Domestic Terrorists Threaten Pro-Lifers Again

HARK! · Dec 9, 2022

The death threat stated, “If our right to abortion in Bellevue is taken away due to the attempt to pass an abortion ban and it gets passed we will shoot up your Newman Center with our new AR14 rifles. Sincerely, Jane’s Revenge.” The letter was addressed to Newman Center director Rev. Dan Andrews.

Someone claiming to be part of the pro-abortion group allegedly also threatened Christ Community Church — just under six miles from the Newman Center — later that Saturday, according to a local report. “The note threatened violence and also mentioned Jane’s Revenge,” the Scottsbluff Star-Herald wrote.

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This is not the first time abortion radicals claiming to be part of Jane's Revenge have threatened or attacked pro-lifers.

thefederalist.com

Pommer · Dec 10, 2022

HARK! said:
The death threat stated, “If our right to abortion in Bellevue is taken away due to the attempt to pass an abortion ban and it gets passed we will shoot up your Newman Center with our new AR14 rifles. Sincerely, Jane’s Revenge.” The letter was addressed to Newman Center director Rev. Dan Andrews.

Someone claiming to be part of the pro-abortion group allegedly also threatened Christ Community Church — just under six miles from the Newman Center — later that Saturday, according to a local report. “The note threatened violence and also mentioned Jane’s Revenge,” the Scottsbluff Star-Herald wrote.

Abortion Radicals Threaten To 'Shoot Up' Pro-Lifers. Will FBI Care?

This is not the first time abortion radicals claiming to be part of Jane's Revenge have threatened or attacked pro-lifers.

thefederalist.com

The Feds ain’t taking this as serious as they should, you* say?
[Source]

*generic, not specifying the OP

HARK! · Dec 10, 2022

Pommer said:
The Feds ain’t taking this as serious as they should, you say?

Where did I say that?

Pommer · Dec 10, 2022

HARK! said:
Where did I say that?

Edited.

Don't Panic · Dec 10, 2022

Pommer said:
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The Feds ain’t taking this as serious as they should, you* say?
[Source]

*generic, not specifying the OP

Well, it doesn't have a smiley face so it must be serious.
I think they have been punked again.
AR 14

or is it AR74

HARK! · Dec 10, 2022

Don't Panic said:
or is it AR74

Looks like a French 7 to me.

rambot · Dec 10, 2022

HARK! said:
The death threat stated, “If our right to abortion in Bellevue is taken away due to the attempt to pass an abortion ban and it gets passed we will shoot up your Newman Center with our new AR14 rifles. Sincerely, Jane’s Revenge.” The letter was addressed to Newman Center director Rev. Dan Andrews.

Someone claiming to be part of the pro-abortion group allegedly also threatened Christ Community Church — just under six miles from the Newman Center — later that Saturday, according to a local report. “The note threatened violence and also mentioned Jane’s Revenge,” the Scottsbluff Star-Herald wrote.

Abortion Radicals Threaten To 'Shoot Up' Pro-Lifers. Will FBI Care?

This is not the first time abortion radicals claiming to be part of Jane's Revenge have threatened or attacked pro-lifers.

thefederalist.com

In the 70s and 80s, left wing were by far the bigger terrorist threat in the US. This is what the FBI and intelligence agencies have long maintained.

It has swung drastically over to the right. This is what the FBI and intelligence agencies have long maintained.

Neither time were exclusive; just more common.

HARK! · Dec 10, 2022

rambot said:
In the 70s and 80s, left wing were by far the bigger terrorist threat in the US. This is what the FBI and intelligence agencies have long maintained.

It has swung drastically over to the right. This is what the FBI and intelligence agencies have long maintained.

Neither time were exclusive; just more common.

Are BLM and Antifa members included in the current Administration's FBI tally?

rambot · Dec 10, 2022

HARK! said:
Are BLM and Antifa members included in the current Administration's FBI tally?

No. As an organization, they're purposefully ignoring dangerous individuals because of their political affiliation
Come on.

Smarten up.

Don't Panic · Dec 10, 2022

HARK! said:
Looks like a French 7 to me.

Agreed which along with the childish handwriting etc makes it pretty much obviously a spoof. Which brings up the question of why you and the Federalist seem to take it seriously. It is articles like this with no attempt to discuss the credibility of the source material that cause others to dismiss everything you have to say and give your sources bad reputations.
I'm sure you have heard the story about the boy who cried wolf, think about it again.

HARK! · Dec 10, 2022

Don't Panic said:
Agreed which along with the childish handwriting etc makes it pretty much obviously a spoof.

What is obvious is that this terrorist group has a strong knowledge of firearms.

The AR74, the rock and lock 5.45 AR

In addition, I would not recommend that anyone spoof an act of terrorism. Sending terrorists threats, even if those threats are not carried out, is an act of terrorism.

If this was some sort of sick joke; those who defend life will have the last laugh when these terrorists get life behind bars,

Desk trauma · Dec 10, 2022

HARK! said:
If this was some sort of sick joke; those who defend life will have the last laugh when these terrorists get life behind bars,

In Nebraska such threats are a class IIIA felony which has a maximum sentence of 3 years. Bit shy of a life sentence.

Whyayeman · Dec 10, 2022

HARK! said:
In addition, I would not recommend that anyone spoof an act of terrorism. Sending terrorists threats, even if those threats are not carried out, is an act of terrorism.

