Far-right Republican groups surge in swing state Michigan

IMO is NOT a swing state. It is a solidly Democratic state, with a Democratic governor, AG, House and Senate.

It is interesting what some people list as "right wing" and "far right" in politics. Just a few:.

1. "The term right-wing can generally refer to the section of a political party or system that advocates free enterprise and private ownership, and typically favors' socially traditional ideas." IOWs capitalism. Apparently if you are not a socialist, you are a far right winger.
2. "Someone who is "right-wing" usually supports tradition and keeping things the way that they already are. The right-wing supports tradition and authority." IOWs conservatives, and therefore all republicans.
3. WIKIPEDIA -"Historically, "far-right politics" has been used to describe the experiences of fascism, Nazism, and Falangism. Contemporary definitions now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism, National Bolshevism and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and/or reactionary views. Far-right politics have led to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group, nation, state, national religion, dominant culture, or conservative social institutions. "

If this is what "far right" refers to, then there are zero "far right" republicans. I have been in republican politics for almost 60 years. I have never met a republican that even slightly approaches the above.
So the article is totally bogus... not worth discussing.

SavedByGrace3 said:

It is interesting what some people list as "right wing" and "far right" in politics. Just a few:.

1. "The term right-wing can generally refer to the section of a political party or system that advocates free enterprise and private ownership, and typically favors' socially traditional ideas." IOWs capitalism. Apparently if you are not a socialist, you are a far right winger.
2. "Someone who is "right-wing" usually supports tradition and keeping things the way that they already are. The right-wing supports tradition and authority." IOWs conservatives, and therefore all republicans.
3. WIKIPEDIA -"Historically, "far-right politics" has been used to describe the experiences of fascism, Nazism, and Falangism. Contemporary definitions now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism, National Bolshevism and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and/or reactionary views. Far-right politics have led to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group, nation, state, national religion, dominant culture, or conservative social institutions. "

If this is what "far right" refers to, then there are zero "far right" republicans. I have been in republican politics for almost 60 years. I have never met a republican that even slightly approaches the above.
So the article is totally bogus... not worth discussing.

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One of the candidates that has already announced a run for the Republican nomination for president in 2024 and is currently the front-runner is openly and proudly authoritarian, and declared himself a nationalist. His remarks concerning women, particularly the Access Hollywood dialogue suggests a tendancy toward chauvinsim if not outright chauvinist. The constant refrain of sending people back to their own country, the attitude toward immigration in general, as well as building walls leans xenophobic. He had a strong theocratic message which appealed to an extraordinary number of evangelicals who also tend to be theocratic. He had overwhelming support from white supremacist groups that are by definition racists. He defended them and tailored language to appeal to them. Within those last two groups absolute opposition and support for laws against homsexuals, homosexuality and transgenders is common. That suggests some homophobic and transphobic attitudes.

I haven't met anyone, republican or otherwise, who supports or has supported the current front runner for the GOP nomination for President of the USA in 2024 who doesn't have, at the minimum, some of those proclivities. I would go further and say that those characteristics define the GOP of the last several years. So much so, that anyone claiming to be a republican and not exude those qualities are, even within their own ranks, called Republican in name only as a pejorative.
YMMV

essentialsaltes said:

“We need to redefine what it means to be a Republican," he said in an interview

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He”s not wrong, but probably not for the correct reasons.

SavedByGrace3 said:

It is interesting what some people list as "right wing" and "far right" in politics. Just a few:.

1. "The term right-wing can generally refer to the section of a political party or system that advocates free enterprise and private ownership, and typically favors' socially traditional ideas." IOWs capitalism. Apparently if you are not a socialist, you are a far right winger.
2. "Someone who is "right-wing" usually supports tradition and keeping things the way that they already are. The right-wing supports tradition and authority." IOWs conservatives, and therefore all republicans.
3. WIKIPEDIA -"Historically, "far-right politics" has been used to describe the experiences of fascism, Nazism, and Falangism. Contemporary definitions now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism, National Bolshevism and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and/or reactionary views. Far-right politics have led to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group, nation, state, national religion, dominant culture, or conservative social institutions. "

If this is what "far right" refers to, then there are zero "far right" republicans. I have been in republican politics for almost 60 years. I have never met a republican that even slightly approaches the above.
So the article is totally bogus... not worth discussing.

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The Michigan GOP seems to have exited the “liberal-conservative” continuum and has strayed far to the right.
Remember, “conservative≠right(-wing)” all of the time.

SavedByGrace3 said:

It is interesting what some people list as "right wing" and "far right" in politics. Just a few:.

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3. WIKIPEDIA -"Historically, "far-right politics" has been used to describe the experiences of fascism, Nazism, and Falangism. Contemporary definitions now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism, National Bolshevism and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and/or reactionary views. Far-right politics have led to oppression, political violence, forced assimilation, ethnic cleansing, and genocide against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority or their perceived threat to the native ethnic group, nation, state, national religion, dominant culture, or conservative social institutions. "

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You skipped right over the first paragraph on Wikipedia and went to the second paragraph, which describes how "far-right" has appeared historically. It is not about the present time. Here is the more proper first paragraph on Wikipedia that is actually more like a definition:

Far-right politics, also referred to as the extreme right or right-wing extremism, are political beliefs and actions further to the right of the left–right political spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of being radically conservative, ultra-nationalist, and authoritarian, as well as having nativist ideologies and tendencies.

This definitely describes the current "Trump wing" of the Republican Party.