Loudoun County students stage walkout over sexual assault handling

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This is one of the #metoo stories that the anti-woman left wants to ignore because it involves a "gender fluid" boy sexually assaulting a girl in a bathroom. Well fortunately it seems that the students in those schools don't wish to ignore it.

Loudoun County students stage walkout over sexual assault handling

"Scores of students at Loudoun County public high schools walked out of class Tuesday to protest the county school board’s handling of a sexual assault that has drawn nationwide attention.

Videos showed large numbers of students outside the entrances of all the major county high schools.

Students outside Broad Run High School were recorded chanting “Loudoun County protects rapists.” Video from Loudoun County High School showed a much quieter scene, while students at Riverside High School were chanting outside the entrance to the school."

"A graphic circulating online before the protest called on students and teachers to walk out of class for 10 minutes to “show solidarity to victims of sexual violence and demand safety in our schools.”

The student protest came the morning after a juvenile court judge convicted a 15-year-old student of sexually assaulting a ninth-grade girl in the women’s restroom of Stone Bridge High School. The student was allegedly wearing a skirt during the assault."​
Out of 15,000 K-high school sexual assaults a year, why is this one special? The fact that the assailant was charged and punished is in itself unusual. High schools traditionally don't handle sexual assaults well.

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The discourse around sexual assault has typically revolved around college campuses, where surveys found that up to one in five women experience sexual violence. Under President Barack Obama, the Education Department stepped up enforcement of civil rights laws that required colleges and universities to investigate claims of sexual assault.
But it has gotten far less attention in the K-12 setting, where administrators are far more likely to be unprepared or unaware of their obligations under federal law when it comes to handling allegations of sexual assault. Unlike colleges, where students often get training or information about where to go to report a sexual assault, grade school students might not know who to tell.
Shiwali Patel, director of justice for student survivors and senior counsel at the National Women’s Law Center, said the data probably represents an undercount of the sexual violence students have experienced. She has represented female students who were accused of lying and suspended from school for reporting assaults. In one case, a student who reported that she had been assaulted was pressured into recanting and then punished.
 
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To be very clear. Rape is a horrible crime that leaves the victim traumatized for the rest of his or her life. Every case is one case too much. Every perpetrator needs to be punished according to the criminal justice code, and every victim should be taken care of.

True.

Wrong. Everything you wrote is wrong.
There are 135.000 reported cases of attempted or completed rape in the US yearly.
You don't find it necessary to open a thread about any of these. But when a transperson is involved then all the sudden it's a big deal. For you.

Rape is ALWAYS a big deal for practically EVERY woman. We live with the threat of rape on a daily basis. So yes, it's going to be a big deal as well when people are trying to get laws and policies changed to allow MALES into spaces designated for only females, largely to PROTECT us and keep us safe from being raped by MALES.

We also aren't trying to keep all trans people out of women's facilities. "Trans men" who are in reality FEMALE are perfectly welcome because they are WOMEN in spite of any feelings or delusions they may have.

I don't know whether you're being intentionally offensive or not in your claim that because women want to fend off even MORE rapes because we don't want to be forced to accommodate males and their personal delusions and sexual fantasies in our female-only facilities that we don't care about any other reported cases.
 
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Out of 15,000 K-high school sexual assaults a year, why is this one special? The fact that the assailant was charged and punished is in itself unusual. High schools traditionally don't handle sexual assaults well.

They didn't handle this one well either.
 
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Is it really that common? Percentage wise to the billions of women that exist.

The threat of it is common. We do many things in our day to day lives to take precautions that men rarely if ever even think about because it's unfortunately common enough.
 
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They didn't handle this one well either.
No, they did not, but that is sadly par for the course with school sexual assaults. However, I don't see that their respective gender identities had any bearing in this case.
 
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The threat of it is common. We do many things in our day to day lives to take precautions that men rarely if ever even think about because it's unfortunately common enough.
Trans-women also have to think about daily precautions as they are even more likely to be assaulted, whether sexually or just physically, than cis-women are.
 
