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In Galatians 5:22-23, Paul lists the famous "Fruits of The Spirit".

Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control are straight forward concepts that even children can easily understand, yet there is deep personal meaning and blessings found in everyone of them! As far as I've ever encountered, there is not much controversy surrounding this passage. But I did have one question about the two of the fruits that I have never pondered before now. What is the difference between kindness and goodness?

Not just generally, but what they mean in this specific context. Those words in the minds of people today seem like very similar concepts, that are almost virtually interchangeable. But I would think Paul would not use those words if they were the same. I would believe that Paul used those two words to convey a different meaning even if they are similar.

To be kind is a good thing, and to be a good person definitely involves a strong sense of kindness. But for as much as they are similar, some things do stand out about their differences. For instance, one might say it is good to give someone tough love, and discipline in the right context, but might not call it kind. Also, some acts done in ignorance and well intention might be called kind, even if they did not do the good thing.

A quick look into the Greek words Paul used (I am no expert on Greek at all) does not reveal anything to me. Strong's Concordance defines the word kindness in the verse as, " goodness, excellence, uprightness" and the word goodness as, "to do good". This only makes them seem even more similar.

My opinion right now, is that Paul is using kindness as doing good, and goodness as being good. Still quite similar, but if there was a difference in Paul's mind, this seems to be it.

I have a few questions that would be great if someone were to answer them.

What do you think Paul might have meant by these words and what differences would their definitions have?

What meanings could Paul be emphasizing by using both of these words?

Thank you to anyone who takes the time to discuss this with me. I am working through this passage as a way to pray for other people, and got stuck on this question.

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My opinion right now, is that Paul is using kindness as doing good, and goodness as being good. Still quite similar, but if there was a difference in Paul's mind, this seems to be it.

I think this is close to the mark. I see Kindness as an external trait, that is manifest in your interaction with others, whereas Goodness is an internal state of being and has to do with character.
 
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My opinion right now, is that Paul is using kindness as doing good, and goodness as being good.

I think this is right. Kindness is other person oriented; whereas, goodness is overall moral excellence. A good person can be good without actually doing anything (disposition of the heart, perhaps), but kindness depends on a recipient. The way you put it sounds right. But they are very close, even in the Greek.
 
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My opinion - - knowing there are various ways of understanding this scripture >

In translations I know of it says "fruit" . . . not "fruits". I consider it can be like an apple. The apple is the fruit, and the character of the apple includes crispy, juicy, sweet, nice flavor, nutritious, nice-smelling.

Like this > God's love maturing in us is . . . loving, joyful, peaceful, patient, kind, good, faithful, gentle, self-controlled. I see how the list gives things of the one character of God's love. And this list fits with the description James gives of wisdom >

"first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy." (in James 3:17)

In Paul's list I note there are three sets of three items > maybe like the Trinity with Their three Persons >

Father . love
Jesus . joy that remains in us
Holy Spirit . peace

Father . patient
Jesus . kind by coming and suffering and dying for us
Holy Spirit . goodness of love living in us (Romans 5:5)

Father . faithful
Jesus . gentle > "gentle and lowly in heart" (in Matthew 11:28-30)
Holy Spirit . self control so we have a spirit of "a sound mind" > 2 Timothy 1:7

So . . . about the being kind and good >

In an apple, the goodness is how the apple is nutritious.

The kindness is how the nice fragrance effects others nicely.

It's all about the character of God's love growing in a person. But, of course, actions come from the character.

"Let all that you do be done with love." (1 Corinthians 16:14)

And the list in Galatians is also comparable with Paul's description of love, in 1 Corinthians 13.
 
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