Texas Abortion Law Survives Injunction

HARK! · Oct 16, 2021

Desk trauma said:
Per the post I was replying to there it would be to make all US law have to conform to the bible.

I'm all for it! Let's get an amendment ratified.

sovereigngrace · Oct 16, 2021

HARK! said:
To include an amendment for the individual right to murder?

Yes. Man's laws should never override God's laws. History has shown us: when they do it spells disaster.

Goonie · Oct 16, 2021

HARK! said:
That would violate the Constitution.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

And the supreme court ruled in the 1970s roe v wade case that abortion is a constitutional right, so whilst it is looking like they might change their mind over the next year, according to legal precedent if Texas can ban abortion using a deliberate work around the constitution then so can California use the same method to ban guns.

sovereigngrace · Oct 16, 2021

Pommer said:
Yes, your appeal to emotion has been noted.

Wrong! I do not trust my emotions or my opinions. My foundation is water-tight and unshakeable. It is Christ and His eternal Word. One day we will all account for who we are! Ignore God's Word at your peril.

Goonie · Oct 16, 2021

hedrick said:
I wonder if NJ would consider a law that allows you to sue anyone who owns a gun under the same kind of provisions. The biggest problem is that the law allows suits by a person who hasnt been damaged. That removes all limits on the use of suits.

Don't be silly if the Texas law has mentioned banning guns the supreme court would have stepped in with an injunction immediately. The US currently have a supreme court that is at risk of being in contempt of itself.

Desk trauma · Oct 16, 2021

HARK! said:
I'm all for it! Let's get an amendment ratified.

Go for it. I look forward to seeing your repeal the first amendment campaign in the future.

Desk trauma · Oct 16, 2021

sovereigngrace said:
Yes. Man's laws should never override God's laws. History has shown us: when they do it spells disaster.

I know, it has been all down hill from 1791.

HARK! · Oct 16, 2021

Goonie said:
And the supreme court ruled in the 1970s roe v wade case that abortion is a constitutional right, so whilst it is looking like they might change their mind over the next year, according to legal precedent if Texas can ban abortion using a deliberate work around the constitution then so can California use the same method to ban guns.

Unlike the 2nd Amendment, I don't see an amendment that allows murdering babies.

Desk trauma · Oct 16, 2021

HARK! said:
Unlike the 2nd Amendment, I don't see an amendment that allows murdering babies.

Vehemently opposed to Roe yet claiming ignorance of the rulings contents.

Goonie · Oct 16, 2021

HARK! said:
Unlike the 2nd Amendment, I don't see an amendment that allows murdering babies.

Any yet the supreme court for over 40 years has held that parts of the constitution protect the right to access abortion. And nobody is murdering babies.

HARK! · Oct 16, 2021

Goonie said:
Any yet the supreme court for over 40 years has held that parts of the constitution protect the right to access abortion. And nobody is murdering babies.

Which parts?

Desk trauma · Oct 16, 2021

HARK! said:
Which parts?

Here you go.

rambot · Oct 16, 2021

sovereigngrace said:
Let us just butcher innocent babies then! That is scandalous. That is wicked.

Instead of telling us about what other people should do, go adopt unwanted babies.

There are lots and there will be more

sovereigngrace · Oct 16, 2021

Desk trauma said:
I know, it has been all down hill from 1791.

I don't know who told you that, but they are wrong. With God it is always upward and onward. We are always victorious. And, by the way, we win. Righteousness will eventually prevail. I have read the end of the book. God laughs at the schemes of the wicked.

sovereigngrace · Oct 16, 2021

rambot said:
Instead of telling us about what other people should do, go adopt unwanted babies.

There are lots and there will be more

As a pastor located on an Indian reservation, we are planning a children's home for unwanted or abandoned children. Thanks for the encouragement.

Desk trauma · Oct 16, 2021

sovereigngrace said:
I don't know who told you that, but they are wrong.

12/15/1791, a date which should live in infamy for the ratification of that wretched god defying first amendment that over rides gods laws.

rambot · Oct 16, 2021

HARK! said:
Before you attempt to make an argument form ignorance; you might want to at least go back and reread the OP to get some kind of idea of what we are even talking about.

Here, I'll help you find your way.

Thanks for the clarity. Maybe you should go back to the original question asked which was whether the man could be sued. Your quote says the mother can't be sued but doesn't mention the father.

Don't be condescending unless you got back up.

HARK! · Oct 16, 2021

Desk trauma said:
Here you go.

That's not the Constitution. Can you point to where specifically in the Federal governments limited and enumerated powers, outlined in the Constitution, where the People and the States have ceded authority to the Feds on how they can remedy murder.

Saying "it's in there" doesn't cut it.

hedrick · Oct 16, 2021

HARK! said:
That would violate the Constitution.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

But it’s not making it illegal. That was one point if the Texas law, to skip the issue of Rowe v Wade. Personally I think this Supreme Court cares about some rights than others, so it’s hard to predict where this is going to go. But it’s a terrible approach.

rambot · Oct 16, 2021

sovereigngrace said:
As a pastor located on an Indian reservation, we are planning a children's home for unwanted or abandoned children. Thanks for the encouragement.

Great. So I imagine you are going to be caring for all these kids personally or paying others to do so?

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