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No, they did not, but that is sadly par for the course with school sexual assaults. However, I don't see that their respective gender identities had any bearing in this case.

Well that's the whole argument. No boys regardless of their self proclaimed gender identities need to be in girl's bathrooms or other facilities.

Trans-women also have to think about daily precautions as they are even more likely to be assaulted, whether sexually or just physically, than cis-women are.

That's the programming that the trans-radicals use to make us all believe that they are the most endangered and oppressed people on earth, and yet the assaults on them are miniscule compared to the hundreds of thousands of assaults on women each year. Not to mention that male on male violence in general is a thing.

I'm not suggesting that anybody should be assaulted but it is not an excuse to trample on women's rights and safety by putting males of ANY sort into women's facilities.
 
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Well that's the whole argument. No boys regardless of their self proclaimed gender identities need to be in girl's bathrooms or other facilities.
Obviously that is contrary to sad reality. Transwomen also need a safe place to pee. This particular case has nothing to do with that.

That's the programming that the trans-radicals use to make us all believe that they are the most endangered and oppressed people on earth, and yet the assaults on them are miniscule compared to the hundreds of thousands of assaults on women each year. Not to mention that male on male violence in general is a thing.
Well, the fact that it is statistically true lends weight to their perspective, I believe. And yes, male on male violence is a thing and male rape victims are stigmatized even more that female ones are. That does not make it okay to put transwomen in harm's way.

I'm not suggesting that anybody should be assaulted but it is not an excuse to trample on women's rights and safety by putting males of ANY sort into women's facilities.
Transwomen do not trample on women's rights or safety by peeing in the safety of the ladies' room.
 
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Obviously that is contrary to sad reality. Transwomen also need a safe place to pee. This particular case has nothing to do with that.

Yes, they do if they don't feel comfortable in the bathrooms that already designated to them by their biological sex (which is MALE). They can petition for their own bathroom rather than trampling the rights and safety of others.

Well, the fact that it is statistically true lends weight to their perspective, I believe. And yes, male on male violence is a thing and male rape victims are stigmatized even more that female ones are. That does not make it okay to put transwomen in harm's way.

Didn't say it was. It also doesn't make it okay to women in harm's way by changing laws to allow males in women's facilities.

Transwomen do not trample on women's rights or safety by peeing in the safety of the ladies' room.

Yes they do because they are not ladies. They are men. The only difference between them and other men is that transwomen insist on making themselves into a caricature of women.
 
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Yes, which is why they belong in their own facilities, with each other.

Are you suggesting socialization has nothing to do with it?
 
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Are you suggesting socialization has nothing to do with it?

Some behaviors are socially influenced but the basic biological reality of male and female is not. And boys have been fighting and beating each other up from the beginning of time, and largely for biological reasons based on how male mammals in general behave in nature. If a male mammal in the natural world is captured and made dependent and then later released, he has a much, much lower chance of survival and/or compete with other males for a mate. Humans like to think of ourselves as more "civilized" but even we are now seeing very serious consequences of socializing our own males into being weak, and now it's to the point that rather than being men, it seems they would much rather sit around moaning about how oppressed and victimized they are.
 
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Some behaviors are socially influenced but the basic biological reality of male and female is not.

just to be clear, is that "biological reality" determined by chromosomes, hormones, or whatever may or may not be dangling between their legs?
 
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just to be clear, is that "biological reality" determined by chromosomes, hormones, or whatever may or may not be dangling between their legs?

Well you know, two men get together and no matter how hard one of them thinks or believes he's a woman, they're not going to have any chance at all to produce a baby even if both of them are fertile to the hilt. If two women get together and no matter how hard one of them thinks or believes she's a man, they're not going to have even a chance at producing a baby regardless of their fertility.

A man mutilates his body to give himself a vagina and bigger breasts isn't going to change that reality. He's still not producing a baby and he's not going to be able to use his bigger breasts to nurse a baby no matter how strongly he wants to.

