Here are quotes:
"After you gain my kids trust you can start gaining the other kids."
"I’ve told you before, in order to gain the trust you have to show up for all church events."
"Tonight we just got invited to a kids event and one of our church kids is involved in. If you want to go I’ll pick you, and I’m not telling you what it is until your in the van and we’re rolling."
What do you make of those comments. The pastor tries to force John (John so as to avoid using I or me multiple times) to get their kids to trust John or else the other kids in the church will never trust John. By the way this pastor controls the others kids in the church through manipulation and actual lies about John since the pastor takes advantage of those parents who have limited levels of English. The pastor uses language to influence the very vulnerable parents and those parents will believe everything the pastor tells them and they will answer any questions the parents are asked. Pastor idea was to force John to get in their vehicle and doors locked and wheels rolling before they reveal the destination. It was to be a 4.5 hour trip with about 40 minutes ride time to and from. We think once in the locked and moving car that their kids will follow a prompted script for the kids to talk to John. Likely staged with pre-planned interactions between their kids and John to start a long process (which actually does not have a definitive positive ending) for John to gain trust of the pastors kids. John was not told where the vehicle was going or why. In the locked and moving the ride time would have been an hour of trapped in the vehicle where the pastor and his kids basically control things. As far as evey events, I don't have the quote handy but I do have it and they said John would need to attend all Sunday services and other church events for 2-3 years to gain trust. Puppet master, power, control, authority, ego and culture come to mind when we hear these things in total dismay and sadness as they try to destroy John. Another quote not posted was "accept my plan of salvation for you or you will never have anything you want in the future." John is a Christian. If anyone would desire a private conversation I can give you more than above. We learned early on to always be able to confirm and verify everything you say. I can.
Thanks.
"After you gain my kids trust you can start gaining the other kids."
"I’ve told you before, in order to gain the trust you have to show up for all church events."
"Tonight we just got invited to a kids event and one of our church kids is involved in. If you want to go I’ll pick you, and I’m not telling you what it is until your in the van and we’re rolling."
What do you make of those comments. The pastor tries to force John (John so as to avoid using I or me multiple times) to get their kids to trust John or else the other kids in the church will never trust John. By the way this pastor controls the others kids in the church through manipulation and actual lies about John since the pastor takes advantage of those parents who have limited levels of English. The pastor uses language to influence the very vulnerable parents and those parents will believe everything the pastor tells them and they will answer any questions the parents are asked. Pastor idea was to force John to get in their vehicle and doors locked and wheels rolling before they reveal the destination. It was to be a 4.5 hour trip with about 40 minutes ride time to and from. We think once in the locked and moving car that their kids will follow a prompted script for the kids to talk to John. Likely staged with pre-planned interactions between their kids and John to start a long process (which actually does not have a definitive positive ending) for John to gain trust of the pastors kids. John was not told where the vehicle was going or why. In the locked and moving the ride time would have been an hour of trapped in the vehicle where the pastor and his kids basically control things. As far as evey events, I don't have the quote handy but I do have it and they said John would need to attend all Sunday services and other church events for 2-3 years to gain trust. Puppet master, power, control, authority, ego and culture come to mind when we hear these things in total dismay and sadness as they try to destroy John. Another quote not posted was "accept my plan of salvation for you or you will never have anything you want in the future." John is a Christian. If anyone would desire a private conversation I can give you more than above. We learned early on to always be able to confirm and verify everything you say. I can.
Thanks.
