Always so truculent. Many churches of all kinds, of course.Why so many Catholic churches?
Of course not. Why can't you see that church divisions are caused by churches wanting to practice their independence, to assert their own particular views and preferences from interpretations to practices.So...there are many churches. Some are classified as Protestant and others are classified as Catholic. Is that your point?
Of course not. Why can't you see that church divisions are caused by churches wanting to practice their independence, to assert their own particular views and preferences from interpretations to practices.
Why cannot you see the issue as affecting ALL Christian churches and groupings of churches?
You wanted to make "I think for myself" into the standard of Protestant theology as opposed to other Christians and Christian churches (see post 179), but that would be dead wrong, incorrect, mistaken, misinformed, false, baseless, etc. etc. etc.
Not just now. I've made this point at least a dozen times, and probably more, whenever the same, lame, argument is thrown at Protestantism by the members of the Roman Catholic Church. And I had to make it several times on this thread just to try to get you to even recognize a false charge against Protestants.So now you admit it is an issue that affects all Christian Churches?
Sure, but then look at what was posted in the messages that followed. 173-181, for instance.In post #162 I stated, " If one can no longer share the particular beliefs and interpretations, the community no longer feels right." At that point one often leaves that church in search of another or none. Catholic or protestant. One that fits better or is more aligned with "Me".
There are many Churches who have separated from Peter yet still call themselves Catholic. They are no better off than the 30,000 protestant denominationsWhy cannot you see the issue as affecting ALL Christian churches and groupings of churches?
You wanted to make "I think for myself" into the standard of Protestant theology as opposed to other Christians and Christian churches (see post 179), but that would be dead wrong, incorrect, mistaken, misinformed, false, baseless, etc. etc. etc.
I agree and so does scriptures.
1 Timothy 2: 5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time,
You don’t need to confess your sins to a human when we can go directly to Christ. We do not need a mediator because Christ is our Mediator!
God bless!
thank you for YOUR fallible opinion of scripture.It seems that many Catholics do not believe that the veil in the temple was torn from top to bottom so, they feel they need to go to a priest or through a priest and ask for forgiveness. This would imply they do not believe in the full crucifixion as described in scripture.
Maybe, but don't miss the point that is basic in all of this. It is fundamentally a trick when somebody says "Look at my own denomination/church. It stands for X. Compare that with the hundreds or thousands of other churches. As we can see, Protestantism is fractured. The Catholic Church is one entity. Therefore, Protestantism is confused and everyone gets to believe whatever he wants to believe--unlike Catholicism."There are many Churches who have separated from Peter yet still call themselves Catholic. They are no better off than the 30,000 protestant denominations
Maybe, but don't miss the point that is basic in all of this. It is fundamentally a trick when somebody says "Look at my own denomination/church. It stands for X. Compare that with the hundreds or thousands of other churches. As we can see, Protestantism is fractured. The Catholic Church is one entity. Therefore, Protestantism is confused and everyone gets to believe whatever he wants to believe--unlike Catholicism."
That kind of argument, as common as it is, still is inherently false.
I do not expect anyone who likes to use it to stop doing so just because it's erroneous, but I can point out that it is a false argument when one denomination is contrasted with a whole bunch of other ones in order to say "Look, we are united unlike them!"
I told the priest that I left the church because they never taught me the gospel of grace, that I didn't accept the Pope's authority and that I wanted to interpret the Bible myself without the guidance of millennia of Church teachings (like praying to Saints), but I was very intent on living for Jesus and serving God as a missionary. Surprisingly, the priest actually agreed that it was better for me to leave the Catholic church. That's my story in a nutshell.
I encourage other Christians who have left the Catholic church to share their stories as well.
Then why so many churches?
the Westboro Baptist Church displays the phenomenon of protestantism quite well. It's all about what I think scripture teaches
One tiny congregation that is criticized by almost everyone on all sides of these debates does not make much of an example or object lesson about anything, however.
the belief in the necessity of Baptism for Salvation was a universal belief amongst Christians. Today, you have many protestant denominations teaching the exact opposite (based on scripture). This departure should have every Christian quaking in their boots.
Yes, but it's more than that in this case because not only is what Westboro is best known for--those intrusive and insulting demonstrations at other people's funerals--but a huge percentage of Protestant churches denounced that action as well.ok one tiny congregation ... so you're saying one cannot accuse 100's of millions of Christians of whatever one find "one tiny congregation" doing?
I'd agree, and that's why I stuck to the facts in that reply without drifting into an unnecessary display of personal feelings. And of course, no personal attacks upon the other person just because he was incorrect about the facts. You might want to consider following my lead in that respect.Facts don't care about your feelings. You set up a false narrative to deflect. The argument you whine about is true and it will be used again and again.
facts dont care about my feeling either. I post facts, if you disagree and get all sideways about it, I cant do anything about that.I'd agree, and that's why I stuck to the facts in that reply without drifting into an unnecessary display of personal feelings. And of course, no personal attacks upon the other person just because he was incorrect about the facts. You might want to consider following my lead in that respect.