Even if his brain seems more similar to a female because they share many of the same interests or have learned to solve complex mathematical equations and theories, he's still not going be magically transformed into a female no matter what he thinks, how he thinks, or whatever hobbies he may pursue.

I could go on, but for the sake of brevity.

He is biologically a man and will always be biologically a man and it doesn't matter what he thinks or feels. There is no changing it. It is objective, not subjective. It doesn't matter how often trans-radicalism attempts to program and indoctrinate "transwomen are women" into people's minds, it is false and always will be false. A woman is an adult human female and is not a "social construct" as I saw someone falsely proclaim on YouTube just yesterday. In fact the very idea that a biological woman is merely a social construct is deeply offensive to all women everywhere. That what we are is defined by the subjective thoughts and feelings of men.

At best, transwomen are transwomen, but they will also always and in every case be men and not women.

Dave Chappelle was right on the mark when he said that men claiming to be women is equivalent to blackface for women, and perhaps even worse in a number of ways.

So I don't know what you're getting at with your question, though I suspect you're attempting to lead up to some sort of "ah hah" moment, but with the exception of the small number of people born with genetic defects giving them the anatomies of both sexes (which is not what most self-proclaimed transpeople are), our biologies as mammals are binary, male and female, and we cannot magically transform into the other whenever we "feel" like it, or when we want to impose ourselves on women without consent.
 
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Well you know, two men get together and no matter how hard one of them thinks or believes he's a woman, they're not going to have any chance at all to produce a baby even if both of them are fertile to the hilt. If two women get together and no matter how hard one of them thinks or believes she's a man, they're not going to have even a chance at producing a baby regardless of their fertility.

A man mutilates his body to give himself a vagina and bigger breasts isn't going to change that reality. He's still not producing a baby and he's not going to be able to use his bigger breasts to nurse a baby no matter how strongly he wants to.

Even if his brain seems more similar to a female because they share many of the same interests or have learned to solve complex mathematical equations and theories, he's still not going be magically transformed into a female no matter what he thinks, how he thinks, or whatever hobbies he may pursue.

I could go on, but for the sake of brevity.

He is biologically a man and will always be biologically a man and it doesn't matter what he thinks or feels. There is no changing it. It is objective, not subjective. It doesn't matter how often trans-radicalism attempts to program and indoctrinate "transwomen are women" into people's minds, it is false and always will be false. A woman is an adult human female and is not a "social construct" as I saw someone falsely proclaim on YouTube just yesterday. In fact the very idea that a biological woman is merely a social construct is deeply offensive to all women everywhere. That what we are is defined by the subjective thoughts and feelings of men.

At best, transwomen are transwomen, but they will also always and in every case be men and not women.

Dave Chappelle was right on the mark when he said that men claiming to be women is equivalent to blackface for women, and perhaps even worse in a number of ways.

So I don't know what you're getting at with your question, though I suspect you're attempting to lead up to some sort of "ah hah" moment, but with the exception of the small number of people born with genetic defects giving them the anatomies of both sexes (which is not what most self-proclaimed transpeople are), our biologies as mammals are binary, male and female, and we cannot magically transform into the other whenever we "feel" like it, or when we want to impose ourselves on women without consent.

That's nice. Anyway, is that "biological reality" determined by chromosomes, hormones, or whatever may or may not be dangling between their legs?
 
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That's nice. Anyway, is that "biological reality" determined by chromosomes, hormones, or whatever may or may not be dangling between their legs?

That's nice. Anyway, David Attenborough has some useful videos on the natural world that might be of interest to you.
 
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Clearly, conservatives have been waiting several years for this situation to happen in order to make a fuss, but the situation in the OP is not this exact situation. You'll have to keep waiting.
You're right. Its different because conservative at least expected a school leadership to support and protect the victim...not throw her father in handcuffs. I don't ever want to hear a progressive say, "Believe all women" ever again. They dont even seem to know what a woman is.
 
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That's nice. Anyway, David Attenborough has some useful videos on the natural world that might be of interest to you.

Which one answers my question?
 
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