Chinese Manufacturing Consent for War with the US

War may be on the horizon. It is best not to kick the can so far down the road that the U.S.A. suffers the most damage. We still have the advantage and as a saying goes; 'Strike while the Iron is hot.'
Our leaders will know when the time is right if the Chinese do not back off.

CatsRule2020 said:

Our leaders will know when the time is right if the Chinese do not back off.

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Given the debacle withdrawal from Afghanistan, can we be sure bout this?

Carl Emerson said:

Given the debacle withdrawal from Afghanistan, can we be sure bout this?

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"Now you guys stop that. It isn't nice! Let's talk."

I have never had less faith in an administration and I'm Canadian...

We have no chance with war vs China. We won World War II because of our manufacturing capabilities but it’s been eroded away. Europe is completely dependent on the United States. It was difficult enough to win a war with China because of their population but now that they have these advancements in technology it’s next to possible. Not to mention the fact that Russia would join their side

China has nothing to fear from the United States. They own the most US treasuries they manufacture most of our goods, the idea that we could go to war with them and win is hard to envision.

Just doesn’t even discuss the fact that RuSsia would support China. I don’t think people realize how precarious the United States position is.

The prophets Daniel and John realized it when they said that 4 world super powers would arise near the end each with it's own signature but all of them a beast in thier own right.
Christ proclaimed wars and rumors of more and pestilence and pandemic. Cataclysmic behavior of nature and the entire planet trembling as a woman in labor.
This is as before. No thing is new happening under the sun. Just as it were before Noah entered the ark, scoffers and deniers and the rest living life as if they are not dead in thier transgression and apostasy.

ElihishuaibnDabitbarAbbas said:

The prophets Daniel and John realized it when they said that 4 world super powers would arise near the end each with it's own signature but all of them a beast in thier own right.
Christ proclaimed wars and rumors of more and pestilence and pandemic. Cataclysmic behavior of nature and the entire planet trembling as a woman in labor.
This is as before. No thing is new happening under the sun. Just as it were before Noah entered the ark, scoffers and deniers and the rest living life as if they are not dead in thier transgression and apostasy.

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China
Russia
US

who is the 4th? Not North Korea they are dependent on China.

maybe Germany in Europe but they have no army.

Pavel Mosko said:

I began watching a video from a Video Blogger I've watched a bit in the past. He lived in Communist China for a decade before he needed to leave the country for Taiwan because the state didn't like his videos (Which were mostly positive towards China but also honest).

I began watching his video "Breaking - Did China just Declare WAR?", and was going to post a link, but there was a curse word. But here is the video synopsis introduction.

"Chinese State Media has just released a document that states the USA is engaging in biological warfare and other transgressions against China, is this a declaration of War? Here's the Communist State Media document: http://www.news.cn/politics/2021-08/2... For a deeper dive into China's Propaganda influence and soft power, watch our liveshow ADVPodcasts: https://www.youtube.com/advpodcasts"


I kind of think the Chinese are laying the groundwork for going after Taiwan because they think Biden is weak and won't defend it. But they have to prepare the public for a more controversial stance that may lead to war with the US.
But before that happens it looks like China will ratchet up it's bullying tactics towards Taiwan and see if the US does anything to intervene.

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Okay lets be real in conventional war yeah the advantage is in china's favor. Reality Nuclear Weapons and MAD...Mutually Assured Destruction. Everyone pokes at each other but know one will push the limit on it...because that war...everyone loses. China is not the middle east...the middle east does not care about destroying the world...Russia and China do.

Jeff11 said:

China
Russia
US

who is the 4th? Not North Korea they are dependent on China.

maybe Germany in Europe but they have no army.

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Hint
Spotted line leopard.( Multicultural) incredibly segregated nation. Blacks and browns crammed into ghettos tenement buildings etc. Surrounded by Caucasian folks spread out in the burbs and rural farm towns.
This leopard like beast has strength of the bear in it's claws.
It speaks with the lion's voice and has the same boastful arrogance about it. As if the others are less or beneath it.
But it is funded by the dragon, which loans trillions upon trillions to it bwo trade deficit and the beast doesn't even really realize that should the dragon call in the debt or slow the shipping of cheap goods, it's economy would go into arrest. Prices would soar and consumption grind to a halt as a tv would go from $279 on sale, to $27,900 and silverware appliances Tupperware tools equipment sporting goods cosmetics and even our dumb smartphones would become so drastically inflated, the retail industry would die a Mystery Babylon like death.



