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The FBI’s raid on Mar-a-Lago: One BIG nothingburger

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Thus far, the Justice Department’s endless pursuit of the president has been a whopping “nothingburger” that has served only to further erode the public’s trust in American institutions tasked with protecting the citizens of the U.S.

Trump remarked on Truth Social on Friday: “Under the Presidential Records Act and the very well established Clinton Socks Case, the raid of Mar-a-Lago by the FBI, and the taking of documents and many other items, was ILLEGAL. Everything should be returned, at once!”
 

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Thanks for sharing the former president's personal opinion on this matter.

After what Newsweek described as his worst legal week ever, the Walker loss, and plummeting polls, he is obviously worried.
 
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the taking of documents and many other items, was ILLEGAL. Everything should be returned, at once!”

Have Trump's lawyers filed a court thingy to that effect? That would seem to resolve the case right away.
 
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Thus far, the Justice Department’s endless pursuit of the president has been a whopping “nothingburger” that has served only to further erode the public’s trust in American institutions tasked with protecting the citizens of the U.S.

Trump remarked on Truth Social on Friday: “Under the Presidential Records Act and the very well established Clinton Socks Case, the raid of Mar-a-Lago by the FBI, and the taking of documents and many other items, was ILLEGAL. Everything should be returned, at once!”
Nobody seems much interested any more.

At one time the press would be all over this. So far, a big fat nothingburger of a story.
 
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Nobody seems much interested any more.

At one time the press would be all over this. So far, a big fat nothingburger of a story.
The press needs excitement to move a story. Investigations move slowly and are shelved by the press because of the short attention span of viewers. Time will tell if anything more comes of this.
 
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Nobody seems much interested any more.

At one time the press would be all over this. So far, a big fat nothingburger of a story.
Are you kidding? A lot has been happening with the latest being that a judge refused to hold Trump in contempt for not complying with the subpoena - but many people are saying that is because the DOJ should just indict him already over the stolen documents and obstruction of justice rather than tiptoe around the ex.
 
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Are you kidding?
I wasn't, but over here there is nothing on this story. My Google search yielded nothing either...

I have looked again. I have seen the story referred to, but it still seems quiet. Maybe Monday's reports will pick this up. So far, it looks to me as if Trump is yesterday's news.
 
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I wasn't, but over here there is nothing on this story. My Google search yielded nothing either...

I have looked again. I have seen the story referred to, but it still seems quiet. Maybe Monday's reports will pick this up. So far, it looks to me as if Trump is yesterday's news.
I follow Glenn Kirshner on youtube - he has a lot to say about it.

 
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Thus far, the Justice Department’s endless pursuit of the president has been a whopping “nothingburger” that has served only to further erode the public’s trust in American institutions tasked with protecting the citizens of the U.S.

Trump remarked on Truth Social on Friday: “Under the Presidential Records Act and the very well established Clinton Socks Case, the raid of Mar-a-Lago by the FBI, and the taking of documents and many other items, was ILLEGAL. Everything should be returned, at once!”
Ex president complains: 'It wasn't me. I didn't do anything. Why is everybody picking on me. It's not fair!'

I'm paraphrasing of course. But that's about the gist of it.
 
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I follow Glenn Kirshner on youtube - he has a lot to say about it.

As I have said, pretty quiet. Never heard of him. Never look at YouTube. (I confess I was looking for Trump stories in the press and tv news.)
 
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I wasn't, but over here there is nothing on this story. My Google search yielded nothing either...

I have looked again. I have seen the story referred to, but it still seems quiet. Maybe Monday's reports will pick this up. So far, it looks to me as if Trump is yesterday's news.
Seems to be something strange going on with your Google. It would be interesting what you used for the search criteria.

I just now did a search for "mara lago document"
And the first link

Trump team finds classified documents outside Mar-a-Lago​


Second link

Outside review of documents seized at Mar-a-Lago officially ...​



I did another search on "Classified Documents Trump"
First link
Judge declines DOJ request to hold Trump team in contempt over classified documents

Court files show evidence Trump handled records marked ...​


The most important recent developments are:
1. Trump's lawyers hired a company to perform a physical search of some of Trump's properties and they found two more classified documents.
2. The DoJ lost in court in trying to get Trump and his lawyers for Obstruction. Instead the judge told the two sides to sort this out themselves.