Good advice. In the Nineties there were numerous cases at British airports where in the tradition of English humour people stated that there was a bomb in their luggage. The authorities never saw the joke and people missed their planes - and worse.

Figures for acts of terrorism in the UK are pretty consistent. Extreme right wing terrorism is much more prevalent than any other, including the various flavours of Jihadism. (Figures available on request.)

HARK! · Dec 10, 2022

Whyayeman said:
Figures for acts of terrorism in the UK are pretty consistent. Extreme right wing terrorism is much more prevalent than any other, including the various flavours of Jihadism. (Figures available on request.)

Left-Wing terrorists in the U.S. are mostly peaceful as our cities burn. I thought that the IRA were Marxists.

Whyayeman · Dec 10, 2022

HARK! said:
Left-Wing terrorists in the U.S. are mostly peaceful as our cities burn.

Is that a teeny exaggeration? I haven't heard of any actual cities burning.

There have been a couple of murders of politicians - Members of Parliament - here in recent years, committed by avowed extreme right wing activists. It is an alarming trend.

HARK! · Dec 10, 2022

Whyayeman said:
Is that a teeny exaggeration? I haven't heard of any actual cities burning.

This is just one day, in one city:

Whyayeman · Dec 11, 2022

Hmm, I see. Perhaps we are working on slightly different definitions of terrorism here. In the UK we consider IRA and jihadist bombs etc as terrorism; riots are in a different category, terrifying though they can be. Riotous behaviour here is considered properly criminal but the perpetrators are not prosecuted under anti-terrorism legislation (draconian laws about how long suspects can be held without charge). I don't think it is very different in the USA; our laws are similar, I think.

The IRA has not been active since the Good Friday Agreement 1998, so maybe not really relevant to this discussion. (By the way it is - was - not a monolithic organisation. There have always been splits and factions, in the way of all extremist organisations. The Provisional Republican Army - the Provos - were certainly Marxist in origin, though much of that was forgotten or ignored and became just another rival branch of the Nationalist extreme. I doubt if many adherents knew much about Communism or had any enthusiasm for it. Mainly they liked killing Brits!)

21st century terrorist acts are on the increase; 41% of terrorism arrests in 2021 were of extreme right-wing suspects. Not a majority but very significant. Arrests jihad-related suspects are falling. Of course, jihadism can be regarded as right-wing too.

I cannot find anything which fits the description of left wing terrorism which has occurred in the UK this century.

HARK! · Dec 11, 2022

Whyayeman said:
Hmm, I see. Perhaps we are working on slightly different definitions of terrorism here. In the UK we consider IRA and jihadist bombs etc as terrorism; riots are in a different category, terrifying though they can be. Riotous behaviour here is considered properly criminal but the perpetrators are not prosecuted under anti-terrorism legislation (draconian laws about how long suspects can be held without charge). I don't think it is very different in the USA; our laws are similar, I think.

Here is just one code that exists in the U.S. regarding terrorism:

18 U.S. Code § 2332b - Acts of terrorism transcending national boundaries

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(a)Prohibited Acts.—
(1) Offenses.—Whoever, involving conduct transcending national boundaries and in a circumstance described in subsection (b)—
(A)
kills, kidnaps, maims, commits an assault resulting in serious bodily injury, or assaults with a dangerous weapon any person within the United States; or
(B)
creates a substantial risk of serious bodily injury to any other person by destroying or damaging any structure, conveyance, or other real or personal property within the United States or by attempting or conspiring to destroy or damage any structure, conveyance, or other real or personal property within the United States;
in violation of the laws of any State, or the United States, shall be punished as prescribed in subsection (c).
(2)Treatment of threats, attempts and conspiracies.—
Whoever threatens to commit an offense under paragraph (1), or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be punished under subsection (c).

18 U.S. Code § 2332b - Acts of terrorism transcending national boundaries

www.law.cornell.edu

No one really knows how many laws are on the books in the U.S.; and in addition, there are the codes. U.S. codes will fill a bookcase; and that doesn't include State codes which vary from state to state.

One could be charged for rioting, arson, and terrorism, among other charges, for a single act.

Here is one legal definition of terrorism:

Terrorism Law and Legal Definition

According to 6 USCS § 101, the term terrorism is "any activity that--

(A) involves an act that--

(i) is dangerous to human life or potentially destructive of critical infrastructure or key resources; and

(ii) is a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State or other subdivision of the United States; and

(B) appears to be intended--

(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping."

Terrorism Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.

According to 6 USCS § 101, the term terrorism is

definitions.uslegal.com

Desk trauma · Dec 11, 2022

HARK! said:
18 U.S. Code § 2332b - Acts of terrorism transcending national boundaries

You think someone traveled internationally to scrawl that note?

Also of note the threats penalty max is ten years in the linked law, not life.

HARK! · Dec 11, 2022

Desk trauma said:
You think someone traveled internationally to scrawl that note?

Also of note the threats penalty max is ten years in the linked law, not life.

Like I said, that is but one of many of just the Federal codes that doesn't include Federal laws, State codes, not State or local laws.

If you read a little further down my post, you'll find that it fits a Federal legal definition of terrorism.

Because the note was written with a French 7; I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a foreigner having written the note.

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