So, to answer your question.... The mouth of the lion is the King's English.
America is the spotted nation, which has strength like the bear (Russia) speaks English and sells 90% or something of its treasuries to the dragon which is China.
If anyone has ears to hear, listen.
Whose face adorns legal tender. It is the face of famous US Patriots and diplomats. So render render to the United States your taxes since that money will not follow you into the kingdom.
Whose face is stamped on all of creation. Who's Mark is upon the seas upon the land upon the mountains and upon the sky upon the planets and the solar systems and the galaxies upon galaxies through the farthest reaches of space. who has touched all of these. Render on to God your father those things which are his. He gives us bread to eat render it back to him he gives us water to drink render it back to him he gives us comfort and warmth so render that back to him he nurtures us and cares for us because we are the sons of God and we are the sons of man.
Now if any man says to you that the mark of the beast it's not a literal physical mark know this. The Lord your God, has no need to count how much money you have in the bank. What type of credit you have. He doesn't care where you work or how well you pay your bills in as much as you're not harming your neighbor by not taking care of your responsibilities. If we lend money to a neighbor we shouldn't expect repayment but if we borrow money from our neighbor we should count ourselves as a thief if we do not intend to pay it back. However your father in Heaven has no use for dollars and cents. Therefore is Mark is placed in our hearts and our minds and on our hands so that we might think as he inspires us to think so that we might think as the holy spirit inside of us inspires us to think. So that our hearts might feel for our neighbors empathy as our father feels for us having watched Christ his son suffer at the hands of men. Love your neighbor. And so that our hands might do those works that the holy spirit inside of us inspires us to do to show our love and compassion for our neighbor to be that Samaritan, to be that woman at the well, to be that widow who gave her last pence. To be the Son that we are, Christ!
If we know ourselves then we can know who our enemy is if we love our enemy and have compassion on our enemies then we can love ourselves and be compassionate even to ourself.

The four beasts are in place. The mark of the beasts is in place. this Mark this Mark does not show the face of a human nor does it show the mark of the Lord God Almighty but rather it is a series of numbers generally stamped onto a card increasingly often chipped into a telephone and soon though not necessary, chipped into our hands or our foreheads. Copying and imitating but in no way reproducing the mark of our father on those who are Christ. Sadly so narrow is the way.
May the holy spirit that dwells within us open our eyes and our ears. Let him soften our touch and hands are smell and our taste and give us foresight to discern who we are what we are and why we are. LIGHT

Pavel Mosko said:

I began watching a video from a Video Blogger I've watched a bit in the past. He lived in Communist China for a decade before he needed to leave the country for Taiwan because the state didn't like his videos (Which were mostly positive towards China but also honest).

I began watching his video "Breaking - Did China just Declare WAR?", and was going to post a link, but there was a curse word. But here is the video synopsis introduction.

"Chinese State Media has just released a document that states the USA is engaging in biological warfare and other transgressions against China, is this a declaration of War? Here's the Communist State Media document: http://www.news.cn/politics/2021-08/2... For a deeper dive into China's Propaganda influence and soft power, watch our liveshow ADVPodcasts: https://www.youtube.com/advpodcasts"


I kind of think the Chinese are laying the groundwork for going after Taiwan because they think Biden is weak and won't defend it. But they have to prepare the public for a more controversial stance that may lead to war with the US.
But before that happens it looks like China will ratchet up it's bullying tactics towards Taiwan and see if the US does anything to intervene.

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Why should or would the US defend Taiwan against anyone?

ArmenianJohn said:

Why should or would the US defend Taiwan against anyone?

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People are sympathetic to a country that was or enjoyed a large amount of personal freedom being forced to live under communist regime. Particularly one that tortures people who speak out against the government.

ElihishuaibnDabitbarAbbas said:

Hint
Spotted line leopard.( Multicultural) incredibly segregated nation. Blacks and browns crammed into ghettos tenement buildings etc. Surrounded by Caucasian folks spread out in the burbs and rural farm towns.
This leopard like beast has strength of the bear in it's claws.
It speaks with the lion's voice and has the same boastful arrogance about it. As if the others are less or beneath it.
But it is funded by the dragon, which loans trillions upon trillions to it bwo trade deficit and the beast doesn't even really realize that should the dragon call in the debt or slow the shipping of cheap goods, it's economy would go into arrest. Prices would soar and consumption grind to a halt as a tv would go from $279 on sale, to $27,900 and silverware appliances Tupperware tools equipment sporting goods cosmetics and even our dumb smartphones would become so drastically inflated, the retail industry would die a Mystery Babylon like death.