In terms of consequences we still have a Trump lawyer in trouble for falsely signing a letter saying that Trump had no more documents. This happened before the raid of Mara logo which discovered hundreds of documents.

Even though a company hired by Trump's lawyers did a recent search. Neither Trump nor his lawyers will sign a new letter testifying that Trump no longer has any classified documents or presidential records.
The National archives say that documents are still missing.
 
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I should, perhaps have been clearer. I meant that, in contrast to Trump's tweets of yesteryear which were headline news, the press has not picked up on his 'Truth Social' message of last Friday:
Trump remarked on Truth Social on Friday: “Under the Presidential Records Act and the very well established Clinton Socks Case, the raid of Mar-a-Lago by the FBI, and the taking of documents and many other items, was ILLEGAL. Everything should be returned, at once!”
I searched for reactions to it, and found none. Of course there are numerous articles about the ongoing criminal proceedings - Mar a Largo and the alleged wholesale fraud by his organisation.
 
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Seems to be something strange going on with your Google. It would be interesting what you used for the search criteria.

I just now did a search for "mara lago document"
And the first link

Trump team finds classified documents outside Mar-a-Lago

Second link

Outside review of documents seized at Mar-a-Lago officially ...


I did another search on "Classified Documents Trump"
First link
Judge declines DOJ request to hold Trump team in contempt over classified documents

Court files show evidence Trump handled records marked ...

The most important recent developments are:
1. Trump's lawyers hired a company to perform a physical search of some of Trump's properties and they found two more classified documents.
2. The DoJ lost in court in trying to get Trump and his lawyers for Obstruction. Instead the judge told the two sides to sort this out themselves.

In terms of consequences we still have a Trump lawyer in trouble for falsely signing a letter saying that Trump had no more documents. This happened before the raid of Mara logo which discovered hundreds of documents.

Even though a company hired by Trump's lawyers did a recent search. Neither Trump nor his lawyers will sign a new letter testifying that Trump no longer has any classified documents or presidential records.
The National archives say that documents are still missing.
No one proved that any of those documents are classified, yet the press reports it as fact.
 
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No one proved that any of those documents are classified, yet the press reports it as fact.
Oh boy. Did you see the photo?

Plus, it doesn't actually matter if they are classified or not. They are government property. They are part of the presidential record.
 
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I should, perhaps have been clearer. I meant that, in contrast to Trump's tweets of yesteryear which were headline news, the press has not picked up on his 'Truth Social' message of last Friday:

I searched for reactions to it, and found none. Of course there are numerous articles about the ongoing criminal proceedings - Mar a Largo and the alleged wholesale fraud by his organisation.
Still nothing.

It increasingly appears that Trump is finished, yesterday's man. He thrives in the limelight and it has dimmed...
 
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Still nothing.

It increasingly appears that Trump is finished, yesterday's man. He thrives in the limelight and it has dimmed...
Hopefully. Time for the new boogieman DeSantis to take center stage.
 
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Hopefully. Time for the new boogieman DeSantis to take center stage.
I know little about him beyond his reputation as a 'Trump lite' conservative. Perhaps, now that the Republican Party is creeping out of Trump's gloomy shadow DeSantis can assume the mantle of a more mainstream Republican. Should we expect him - and other potential runners in 2024 - to tack a little away from radical conservative positions?
 
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I know little about him beyond his reputation as a 'Trump lite' conservative. Perhaps, now that the Republican Party is creeping out of Trump's gloomy shadow DeSantis can assume the mantle of a more mainstream Republican. Should we expect him - and other potential runners in 2024 - to tack a little away from radical conservative positions?
I've heard some on the right gleefully proclaiming that those who hate Trump, will hate DeSantis much more if he becomes potus.
 
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