

SuperCow · Jun 20, 2023

The president will just pardon him anyway.

Hans Blaster · Jun 20, 2023

Say it aint so said:
One would think with all the "talking himself deeper hole in a hole" Trump did on FOX last night, he would take a pause.
But no, he's complaining about Hunter receiving a normal plea deal for not paying taxes, after he long ago paid the back taxes replete with fines.

Oh he's already paid the fines and back taxes. Then he's likely to only get probation. The US doesn't typically jail tax cheats, especially ones that comply and pay their fines. (It's a tax system, what they want is the cash.)

The gun charge (which is an odd duck anyway, "drug addict in possession of a gun" doesn't really feel like it should be a federal crime, but anyway) is noted in this letter to the court's clerk:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ded.82797/gov.uscourts.ded.82797.1.0_7.pdf

as requiring a "Pretrial Diversion Agreement" which sounds like a program wherein if he keeps of drugs for X years they won't bring him before a judge and ask for a jail sentence.

Overall (and we have to wait for the plea agreement and then the actual judge to sentence), it sounds like he's paying his tax fines, goes on a few years probation with anti-drug restrictions and likely no actual jail time.

Say it aint so · Jun 20, 2023

Hans Blaster said:
Oh he's already paid the fines and back taxes. Then he's likely to only get probation. The US doesn't typically jail tax cheats, especially ones that comply and pay their fines. (It's a tax system, what they want is the cash.)

The gun charge (which is an odd duck anyway, "drug addict in possession of a gun" doesn't really feel like it should be a federal crime, but anyway) is noted in this letter to the court's clerk:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ded.82797/gov.uscourts.ded.82797.1.0_7.pdf

as requiring a "Pretrial Diversion Agreement" which sounds like a program wherein if he keeps of drugs for X years they won't bring him before a judge and ask for a jail sentence.

Overall (and we have to wait for the plea agreement and then the actual judge to sentence), it sounds like he's paying his tax fines, goes on a few years probation with anti-drug restrictions and likely no actual jail time.

Yes, and this regarding Delaware DOJ's past history of pursuing those who lied on a gun permit when an addict:

"The data released by the Justice Department does not show how many people might have been prosecuted for falsely answering the question about active drug use. But a review of such cases in Delaware, also provided to The Fact Checker, shows that in fiscal 2019, only three Form 4473 cases were referred for prosecution in the state — and the U.S. attorney opted not to bring them."

Handmaid for Jesus · Jun 20, 2023

At least he pleaded guilty! :sigh:

SimplyMe · Jun 20, 2023

Valletta said:
Hunter will also avoid potential charges of improper lobbying for foreign interests in connection with his work on the board of Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma Holdings. That is the subject of an ongoing investigation by the Republican-led House Oversight Committee. . .
Former President Donald Trump, meanwhile, was quick to weigh in, posting on Truth Social: “The corrupt Biden DOJ just cleared up hundreds of years of criminal liability by giving Hunter Biden a mere ‘traffic ticket.’ Our system is BROKEN!”

Hunter Biden avoids jail in plea deal after he’s slapped with federal tax and gun crime charges

First son Hunter Biden has agreed to plead guilty to federal tax and firearms charges in a deal with his father’s Justice Department that’s expected to carry no prison time and leave hi…

nypost.com

It is odd that he blasts the DoJ for exchanging the not registering as a Foreign Agent charge against Hunter, but was completely silent when they did the same for Gen. Flynn -- who he pardoned (for lying to the FBI) despite having to fire him from his administration for his illegal acts.

It's almost like Trump has a double standard when it comes to justice, but I'm sure I'll be told that can't be true.

Brihaha · Jun 20, 2023

I wonder if republicans can be satisfied how President Biden didn't interfere with DOJ and let justice be done. What a stark contrast between this administration and the previous "acting" administration.

Hans Blaster · Jun 20, 2023

Say it aint so said:
Yes, and this regarding Delaware DOJ's past history of pursuing those who lied on a gun permit when an addict:

"The data released by the Justice Department does not show how many people might have been prosecuted for falsely answering the question about active drug use. But a review of such cases in Delaware, also provided to The Fact Checker, shows that in fiscal 2019, only three Form 4473 cases were referred for prosecution in the state — and the U.S. attorney opted not to bring them."

The US Attorney for the District of Delaware (the responsible prosecutor in this case, who makes the charging decisions) was appointed by Donald Trump in early 2018. The Biden transition asked him to stay on rather than make the customary resignation at the beginning of the new president's term to avoid the prospect of a Biden appointed USA making the decision to charge or not charge Biden's son.

Say it aint so · Jun 20, 2023

Brihaha said:
I wonder if republicans can be satisfied how President Biden didn't interfere with DOJ and let justice be done. What a stark contrast between this administration and the previous "acting" administration.

Has to be a rhetorical question. The fact Trump won a special counsel in Mueller because he wanted Comey to protect Mike Flynn, which was something that AG Bill Barr did immediately for Trump once in power .

Pommer · Jun 20, 2023

SuperCow said:
The president will just pardon him anyway.

When Joe ceases to be President and Hunter is still unpardoned will we see a retraction?

Arcangl86 · Jun 20, 2023

Honestly I expect a pardon, but it will probably be a midnight pardon when Biden leaves office.

DaisyDay · Jun 20, 2023

Say it aint so said:
I was off on my Feb prediction:

"I'm going to keep this for posterity, but here is my Hunter Biden prediction. He is under investigation for unpaid taxes and maybe not registering as a foreign agent. Like most Americans who are not abusing the tax system, nothing more is done outside of repayment of unpaid taxes and a fine. Hunter has already paid both. Then there is the gun. Lying on a gun permit is rarely charged. The FARA situation may be different if he like Flynn and Manafort failed to register as a foreign agent. The penalty for that is a 250k fine and the possibility of 5 years in jail. Trump associate Elliot Broidy pleaded guilty of not registering, and had to pay a fine and was then pardoned by Trump. So guess what's going to happen if Hunter pleads guilty or is found guilty? What is Joe going to do? I can just hear the heads exploding now.

The heads however will explode when Joe pardons Hunter.

I don't think he will pardon his son unless he loses reelection, then, maybe, as a departing gesture.

As it stands, I don't think he will pardon him as Hunter isn't in real jeopardy and the Democrats have become by default the law abiding party.

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