So, to answer your question.... The mouth of the lion is the King's English.
America is the spotted nation, which has strength like the bear (Russia) speaks English and sells 90% or something of its treasuries to the dragon which is China.
If anyone has ears to hear, listen.
Whose face adorns legal tender. It is the face of famous US Patriots and diplomats. So render render to the United States your taxes since that money will not follow you into the kingdom.
Whose face is stamped on all of creation. Who's Mark is upon the seas upon the land upon the mountains and upon the sky upon the planets and the solar systems and the galaxies upon galaxies through the farthest reaches of space. who has touched all of these. Render on to God your father those things which are his. He gives us bread to eat render it back to him he gives us water to drink render it back to him he gives us comfort and warmth so render that back to him he nurtures us and cares for us because we are the sons of God and we are the sons of man.
Now if any man says to you that the mark of the beast it's not a literal physical mark know this. The Lord your God, has no need to count how much money you have in the bank. What type of credit you have. He doesn't care where you work or how well you pay your bills in as much as you're not harming your neighbor by not taking care of your responsibilities. If we lend money to a neighbor we shouldn't expect repayment but if we borrow money from our neighbor we should count ourselves as a thief if we do not intend to pay it back. However your father in Heaven has no use for dollars and cents. Therefore is Mark is placed in our hearts and our minds and on our hands so that we might think as he inspires us to think so that we might think as the holy spirit inside of us inspires us to think. So that our hearts might feel for our neighbors empathy as our father feels for us having watched Christ his son suffer at the hands of men. Love your neighbor. And so that our hands might do those works that the holy spirit inside of us inspires us to do to show our love and compassion for our neighbor to be that Samaritan, to be that woman at the well, to be that widow who gave her last pence. To be the Son that we are, Christ!
If we know ourselves then we can know who our enemy is if we love our enemy and have compassion on our enemies then we can love ourselves and be compassionate even to ourself.

The four beasts are in place. The mark of the beasts is in place. this Mark this Mark does not show the face of a human nor does it show the mark of the Lord God Almighty but rather it is a series of numbers generally stamped onto a card increasingly often chipped into a telephone and soon though not necessary, chipped into our hands or our foreheads. Copying and imitating but in no way reproducing the mark of our father on those who are Christ. Sadly so narrow is the way.
May the holy spirit that dwells within us open our eyes and our ears. Let him soften our touch and hands are smell and our taste and give us foresight to discern who we are what we are and why we are. LIGHT

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Sorry England’s not really a world power in my book. Instead of spending money on defense they basically spent all their money on entitlement type of programs for their citizens. They become a Weak country as a result. Militarily they are not a threat to anyone like China or Russia.

Pavel Mosko said:

They do have nukes and the ability to deliver them. If Taiwan had that there would be little worry that they would be invaded.

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That’s probably true but even with nuclear weapons most war scenarios with China show China wins because of the huge population advantage

Pavel Mosko said:

1) Well Biden actually said we would only to have Blinken walk it back hours later.


2) The US defended Korea, and generally resisted Communist Expansion. The only difference here is that this Island has been part of China in the past, but this island has represented the freely elected Chinese government for decades, and has preserved China's culture and historic artifacts from the Cultural Revolution.


3) To resist Chinese expansion into the Pacific Ocean and making the Pacific Ocean part of it's claimed territory (which it has been already slowly doing in the South China Sea).


4) To also help our other allies like Japan, Australia, the Philippines etc. that likewise will be hurt from the Chinese domination of the Pacific Ocean.

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So what I am getting from all this is that you believe we and our tax money should be the world's policeman.

Well, I might buy that, except we don't act as one other times, so why now? Why did we not police Ukraine and Crimea? Why did we not police Hong Kong where we have massive economic interests (and which was also Communist China)?

If our allies like Japan and Austalia want to police their corner of the world then great, let them. I'm even for helping them. But it's not our job to spend my money on policing one particular situation just because some American conservatives want to (while they ignore other policing situations at their convenience). I'm not happy with the US's role as world policeman because we never seem to police for what is right morally but rather what is for might economically. Hence being on the wrong side of Syria, for example.

I can see why Biden wants to police Taiwan - he is a conservative, he is part of that mindset. He's wrong and I'm glad to hear someone walked it back. Taiwan can handle themselves and they have other friends in that area. If those friends don't care in their own area then why should we?

Jeff11 said:

People are sympathetic to a country that was or enjoyed a large amount of personal freedom being forced to live under communist regime. Particularly one that tortures people who speak out against the government.

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People are very selectively sympathetic.