The U.S. bishops banned me from sharing the Catechism — and they don’t want you sharing it either...

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This is what they told me.

After the success of his Bible in a Year podcast (it hit the number one position in the Apple podcast charts for multiple weeks), Father Mike Schmitz’s new project was just announced. He’s started working on a catechism-in-a-year project. This isn’t the first time something like this has been developed. But, unlike when I attempted this project, it seems that Father Schmitz’s work won’t be barred by the USCCB.

In 2015, I started building a team to promote the Catechism of the Catholic Church. The Daily Catechist would be a website run by Catholic millennials, where we would daily post a paragraph from the Catechism with short, accessible reflections, available by email and/or on the site. I had assembled an eager team, including a chief director, a social media director, two site directors, a communications a director, an editorial director, and an editorial team. But as word started getting out about the project, I was warned about past attempted initiatives.

In 2011, Matt Warner attempted to start a similar project, called “Read the Catechism in the Year.” Participants would receive daily emails with portions of the Catechism and, after a year, would have read it in its entirety. The project attracted more than 100,000 subscribers. But several months into the project, the USCCB sent him a cease and desist letter, stating that he did not have permission to share the Catechism and to immediately shut down the project.

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The USCCB wouldn’t let me share the Catechism

 

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Good for them!
What this author just doesn't understand is that the Catechism is not just a regular book, nor should it be treated as such.
And good for the Bishops for safeguarding what they have been entrusted with!
 
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Good for them!
What this author just doesn't understand is that the Catechism is not just a regular book, nor should it be treated as such.
And good for the Bishops for safeguarding what they have been entrusted with!
Really? Lol!
 
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Supposedly it's a copyright issue and people have a hard time getting permission to share the entire text of the catechism.

The webpage that you linked to has a comment that says:
St. Charles Boromeo Catholic Church in Picayune, Mississippi has a searchable, indexed version of The Second Edition English Translation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church on their website. The copyright permission is listed as:

Copyright permission for posting of the english translation of the CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH on the Saint Charles Borromeo Catholic Church web site was granted by Amministrazione Del Patrimonio Della Sede Apostolica, case number 130389.

Catechism of the Catholic Church

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I've known a number of people who have tried to work with that office for permissions. I suspect there's some policy or contract behind it where the work involved in getting permission would be onerous, and they don't want to try to change that policy or agreement.
 
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Good for them!
What this author just doesn't understand is that the Catechism is not just a regular book, nor should it be treated as such.
And good for the Bishops for safeguarding what they have been entrusted with!

Actually, permission is sometimes granted to share the whole text of the catechism. Fr. Michael Schmitz is planning to do a podcast on the Catechism in a Year.

It seems that the most likely explanation is the issue of who holds the copyright. It could technically be the Vatican itself, not just the US Council of Catholic Bishops, and it could be hard to get permission from such a high level. At least, that is my impression, because an Italian/Latin source was cited in the case of the Mississippi sharer of the Catechism that I cited above. By comparison, it's been hard for Catholics to get divorces because they have to be approved at a high level.
 
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We were taught to share the Catechism in RCIA. It can also be used as an evangelical tool.

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I'm not Catholic, so I don't know how much it is my role here to comment on this kind of touchy issue. I attended a Catholic teachings class in college and liked it.

There are probably a couple factors. Like I said, one could be the copyright issue, where the copyright holder and permission source would be up at a high level, like the Vatican. In that case, you could write to your bishop and he might want to grant it, but due to copyright, the Vatican would have to be the one granting it.

Following your RCIA, you could be encouraged to share the Catechism and then do it informally on your own with friends, but it sounded like your article author was trying to get a big project going and share it online via a committee, etc. So your bishop could be glad that you want to share the Catechism, but due to copyright you would have to just link to the USCCB website or Vatican website for each section instead of directly quoting them.

Sure, I sympathize with your concern. In the EO Church, things are not as top-down. From my perspective, and maybe you would agree, Protestants and Catholics seem to have opposite extremes on issues of centralization of authority. For example, last night I read Luther's passage where he agreed that the Church had the authority to judge issues, but in Luther's interpretation, this Biblical idea just meant that everyday Christians who made up the Church had the right to judge issues as much as Church councils, theologians, and leaders did. I think that Luther's interpretation was not realistic, because in Acts, a Council did take a position on an issue. But to some extent, some of Luther's overall criticism of the degree of Catholic centralization seems reasonable.

If I wanted to do an EO catechism class and not worry about copyright, I could just get the 19th century Russian catechism, which is still being printed today by EOs.
 
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We have similar copyright on our LCMS hymnals. Pastors are not allowed to share it in it's entirety.

But, anyone can buy a catechism (or hymnal), so....

You can't duplicate many Bible translations either.

Should there be copyright on liturgical material and catechisms? Idk.

Supposedly it's a copyright issue and people have a hard time getting permission to share the entire text of the catechism.

The webpage that you linked to has a comment that says:

The article author wrote:
 
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I think he just ran into a genuine stick in the mud bureaucrat. Perhaps, oh, I shouldn't even speculate as to why. But one who enjoys saying 'no' as a way to have power in the Church. Had Fr. Mike Schmitz been unlucky to have dealt with her he would most likely have gotten the same 'no'.
I’d inquire with someone else.
 
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I’d inquire with someone else.
Yeah, but you don't know who Fr. Schmitz contacted, so it might not have just been as simple as contacting others in the USCCB. Fr. Schmitz could have contacted a colleague who knew someone in the Vatican, and then the Vatican gave permission.
 
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Good for them!
What this author just doesn't understand is that the Catechism is not just a regular book, nor should it be treated as such.
And good for the Bishops for safeguarding what they have been entrusted with!



Safeguarding? They should be wholly onboard with sharing the catechism and possibly reaching out to a whole new generation of young Catholics. Who will hear the word?
 
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Safeguarding? They should be wholly onboard with sharing the catechism and possibly reaching out to a whole new generation of young Catholics. Who will hear the word?
Seems like this staffer wants the catechism hid under a bushel basket. There are people out there who really dislike that we have a catechism.
 
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Seems like this staffer wants the catechism hid under a bushel basket. There are people out there who really dislike that we have a catechism.
It’s too easy to point to the teachings of the Church. It’s pretty inconvenient for those of a certain mindset these days.
 
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